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Dioskouroi by DevilDoll | Chapter 21

that’s not what i meant tho, my issues generally revolve around the deification of jack and how mean kevin was to randall during childhood

Ah, yes -- I do think they show the more human side of Jack as the series develops, and part of the idealism surrounding Jack might have to do with the fact that he is gone (kinda like how flawed people get remembered for their best qualities after death). He wasn’t perfect by any means.

I’m hoping they do more to resolve the issues between Kevin and Randall as the series moves along. It kind of reminds me of the dynamic between Brandon and his adopted siblings in The Fosters w/ re: to self-destructive attention-seeking habits and parents being more focused on the marginalized kids.

I do like how they show that no matter how loving or kind Randall’s adopted parents were to him, being black in an otherwise white family comes with its own challenges and that their privileges as white people prevent them from understanding Randall and his needs.

that would probably be really hard for him tho, because he hasn’t had any positive jotun representation (for lack of a better word). he was raised in an environment where the jotun are the evil scapegoat and it’s impossible not to internalize that. if he knew any jotun who could show him what he could do that would be one thing, but he killed laufey and are there any jotun left? there must be. that was the point of destroying the bifrost, to save them, but we don’t see them again do we?

We don’t see them in the films, but they pop up in the comics from time to time.  Loki’s other biological parent Farbauti is alive. They appear in Young Avengers and in Thor & Loki: Blood Brothers, but not in the MCU.

It’s interesting, because in Thor: Tales of Asgard (an animated movie), a young Thor and Loki cause the deaths of a few Jotun guards as a result of their own foolish actions and this is taken very seriously... even by Odin. 

Their actions nearly result in war, and Odin reprimands them (especially Thor) for what they did. Jotunheim’s King Thrym prepares for war, but unlike Laufey, he is level headed and willing to negotiate. He’s not blood-thirsty.

So, there are good examples of Jotuns (though few and far between, unfortunately.) If Loki had been raised with those kinds of role models his life may have been different.  

Thor: Tales of Asgard is still operating on the idea that Loki has no idea he’s Jotun. There’s some hints given here and there. Loki mentions not being effected by the cold on Jotunheim. He creates a snake out of ice. etc.

This animated movie is more in line with MCU canon. 

When we’re talking about the comic books it’s a lot more complicated, but in general: Loki was not adopted as a baby. Loki was adopted as a boy. Laufey beat him and hid him away for being too small. 

Loki is fully aware he’s Jotun. Odin adopted him and it’s seen as an act of mercy because Laufey was abusive. However, Loki’s future self visited his younger self to orchestrate this and ensure Odin adopted him. 

It’s all very complicated. Either way, Loki hates Laufey and that in part lends to Loki hating Jotuns. The other part of that is that some of the people of Asgard view the Jotuns as inferior to them, view them as monsters, etc.  

...so yeah, Loki spent a lot of time distancing himself from that aspect of his identity to show himself to be superior to everyone.

The MCU is different, of course, and it’s been interpreted in multiple ways. 

Some people go with the whole “Odin saved Loki from death by adopting him because clearly Laufey had abandoned him” and then there’s “In an imperialistic mission, Odin stole Laufey’s son”

Some say that because of Odin’s comments re: uniting their kingdoms, Odin would adopt Loki as a sort of agreement that their two kingdoms would remain in peace... but then why did Odin not groom Loki for that role etc. 

Whatever the case, I can fully understand why Loki wouldn’t accept that part of himself because he really hasn’t been raised in a Jotun society and he hasn’t had any positive role models at all like you said. 

Plus, it’s hard to tell how much of Loki’s attitude is based on how he was raised and how much of it is Loki honestly believing he’s better than everyone else and how much of him acting that way is him trying to prove his worth to himself. 

Thank you!! 💜

when i was still teaching preschool one of the two year old boys always had the best lunches and he would eat it all - garlic spinach, fresh tomato salad, stinky cheese, hummus - and it’s because he ate what his parents ate at home, he didn’t get chicken nuggets while they ate something with nutritional value and it had always been like that. kids eat what they’re given ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

then have the surgery

my mom has gerd and she controls it with diet and protonix - she's had it for like 20 years