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1623
i'm shocked because lot of people are angry at la'an for killing that gorn. and i saw some post calling her homophobic. just calm down. i don't mind people who disagree with la'an 's action and I can even admit if she had picard or sisko as captain they probably wouldn't let it pass. i don't know. la'an isn't conservative or homophobic, she was protecting erica.
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βI love the tranquil, peaceful first minutes after a new confession pops up on my dash. The calm before the storm of toxic miasma.βΒ
1623
People who act like Kirk would be a good dad (or wants to be one) are braindead to me. He literally has a kid canonically and he's terrible with him and would choose his ship/captaincy over David any day of the week without even really thinking about it
It's a terrible idea to submit this but I've got to get it off my chest. In response to La'an and the Gorn discourse (1575, 1582, 1604,1615,1623 et al), was La'an this hated before season 3? Is it really about the Gorn?
What else did La'an do this season? Get involved with Spock? and thus get in the way of The Ship that is Spirk?
I've no proof because of course people wouldn't come out and say it but I'm terrible suspicious of this.
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Posting two responses to 1623 thread.
Anon #1
This isn't a confession, more of a reply to someone else's response. I don't think there's some grand conspiracy about people hating La'an. (While I disagree with the "homophobic" argument about the Gorn murdering, I see it as just a nothingburger and a joke.) La'an is actually pretty well-liked in the general fandom despite the divisiveness over her backstory; I think people should be allowed to say their criticisms of her existence or actions without risk of being harassed, hence the anonymous confessions. SNW is also very recent Trek so it makes sense that recent confessions would be about La'an, especially since she's more a morally gray character than Chapel or Uhura. I also think it's condescending benevolent sexism to say a female character can't be criticized at all.
Anon #2
https://www.tumblr.com/star-trek-fandom-confessions/797046763062181888/its-a-terrible-idea-to-submit-this-but-ive-got?source=share
Ok, look, if some Spirks are behind some of the La'an hate, I wouldn't be surprised. That said, I also think blaming all the hate of season 3 on them isn't right either.
First of all, there were already people, not all of them Spirks, that disliked La'an even before she got involved with Spock or Jim before him, because she was an Augment, because of how people found difficult to accept her as a descendant of Khan, because as a really tough and strict character (before she mellowed out) some people had a hard time relating to and liking her compared to more cheerful and easy-going female characters. Ffs, people theorized that she was going to die when there was no reason to believe so, long before she got together with Spock! I think a few said that even before Tomorrow x 3 but it definitely continued after Jim Prime rejected her so in this instance the "Kirk/La'an" threatens Spirk didn't really stand.
Second, I think it's a bit disingenuous to believe Spirk is the only ship threatened by Spock and La'an. I haven't seen anything from the Spapels because we're not in the same circles but I don't think they're happy that their ship didn't get back together this season. And didn't this blog very recently have a bunch of confessions complaining that Uhura was done dirty by the writers because she was not made a love interest? You know that there are people that genuinely ship Ortegas and the Gorn and not only as a strawman argument? There's fanfiction! Yes that "La'an is homophobic" is nothing short of ridiculous but never underestimate the length ridiculous people are willing to go to.
In conclusion, Spirks can be obnoxious and I am 100% sure that some of them are bashing La'an lately, but it's annoying how every time a female character gets hate everybody immediately points the finger to mlm shippers: let's not pretend that only Spirks can be toxic, and let's not pretend that toxicity is only ever about shipping. Anyway sorry about the text wall.
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Kinda adding on to what that second anon said, I remember La'an fans bashing Carol Marcus back in S2 because Kirk chose Carol over her; it does seem kinda hypocritical of La'an stans to say Spock x La'an dislikers are misogynistic Spirk shippers when they were saying mean things about Dr. Marcus, acting like she was the evil baby mama keeping Kirk and the 'cooler' female love interest La'an apart.
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