#daphneg121

I think Harry and Matt look at it from a "real life" POV, which is why they consider immortality to be a curse. I don't think you can do that. Shadowhunters is not real life. Shadowhunters is very much a romantic fantasy show. Shadowhunters is the type of show where fairy tale romances and happily ever afters exist. I think immortal Malec makes much more sense, given the context of the show.

Also I think part of the reason why a lot of Asian viewers, like myself, are still happy with Magnus' storyline in 3B is because Magnus got to be depressed without being villainized for it. Magnus showed signs of mental illness. Alec still loves and cherishes him. As of 3x19, Magnus may not be aware of the love, but he'll find out about the deal soon enough.

Yup. They feel that their racism is being justified and validated. They’re gloating and invading all Magnus/Malec related tags. I don’t mind them, tbh, but the problem is that people do buy into their toxic racist rhetoric. And eventually the huge part of the fandom ends up invalidating not just Malec, but Magnus as a character. They strip him off of his agency and apply harmful racial Anti Asian stereotypes on to him. For me this isn’t about the ship but about anti asian racism that targets Magnus first of all.

I'm Asian as well and I agree with you. This is also my main problem with the people, who want mortal Alec. I actually don't really care that much about the immortality thing, but it's the blatant racism we see in fandom that really pisses me off! They don't consider Magnus to be as important as Alec's other family members because he's an Asian man. Sometimes I think there's some homophobia in there as well because they think it's normal for Jace to put Clary first.

@daphneg121

Thank you! Like this is the other part of it. From a personal standpoint, knowing what Magnus had gone through and knowing what Valentine was capable of doing, he should have told him. In my opinion.

But more importantly from a professional point of view he really should have told! He made the council. He literally said he would make the Clave change. He told them total transparency. Because of this Magnus discloses Valentine being in his body. Risk of uprising or no risk, he should have kept that promise. To show it was true and that he would keep his word.

Imagine if he had told the Council to begin with and they’d had the warlocks to put up that ward from the start. Werewolves to track scent. Vampires. Maybe the seelies as well. But the truth is that Alec still has that mentality of thinking he knows what’s best for the downworld and also putting shadowhunter needs first.

That’s fine, as far as it being a learning curve. That’s he kind of thing he’ll learn to stop doing. But right now that’s still his headspace.

Maybe the original plan for S4 was to have Asmodeus as the next Big Bad after Lilith and Jonathon were defeated? They probably had to change their plans because I’m guessing Lilith and Jonathon will be defeated in 3x22.