#debate summary

Watching the debate. I’m not really political but...

I’m sorry for insults. I’m just reporting.

I don’t know what’s going on, but Hillary’s dishing out a lot passive aggressive things.

So far, Hillary’s quoted Trump, and he said he’s never said that. 

Trump didn’t listen to the guy giving a debate.

Trump lied about his tax returns. He can actually release them

He’s talking about his money. “Everyone’s doing bad (economy wise)” Then he talks about his money.

Trump gets audited every year, apparently.

Hillary did release her emails. What she did wasn’t illegal it was just poorly done. She admitted it was a mistake. Trump said it was done purposely. Watch John Oliver, it was done on a mistake, just poorly.

Hillary’s smiling the whole time and being very passive aggressive. It’s kind of funny, kind of cool, kind of rude, but understandable all the same.

I got lost in the middle... I heard something about the middle east, and then Trump blamed Hillary for all of America’s money problems.

Hillary comes back with a sick burn. 

Talking about Trump’s business. It sounds like he was rude and cut people on money they deserved. I’m going to fact check myself.

Everything comes out pretty clear so far.  Apparently Trump’s been bankrupt 6 times. 

Okay apparently it’s a good company. And talked about laws I don’t know, and dodged the question on not paying them. He’s adding businesses, and stuff. Talking about saving money. That’s what he and Hillary have been talking about most of the time.

New Topic: Race. 

I like how clear Hillary’s part is. It’s seems like things have cooled down. She mentioned cooling the problem of gun violence.

Trump is talking about law and order, and all I can think about is the title of the t.v. show. He brought up Hispanics. It sounded like he was blaming Obama. Stop and frisk doesn’t work, unlike he said. Most of it was okay.

Stop and Frisk does focus mostly on blacks and Hispanics. I’m fact checking. I’m against Stop and frisk look it up. Sorry, if you agree with it. 

Hillary’s taking the topic off of gun violence to talk about the rich black culture, and then she came back to violent crime. 

Crime is down 40%. That’s true. I’m fact checking.

Terrorists can still by guns in this country. Hillary wants to stop that.

Okay Trump agrees with people on the watch list don’t get guns, also still believes in stop and frisk. 

Murders have dropped, Trump says the haven’t. They actually have.

More passive aggressive statements.

Obama isn’t from Kenya and never was. Trump talks about admitting trying to get the birth certificate, and things. Trump knew this, but continued to say things against Obama’s birth. 

Passive aggressive. Trump was sued for not selling homes to black people. That’s true.

Apparently you have to be nice while debating with each other for president, because Trump is amazed that Hillary and Obama can be good friends.

New Segment: Securing America 

Stuff about Cyber attacks, and hating on Russia, but let’s be honest, it’s Russia. Hillary blames Trump for praising Putin, which he has. Sadly, that’s true.

Trump invited the Russians to hack the U.S.A. may or may not be a joke, theirs proof for and against that statement.

The Russians did break into the DNC, that is true. Fact checked and all.

ISIS is using the internet to recruit, this is a problem.

Hillary has a plan to defeat ISIS. I think Trump said he did too, but you can check her website. Even if they saw it they wouldn’t really get much information from it. They both agree they have to defeat ISIS.

They both don’t have a clear way of how to get rid of ISIS. To be fair, it is a complicated problem.

I’m lost. ISIS is a confusing topic. Stuff about NATO. I can’t say what the believe about ISIS. It’s a confusing topic, that neither can really answer. They’re both trying though.

Trump supported the war in Iraq, say he wasn’t, or was. Going into this was people voted for it, because they where lied too. Hillary voted to go into the war, because Bush lied, so nothing can be told about either of them from this.

Both are insulting each other.

Both believe Nuclear weapons are a threat. 

Trump says, nuclear was is the single greatest threat this country has.

We are keeping up with technological problems.

Trump believes China should go into war with North Korea, China trades with North Korea, so they won’t do that.

Hillary believes we should honor our defense treaties. Seems legitimate.

There is a uranium deal or something, with Iran, that politicians  agreed on. Trump disagrees with it, Hillary agrees. It’s beneficial with America. That’s all I know.

I don’t think Trump likes Hillary’s plan for ISIS.

I feel bad for the guy asking the questions. Both of them don’t listen to him, when he says things. I feel bad for him.

Hillary doesn’t have the stamina, apparently. I don’t know what that means.

She comes back with more passive aggressive statements.

The agreements Hillary has helped make where pretty good, some where bad, but not a lot.

He’s made many jokes about women, and denies them all. All the quotes about women Hillary mentioned  are true quotes. 

Closing Question

Hillary says she will support the outcome of this election no matter what. It was in a passive aggressive prideful way, but it was still legit. I don’t think if Trump wins she’d be supportive.

Trump will support Hillary  if she wins. I don’t know if that’st true or not.

This was made for everyone who missed the debate, and for people who are registering to vote to get and idea of what they want to vote for. This is my contribution to America. Please vote. I don’t make many political posts, but I think this one was important. Sorry for grammar errors.

Of course the debate had to kick off with introductions. Like we had no clue who these people on stage were or why they were there...

My first thought: I cannot believe anyone but Huntsman has a serious chance. My second thought: There's no way anyone but Huntsman should be anywhere near the nuclear football. Shit, Huntsman is the only one who can properly pronounce "nuclear" with consistency. 

Herman Cain got hardly any questions, and completely, utterly boned the questions that he did answer. So much for the Cain train, folks. Cain claimed our national security has been downgraded. Obama sighed and reminded Cain about this one dude named Bin Laden. He claimed we couldn't bomb Iran because it has mountains(?), and that if we left Afghanistan, they'd suddenly become BFFs with Iran. Further, he said we must cut off foreign aid to Africa unless we see results. Not too controversial until you place it in context - he was talking about foreign aid for prevention and treatment of HIV. He also managed to fumble Wolf Blitzer's name, calling him "Blitz." In short, he knows nothing about national security, places with mountains can't be bombed because reasons, and fuck people with AIDS in Africa. 

Michele Bachmann went off again about the ACLU controlling CIA interrogations under Obama. Rep. Bachmann, the ACLU would like to have a word with you. Then she launched into a strange point about terrorists and technology changing. Basically, when we first thought about terrorism, phones were attached to the wall with wires and now terrorists have cell phones. Whatever that means. She then claimed Pakistan and the Middle East have seen six attempted terrorist attacks on nuclear facilities. Bachmann also called Perry naive and claimed Obama is threatening national security by canceling the Keystone Pipeline. It's not cancelled - the U.S. State Department ordered a new route be found for it. Plus, the governor of Nebraska called for the delay, not Obama. Yep. She kept babbling about magnets in regards to immigration.

Shorter Bachmann: Magnets. How do they work? Fuckin' miracles. On Iraq, she claimed "We need to remember, we won the peace in Iraq. And now President Obama is intentionally choosing to give that peace away." Uh-huh. Her true gem was when she said she knows all about existential threats. I'm sure Bachmann knows all about existential threats. I question her existence as a serious candidate often.

Jon Huntsman came out strong. He was emphatic that the military buildup overseas and defense budget we are currently running is unnecessary and repeated that any nation building must first begin at home. Huntsman also said strengthening the PATRIOT Act is not the best national security policy because it involves forfeiture of liberties at home - a point introduced by Ron Paul. He called for negotiation with both allies and enemies. Huntsman also ripped Romney a new one after Romney accused Huntsman of wanting America to fail because he suggested drawing down troops in Afghanistan and Iraq. According to Huntsman, indefinite war is expensive and makes us no friends. Who knew? Essentially, his opinions were well-reasoned, thought-out policy positions versus talking points, and he'll never succeed in the polls with the current GOP. He has the best quote of the night:

"‎I have to say that our biggest problem is right here at home. And you can see it on every street corner. It’s called joblessness. It’s called lack of opportunity. It's called debt, that has become a national security problem in this country. And it's also called a trust deficit, a Congress that nobody believes in anymore, an executive branch that has no leadership, institutions of power that we no longer believe in. How can we have any effect on foreign policy abroad when we are so weak at home? We have no choice. We’ve got to get on our feet here domestically."

Newt Gingrich bloviated whenever the camera was on him. His speech was slurred and he lost his train of thought a few times, but compared to Perry, etc. he was put together. Personally, I thought Newt looked exhausted or ill. He finally found his pet moderator, Wolf Blitzer. Blitzer kissed his ass several times, with questions like, "Mr. Speaker, I remember you and Reagan did x..." and turned to Newt for historical "fact" - until Blitzer led him into the minefield of immigration. Suddenly, friends off. Gingrich posited a fairly reasonable solution (compared to others) in regards to immigration, though after reactions from other candidates, he became slightly incoherent. His idea was that immigrants found to be undocumented, who have close ties to the U.S., would not necessarily be deported. Slightly less radical than Cain's electric fence. The other candidates pushed him off the moment of compassion, and as soon as CNN started their post-debate coverage, he was all about take-backs with his immigration stance. He also made an odd point about defeating Nazis with our natural resources like oil and our confidence. Gingrich called Ron Paul "my friend" and I think Paul nearly came over the podium.

Ron Paul continued his powerful performance in the debates. He unequivocally opposed the extension of the PATRIOT Act and said we need to get out of the conflicts we're involved in due to expense and the fact that we're not directly threatened by any countries with which we're currently engaged. Paul stated the PATRIOT Act undermines liberty and when several candidates endorsed profiling Muslims (really) Paul just about lost it. He emphasized white people, specifically, American white people, have committed acts of terrorism as well. Remember Timothy McVeigh? Ron Paul does. He also refused to pander to the pro-Israel folks, saying Israel can stand on its own and if it attacks other countries, it should pay the price like any other nation. Paul also said we should end the war on drugs immediately, particularly for medical marijuana patients. Too bad his compassion doesn't extend farther. Say what you will about Paul, at least he's consistent. Then he went all Grampa Simpson and said we should export the free market to Africa. We did. It's called exploitation. 

Rick Perry got little airtime. He had the same night Cain did. Perry kept harping about sanctioning Iran's bank, which the Obama administration stopped just short of doing recently. He criticized the Obama administration for being ineffective, yet praised "our security forces" in regards to stopping recent terroristic threats. Apparently, he's forgotten Obama is still the commander-and-chief. He finally said that intelligence under the Obama administration has been a failure, apparently forgetting about Osama bin Laden. Perry wants to make TSA more effective by privatizing it, because TSA's main problem is unions. He endorsed racial profiling like nearly every other candidate. He also said Obama's debt committee failure was because of the trigger (a republican measure - remember Boehner said they got 98% of what they wanted). His explanation:

"So the idea that you can't sit down and work with people on both sides of the aisle, but just to, you know, throw us into — into that briar patch at this particular point in time and say, what would you do — we would never have gotten into that situation if I were the president of the United States. I'd have been there working day in and day out so that we had a budget that not only — I’ve laid out a clear plan to — flat tax of 20 percent; cut the spending; and put a 20 percent corporate tax rate in. And, as a matter of fact, they ought to make the legislature, the Congress, part-time, and that would make as big an impact in this city as anything I can think of."

So yeah, if you can parse that, more power to you.

Mitt Romney was slicker than usual. He didn't have the tousled hair of a few debates ago. He looked like a presidential Ken doll. Romney suggested TSA needs to be more efficient with pat downs and that some folks could go through faster than others. Oh, and maybe we don't need to do pat-downs but whatever, sure, next talking point. This caught my attention (emphasis mine):

We need tools when war is waged domestically to ensure that as president of the United States you can fulfill your first responsibility which is to protect the life, liberty and property of American citizens and defend them from foes domestic and foreign. That means yes we’ll use the constitution and criminal law for those people who commit crimes but those who commit war and attack the United States and pursue treason of various kinds we will use instead a very different form of law which is the law afforded to those who are fighting America.

What law? That's called the Geneva Convention first off - and Romney's endorsed torture. This is some serious pandering. What about Americans suspected of terrorism? Is that the same as treason? Scary shit, folks. Romney also mispronounced "modernity" multiple times and I feel that says a lot about the GOP. He pointed out America's approval rating in Pakistan is 12% and we should work with them. I don't see why Romney is too worried - that's three points above Congress in a recent CBS/New York Times poll.

Rick Santorum is batshit. Period. I'll just give a sample of what he said...

On profiling: "Well, the folks who are most likely to be committing these crimes. If you look at — I mean, obviously, it was — obviously, Muslims would be — would be someone you’d look at, absolutely. Those are the folks who are — the radical Muslims are the people that are committing these crimes, as we’ve — by and large, as well as younger males. I mean, these are things that — not exclusively — but these are things that you profile to — to find your best — the most likely candidate."

On holy war: "We are not fighting a war on terrorism. Terrorism is a tactic. We're fighting a war against radical Islam."

On redefining geography: "Africa was a country on the brink. On the brink of complete meltdown and chaos, which would have been fertile ground for the radical Islamists to be able to — to get — to get a foothold."

On alliances: "Well, I've spent a lot of time and concern — and Rick mentioned this earlier — about what's going on in Central and South America. I'm very concerned about the militant socialists and there — and the radical Islamists joining together, bonding together. I'm concerned about the spread of socialism and that this administration, with — time after time, whether it was the delay in moving forward on Colombia's free trade agreement, whether it was turning our back to the Hondurans and standing up for democracy and the — and the rule of law. And we took the side with Hugo Chavez and Fidel Castro for a corrupt President. We've sent all the wrong signals to Central and South America."

Winners: Jon Huntsman, Ron Paul, Magnets, the ACLU, Barack Obama Losers: Brown people who wish to fly without being profiled, liberty, Americans living in poverty, Herman Cain