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Hi, I’m a ninety thousand year old dog robot who will never meaningfully learn or alter or decay, I cradled my god in my arms as they died and I decided then and there that I was never going to be cool about it. I attend your local high school.Â

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I don’t know I feel like the impulse to condemn the Chee morally is sort of a waste of time. The Chee are buckwild. They don’t make sense. I don’t look at a “steel-and-ivory” anthropomorphic-dog-shaped physically unstoppable hardwired pacifist android from the dawn of time that has lived in a weird high tech basement with the same bickering collective of like forty people for the last umpteen thousand years and think “That’s a guy who’s gonna have ethics that make sense to me.” They’re not human; they’re not even a viable narrative analog for humans. I don’t think Erek King’s bizarre deal is really a functional referendum on the merits of pacifism in the context of an ongoing war of empire. Mans isn’t even a pacifist. He’s got a slug in solitary confinement in his head. IMO he’s more of an extremely hypothetical sci fi case study in like, the deranged energy that your ethical framework acquires if you’re only accountable to one profoundly insular group of people for literal millennia. It’s about ingroup loyalty. It’s also about the impossibility of being both immortal and meaningfully beholden to any given moment in history. It’s also a little bit about being an angel abandoned by God and forced to choose between running on obsolete instructions or falling from a grace that decayed aeons ago. Â
I actually think that Erek’s thing about “I can’t do physical violence because my brain won’t soften or compartmentalize the memories, I will always recall this day with perfect vivid accuracy” (not a direct quote) is a super interesting addition to Animorphs’ deconstruction of the teen superhero / go-to-school-save-the-world genre and it would be cool it they circled back to it deliberately throughout the series. Because it’s not about right or wrong, it’s about can and can’t, and it’s specifically linking the ability to successfully commit violence to the ability to—basically—lie to yourself.Â
And I’m thinking about @prettyboysdontlookatexplosions​ saying that Cassie’s “happy ending” communicates that, I think your words were something like, “the only way to make it through atrocity intact is to delude yourself to a considerable degree about your complicity in it.” We’ve discussed at length the ways our reading of Cassie differs, but I agree that the question of are you being honest about what you are doing is a thruline for the series and I’d argue that the reason Cassie finds violence so much more difficult than the rest of the team is because she is often unable to ignore or compartmentalize the impact she has on victims and bystanders. Rachel is very very good at violence because she...doesn’t really see her victims, a lot of the time. Marco is good at violence because he’s able to put his victims in a box in his mind and close the box and not open it again. He’s not lying to himself per se, but he chooses not to pay attention to the people he hurts, and he is able to do that, and that means he is able to hurt people.Â
As I’ve said before, I think the Chee’s most direct foil are the Howlers, and the Howlers are perfect perpetrators of violence because they have zero idea of what is happening to their victims. When they find out, they are considered ruined as soldiers. I think that the idea that, in order to hurt people and keep doing it, you kind of have to be able to hold your nose and close your eyes, is kind of a load-bearing premise of Animorphs, and the Chee add an angle as characters who flat out can’t do that and therefore, despite their enviable physical and technological firepower, are never going to be viable combatants.Â
Imagine you’re a ten thousand year old hardwired-pacifist invulnerable android with anger issues pretending to be a slug pretending to be a teenager and you attend the fake funeral of a woman disappeared by your evil slug fake boss and you’re so angry at this funeral that you can’t even pretend to be sad, even though your face is an actual hologram that you literally control, because this woman was disappeared and because you know what this loss and this lie is doing to her family including her eleven-year-old child, who looks like his world just ended right in front of him, and you’ll probably never be able to tell him the truth, you know this little boy’s mother is alive and you know where she is but your cover prevents you from offering that solace and your pacifist programming prevents you from righting this wrong, and then years later you finally get to have an honest open conversation with this kid and he just roasts you nonstop. He insults every member of your extended family as he like, passes them in the hallway.
The unresolved dichotomy of “Marco’s interactions with the Chee in this book reveal a fascinating shift in his character in the late series” vs “the book is ghostwritten and not super well, Marco’s maybe just out of character about the Chee in this one”

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would u talk more about kaa's poor understanding of torture and how that manifests in the books
CW discussion of the use of torture in the Animorphs series.
It’s true I never know exactly how much like, analytical weight to give the solitary confinement (possibly sensory deprivation?) chambers the Chee keep their Yeerks in, given how apparent it is throughout the series that Applegate was missing essential information about what torture is and how it functions. I don’t know whether to just, suspend disbelief and pretend the Chee are closer to nonviolent than they are, or to read it at face value: that the species that claims a religious adherence to nonviolence engages in torture without blinking an eye, and then how do you factor that into a reading of the Chee’s role in the series’ wider deconstruction of the psychological workings of violence. IDK. If you look at torture in Animorphs with an informed critical eye the story falls apart so quickly that I just. Try not to do so. Because I don’t know that there’s anything helpful to be gleaned there beyond “A kids’ sci fi author in the 90s was severely misinformed about the scientific realities of torture.”Â
All I want. Okay. All I want is for someone to do a Twilight satire with the Chee as the vampires. All the components are there.Â