So, guys, in Remus' book of Ignoring for Dummies there is this bit of text that says: "Are nerds in blue ties bothering you?"
It could be nothing, but that phrasing is bothering me.
Why in blue ties?
Like, no one else wears a tie. Nerd in a tie would suffice. But they still felt the need to point out the colour of the tie.
So, either the orange side just so happens to wear an orange tie just like Logan's and is also a nerd, or Logan is going to become the nerd in an orange tie.
Also, here I am looking too much into things, for sure, but:
You see how Remus is sitting in front of two pieces of clothing? One orange, the other dark blue?
And you may say, okay, but it may not be dark blue exactly. That's why I did some colour picking. You see, the dark blue, I'm assuming, shirt reads at the lower parts of the orange hue, but, the colour editing for this frame is warm tinted. That's why I isolated the colours and took samples of black and grey coloured items in the shot to show it is dark blue.
And, yeah, as you can see it is dark blue.
You can think it's a coincidence that Remus happens to be sitting behind that, but, taking into account that the team had to place the things there on purpose, I think it might be intentional, at the very least the orange garment is.
After Logan's eyes switch to orange, he looks very confused. I see people pointed out how that can indicate he's not the Orange Side, given that if he'd done it he'd be aware of it. I think if it's the first time that happens to him it would confuse him, so that would explain it.
If anything, one can argue that Logan is not the Orange Side because in SvSR there is one character from the Dark Sides that isn't unlocked yet and Logan appears on the Light Side team, albeit in grey, signalling he's inactive. If they were the same person then it wouldn't make sense to put them in separate places.
But in that same video, there are actually more instances where the orange and the dark blue are placed right next to each other.
Here the 07734 that everybody pointed out was related to the orange side has dark blue as its shadow.
And if the Orange Side is Wrath or something similar, it does make sense for that number to be related to him, given that Thomas is in a fighting simulator:
Also, if the Orange Side isn't Logan then it stands to reason that Remus and Janus would know him, given how they're all dark sides.
But if that's the case, then why are both Janus and Remus trying to egg Logan on? If the Orange Side manifests when intense anger happens, why not provoke everyone? And why would Remus and Janus try to cause people to get angry? Can't the Orange Side do it himself?
Every side has a series of abilities or areas, if the Orange Side is separate from Logan, Remus wouldn't need to be pissing him off on purpose, the orange side could easily use his power on Logan without any help.
And, let's not forget that Janus is concerned about Thomas' mental health. It wouldn't make sense for him to not let the Orange Side to the surface but still want it to affect Logan, as he's been trying to do.
During many of the videos, Janus has specifically targeted Logan, making him feel even more ignored. He made him shut up in Can Lying be Good?, he tried to avoid him in SVS, sending him to the bench once he appeared, in SVSR he got rid of him and then pretended to be him...
If they're both trying to help the Orange Side or have some kind of scheme going on, why wouldn't they just let the Orange Side go and mess with Logan instead of pissing him off?
If the Orange Side is Wrath, Logan would already be the most vulnerable to him, given that he has a really short temper. So it wouldn't be necessary for Remus and Janus to do anything, the Orange Side would have an easy time getting to him.
Unless they're both trying to get Logan on their side making him a Dark Side. Which would actually make a lot of sense.
Janus and Remus are the most vulnerable to Logan. He can use his abilities (reasoning) to show that the way they are presenting reality is incorrect. Making both Janus and Remus' jobs way harder.
If Logan turns into a Dark Side, then he could work with them and be less of a problem.
I don't think this is even out of character for them.
Logan has been feeling like crap lately. He's been getting ignored for forever. And Janus "I'm going to let Remus lose to prove a point and because I'm done with all of you" Sanders, sounds like the kind of person who would be in favour of letting things get slightly out of hand to prove a point. So I don't think it would be against his purpose to want Logan to "go orange". It would certainly allow Logan to make himself be heard, which might be good for Thomas, and would get Logan off his throat.
For Remus, though, when Logan screamed "Stop ignoring me" he was like "you're finally speaking my language". It doesn't look like he'd hate for Logan to be on his side.
And I don't mean to make Janus and Remus seem bad or anything, I think, from their point of view, this is for the best.
All of that being said, Logan may turn into the Orange Side, maybe the Orange Side is not Logan.
There are very good theories that completely disagree with what I've just said, and I think they're just as good. So no hate to the people against the Orange!Logan theory, it's super valid not to believe it.
In the end, I think whatever we get will be pretty cool.
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After Remus sings all by myself, when he changes the lyrics he says something along the lines of "you're not going to be able to change this guy all by yourself".
What is he implying?
I think it doesn't necessarily refer to the orange side having to take control of Logan in order for him to be able to have an effect on Thomas.
It can also be interpreted as Remus saying "join us because the way you're doing things is not working".
And that's not all, if I remember correctly, Janus said something like "things are about to change" implying that he knows more about the situation and that he's planning something.
Seeing how Janus and Remus have been purposefully making Logan feel put to the side and ignored, maybe their goal was to get him to the point where he'll actually considered needing their help. That is, switching sides.
And it does make a lot of sense when you think about it. Janus is completely fed up with everything that's been going on, Logan wasn't the only one getting ignored, this happened too to Janus.
What did Janus have to do to change that? Let Remus roam free and allow the situation to get to an almost critical point, because he knew that then he'll have a chance to be listened to.
It's also been established that Janus does care about the way things turn out for Thomas, obviously. And at the very moment they're not going well, precisely because he's not listening to Logan.
There's also the factor, and this I have mentioned in previous theories, that Janus and Remus are very vulnerable to Logan's influence. But that's only because they're working against each other.
And you might say, "but Janus has been trying to push Logan away because he keeps tripping him up".
And you'd be very correct in pointing that out.
But I think that changed after the moment when in You vs Yourself Logan took Janus's side. At that very moment Janus's point started to get validated and listened to.
I don't have the screenshot right now, but he did look surprised to hear Logan backing him up. And at the moment I interpreted that as him not expecting what happened. But now it can be read as that, plus, him getting an idea.
Janus is prioritizing Thomas's mental health. Having a dumpster of an apartment is probably not the best way to keep your mental health going. Not only that, but schedules and routines are also key when it comes to mental health. And who deals with that?
Given that, I don't think that, even if Logan's collaboration wasn't useful for whatever Janus is planning, he would view him as an enemy.
Janus knows perfectly well that he needs Logan's support, he just didn't know how to get it before. But now he's seen that it's possible, just not with the current circumstances. Unless Logan finally snaps.
If I recall correctly, there's one video in which Janus says that Logan has reached his limit of listening to people, that was to taunt him, but it also shows an understanding of Logan's character and his short temper.
So, perhaps, the Orange Side is what happens when Logan actually reaches his limit of listening to people.
And the worst part is that we've seen that when it gets to that, when Logan gets actually mad and makes himself be listened to, he actually is successful.
Now, when it comes to Remus, I think that it's more like he wants to get listened to but he doesn't. I think there's an element of pettiness to his attitude towards Logan, but it wasn't initially there.
During "Dealing with Intrusive Thoughts" he wasn't specifically talking to Logan, he was trying to bother everyone, generally speaking. It's now that Remus is trying to get to Logan. There we have the pettiness I was talking about, part of this is him trying to get the upper hand, trying to get a revenge of sorts.
But I also think that is some amount of recognition in this, because it takes one person who gets constantly ignored to know another one.
It's almost as if he's calling him out on being a hypocrite. Because isn't that what Remus actually does all the time? Yes, he's annoying and says all sorts of messed up stuff, but he is really observant and good at pointing things out, not very pleasant things that are out there and that do exist and that need to be paid attention to.
He did say it that there's all sorts of things that people would rather not see nor experience but they do see and experience anyway. Maybe, as a side, part of his function is having some insight into that.
So he sees Logan and knows that he's failing miserably to do the things that he wants to do, he's angry at him because he contributed to him getting even more ignored, he knows Logan is really angry, and he knows that he might have a chance if they work together, and then he will no longer be getting in his way he will actually help.
And right then when Remus is ignoring him to taunt him, Logan actually opens up to the possibility of Remus having more of a purpose.
So it makes sense for Remus to say that he can't get Thomas to listen all by himself.
For that, he needs to speak Remus' language, and when Logan did that, look what happened to his eyes.
Hi, this isn't sides-related, I just wanted to say I've just watched Encanto, and, if you allow me this pun:
Hola, me ha encantado Encanto :)
Por cierto, hola a mis seguidores hispanohablantes. Encanto am I right? De verdad creo que Disney se ha lucido con esta nueva pelicula, me ha recordado mucho a otras de mis favoritas como Lilo y Stitch, tengo una amiga que dice que no salia asi de emocionada del cine desde que vio Enredados.
(Translation:
Hi, I've loved Encanto :) (note: this pun doesn't translate well into English)
By the way, hi to my Spanish-speaking followers. Encanto am I right? For real I think Disney has outdone itself with this new film, it has reminded me a lot of other of my favourites like Lilo and Stitch, I have a friend who says that she didn't come out of the cinema this excited since she watched Tangled.)
I get that there are people who headcanon Logan as having ADHD and I won't criticize that, because I get that it can bring comfort to people just as my own headcanons about him do, it always surprised me.
The thing is, I've always headcanonned him as autistic. I don't know, it just makes sense, like, he gives me that vibe. Is it because I'm also autistic and I relate to Logan a lot? Probably, but it's why I find it so curious when I see people be like: Logan? Oh, yes, ADHD.
I know that autism and ADHD share certain traits so I guess it makes sense, maybe my knowledge of ADHD isn't as deep as I thought. I don't know, I've always headcanonned Roman or Remus as having ADHD rather than Logan. Not to say that people with ADHD have to adhere to the stereotype of being very hyper like Roman and Remus are, it varies so much from person to person. Logan's intense focus on subjects that interest him could very well be interpreted as hyperfocus in ADHD. But, his trouble to understand social rules, being so literal and many more other things have always made me go: huh, ASD. You know?
I'm not trying to make a point at all /l
I think it's cool that people see him having ADHD, I can get why. I just wanted to ramble about it I guess.
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Stay the fuck off my computer and my Microsoft word and get your ideas elsewhere!
Sorry, I don't know what you're referring to, nor understand in which tone you're saying it /li. My ideas come from my brain and I don't have any any hacking skills that I know of π
If I ever post something based off of someone's idea you will find I always credit them. If you find any of my posts hold any resemblance to something of yours it is purely coincidental, otherwise I would have credited it.
