well you know I gotta come back and ask abt your pin and shirt š Jewish Noel real??? Noe1?? šššš
HELLOOOO! SUMMER WEDDING!!! Iām just going to. Dump a bunch of brain thoughts about Noel here for you to parse through, not unlike a bargain bin at a flea market. Once again, this is so long, so itās under the cut!
Let me start with clarifying Noe1 LOL, Iām borrowing the 1 inclusion from The Locked Tomb fandom and how we often refer to the original Gideon (G1deon) to distinguish him from the main character Gideon Nav. So Noe1 is just my distinguishing original Noel from Charlie-Noel! Perhaps Iām assuming too much TLT/Mal overlapā¦. But if you havenāt read TLT oh my god pls do (and my buddy @croweofthebog has a really fun crossover fic you can be rewarded with).
As for Jewish Noel, first and foremost heās Jewish because I want him to be. Trans Jewish Butch headcanons a trans Jewish Butch wow fork found in kitchen. But Iām standing by it and doubling down.
I donāt have as much here because really I just think it would be fun. Iām imagining NY Polycule of a Catholic priest, a Jew, a fragment of an elder god beyond comprehension, and the staunch anti-religious guy they all revolve around. Itās just tasty whaaat can I say. Iām also thinking back to the comic from potato-lord that had Noel and Oscar praying together or doing religious rites together and I think thatās really fantastic and fun!
I also love the idea of Noel having drifted from practice with leaving family/the War/taking on Noe1ās identity and then finding his way back over time. Anytime I can get my hands on a character who is Jewish but their Judaism is downplayed or a character who could be Jewish itās like⦠what would it look like for this guy to re-choose ritual and practice? (I have a superbat fic that will never escape my mind in part about this). This is actually just generally true for religion, Iām a big religion guy (not in a cult way, I was just a religious studies student and a JCS fan) and think it adds such a fun layer to stuff.
To get technical, I think Noel would maybe be born into a conservative family and then move to reform if not be born in reform. It sorta depends to me on where his folks immigrated from. Which leads me toā¦.
Cracking my knuckles here and opening up the gaeilge side of things in his last name, so Dowd comes from Ć Dubhda (derived from dubh for black, meaning generally like grandson/descendent of dark or black). In contrast, Noe1ās last name Finley (which is more Scottish origin and I donāt have any Scottish Gaelic but) tied back to fairness, blondness. For sake of having fun weāre going to take those both literally as physical descriptors of their respective families and say the Dowds are darker haired and the Finleys are lighter. Iām going to round back out to the kibitz I swear but this is also fun. I think thereās something fun about Noel potentially coming from a Dark Features Family and then taking up his dead best friendās name, Light Features, and having to like⦠use that name and look in the mirror and nothing match. Very haunting of the past. No one would really even think to point it out but it haunts him just a little bit.
But anyways. Thinking of the Dowds as at least half Irish immigrants, if weāre talking potential for interfaith marriage then weāre probably talking reform. I do have separately similar headcanoning around Daniel (and/or maybe the Saltzmans before himā¦?) being German immigrants to England who converted to Christianity to escape Jewish persecution (Saltzman often being a German-Jewish last name). This would add to why Daniel is so adamant and could bring a fun lens to Bellaās pushback! I also love the idea of people from Arthurās future acting as reflections of those from his past, and I think having returning to Jewish practice Noel/withheld from Jewish heritage Bella and religious cult parents/Oscar declaring his devotion to Arthur as a religious purpose is tasty and Iām microwaving them.
Once again THANKS FOR ASKING dude I literally couldnāt do this until I finished my thesis so thanks for the motivation.
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basically wrestling is fiction (at least the wrestling i post about) and thea hail is a character. every wrestler plays a character, same for managers and commentators. wrestling (again, the type i post about) is basically combat-based live theater where paranormal shit can happen and be played off as real. and the audience is (at least nowadays) in on the bit and playing their role. if that makes sense. to u. WRESTLING IS VERY COOL AND I LIKE TO TALK ABOUT IT
Oh this is SO interesting! Because Iāve always heard people say like āoh wrestling is fake blah blahā and like yeah but this framing is so fascinating. Because yeah, that is combat theater. These are personas/characters. Thatās so interesting⦠might I ask what about Thea Hail is so compelling?? (Zero wrestling knowledge)
An Archive of Our Own, a project of the Organization for Transformative Works
Chapters: 1/1
Fandom: Malevolent (Podcast)
Rating: Teen And Up Audiences
Warnings: No Archive Warnings Apply
Relationships: John Doe/Arthur Lester, John Doe & Arthur Lester
Characters: Daniel Saltzman (Mentioned)
Additional Tags: Post-Season/Series 05, Alternate Universe - Canon Divergence, Memory Loss, Soulmates
Summary:
The man gave him a flat expression, not giving anything away. āDo you know me?ā he asked.
Arthur fixed him with a curious look. āShould I?ā he returned.
The man leaned forward, his knee pressing into Arthurās under the counter. āCanāt you tell?ā
Maybe that was why, as Noel worked out a particular snarl in his hair, that he felt the need to even them out. To invite Noel into his space in some vulnerable way. To give Noel a chance to take from him instead.
āWill you cut my hair?ā John asked.
Noel stopped short, the brush just freeing through the end of a strand. He fixed John with a raised eyebrow.
āLike a trim?ā he said slowly. John couldnāt read his tone.
āNo.ā John shook his head. Noel rested the brush on Johnās shoulder. āI cut yours. Now Iām asking you to cut mine.ā
Or⦠What if you were a fracture of an elder god made human. And living with the guy that you(ish) tortured for years. And youāre sort of crushing on him but also sort of together already and also something a little lesbian is happening. And what if he asked you to cut his hair. MY Butch Noel agenda in action.Ā
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HI. ASKING ABOUT YOUR BUTCH NOEL AGENDA ON MY HANDS AND KNEES. PLS RAMBLE AT ME
HELLO! HEY! I saw this notif when you sent it and then I blacked out from excitement and only woke up now. Okay. OKAY! Iām putting this under a cut because (editorās note here) itās so long oh my god.
So really it starts with I just love that archetype and thought heād be so wonderful as a butch. But then⦠I was bewitched.
First and foremost, Iām interested in the early access to HRT that he couldāve had access to while abroad during the war. Itās maaybeee a little too early in our real timeline (from records we have it was like⦠1910s/20s in Germany), but because this is FICTION I can do whatever I want. And lesbian bars/gathering spaces were present and accessible at the time, so picture if you will a young Charlie Dowdā pause wait.
Actual first and foremost, Charlie is just such a neutral name. This could be short for any manner of āgirlsā names that he then shortens to Charlie for passing sake. Likewise for Noel (Nole vs No-EL), which adds for me the fun of asking was Noel also a butch. Iām thinking here in line with Lee Mandeloās butch mc in The Woods All Black, Leslie, who enlists as an army nurse in order to have a career while being butch (and playing around in European queer scenes, weāre looping back around). I could see Charlie & Noe1 being two butch childhood friends using the war as an opportunity to leave their hometown environment (especially since Charlie S4 doesnāt seem choked up about being cut off from family/spent all that time in Egypt no side comment about family).
WHICH! Then back to Europe! There would definitely be opportunity for two butch army nurses to access HRT (which would make living in the States again easier, passing as a man Ć la Jess in Stone Butch Blues and alsoā¦. Like me and a million dykes through history). I also though enjoy the idea of Charlie just pretending to be a dude from the jump and joining the army, but the vision is less practical. Easier maybe if Noe1 is a guy (and an ally!) and helps perhaps.
Easy enough either way to take your dead friendās name and identity (and really, ultimately, itās most fun to me if Noe1 is a cis man and Charlie enlists as a nurse so they stay together, then thereās easy army records to back up Charlieās claiming to be a guy). He even alludes to looking younger than he is⦠hello transgender! In my heart of hearts he has something lesbian going on with John (as opposed to the gay thing John has going on with Arthur) given Johnās gender business. I am partial to an Arthur/Noel old school fag4dyke situation for the ultimate benefit of Johnās In There. Not as partial to Noel/Oscar though I enjoy their⦠one second of interaction in canon.
Thatās the gist (or as much as I will type now⦠it is 2amā¦.) of my Butch Noel theorizing. THANK YOU for asking and pls hit my inbox or msgs for Butch Noel chat (open to anyone ever) orrr in my most recent AO3 posting there is delicious Butch Noel/John haircut tenderness.
Tomorrow I am taking a long bus ride and am very excited! I keep thinking of a 1930s movie I watched recently that features bus travel and heheing to myself that Iām taking a long bus (: