#cognitive loops

How do you tell people of these two type apart (since they are not using their auxiliary extrovert functions (Se and Ne) when they’re in a Ni or Si loop)?

I think stereotypically, negative Ni would fixate on future and Si would fixate on past. However, most people (IRL) usually focus on both, especially when they’re in an unhealthy state of mind.

How do you tell them apart? What kind of (other) differences do they show that helps you tell them apart?

Thanks.

Not offhand, no. Their loops are dissimilar. Ti/Si analyzes and re-analyzes detailed information from their past in order to make sense of something they feel has derailed them, often becoming deeply subjective and not being accurate in how they remember the incident (it’s subjective and colored by “what I took away from what happened” rather than objectively factual /data-related). Ti/Ni analyzes and re-analyzes a future they feel is inevitable and doomed, feeling like there’s nothing they can do to stop this bad thing from happening (whatever they have decided that is) and becoming inert in their certainty of failure -- often finding a catastrophic thing to fixate on (I’m going to get fired, my partner is cheating on me, I know it, we’re all doomed).

ISTPs don’t care about the past in a subjective way, and INTPs don’t create pessimistic doom scenarios except in a low sense of Si “my life sucks now, it has always sucked, it will always suck, because I’ll never be anything else / leave this moment, it will repeat forever and I’ll always be stuck in a rut.”

Fe-dom: concern for all involved, putting aside oneself for the greater good of the group (family, friends, etc), evaluating things through ethics and how they impact the people involved, genuinely understanding where others are coming from, catering one’s approach to your audience. --> Se loop: impulsivity, leaping on bad opportunities (while thinking they are good ones), over-indulgences in unwise ways, over-spending, trying to impress people by having the best things.

In a loop, you’re still accessing two separate functions, which play off each other in tandem to create a ‘scattered’ mess. For an ENTP, Ne/Fe looks like chasing after every idea that comes to you, all in an attempt to impress other people -- so you never make progress on anything because you’re discarding ideas and generating new ones all out of a desire to entice your audience (with no Ti to tell you whether your ideas are stupid or not). For an ENFP, Ne/Te looks like trying to bring all those ideas into tangible reality, but having no focus and no sense of what is meaningful to the ENFP (no Fi to guide you). Se/Fe and Se/Te loops are less unfocused, but more opportunistic, so they may be jumping at opportunities in the immediate environment without thinking them through in an attempt to either connect to their audience or get things done.

A grip is where you only access your inferior function -- which tends to be highly immature, so that means you’re acting like an extremely childish version of a type with that function as ‘dominant.’ For inferior Fe, you become whiny, preoccupied with being persecuted and misunderstood, blame everyone else for your own problems, and are desperate to appeal to other people -- but without any real understanding of how you are coming across to them, because Fe in the inferior function is infantile.

Hey I was wondering what is the difference between the two? Also what is being obsessed of what people think of me?

Ti/Si - past - present focus.

Ti/Ni - future - present focus.