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it's a comfort thing

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Ok here’s my take on dee x charlie x mac x dennis, Or more specifically ALL THREE of them wanting charlie carnally. I think the fact that frank is so close to charlie drives ALL of them crazy… They’re so much better than frank, how comes charlie gives all his attention to him!!
i love the argument for writing off charlie's recent (s17) behaviour toward frank as him seeing frank solely as a father figure, because it's not only immediately outright disproved by frank's introductory season
but you also just end up sounding insane. you mean the two characters canonically, legally considered ex-husbands? you think they're just platonic father and son? you don't think maybe charlie could have had ulterior motives suggesting he and frank become "friends with benefits" instead of suggesting that frank adopt him? charlie doesn't demand shelley get a blood test, just frank, who he has been sleeping with.

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I think one of the underdiscussed aspects of the Charlie and Frank dynamic is that in addition to Everything Else They Got Going On, they are also boss and employee. not only that, it seems Frank is the only one in the gang who truly understands that even though Frank finances, Charlie is the one who actually keeps the bar running smoothly. In Dines Out he says Mac and Dennis don't appreciate all his work, implying /he/ does, and it's true. But because of this Frank believes Charlie needs to be kept down, at the bottom, that's where the foundation goes. everyone knows that Frank lives in squalor because he chooses to but I think some people forget the other side, that for Charlie it's not a choice. only reason he let Frank move in w him in the first place was because Frank offered to pay rent. Everyone in the gang relies on Frank financially but not so much as Charlie who is completely dependent on him, and whose livelihood is entirely reliant on Frank's whims. Few examples is when Frank moves out to live with Bonnie, he takes all of Charlie's shit with him. In Great Recession he kicks him out, making Charlie homeless. And I think that's why we get stuff about Charlie keeping Frank reliant on him as well, through changing his prescription glasses and even insisting on chewing his food. Something I think about too is in Back in Business Frank claims he's going to take Charlie under his wing and mentor him. Even though Charlie proves to be useful once he starts asking questions and wanting to actually learn, Frank fires him.
I don't actually know where I'm going with all of this. I guess I just find this very interesting to chew on when discussing those two and I don't see it considered often, when to me it's a fundamental aspect of how their relationship became Like That.
i'll be like one of your girls or your homies
See the funny thing about iasip is that the whole gang is fucking gay. They all started out being like we’re all very Straight Normal Men (and woman) and now they’re all 50+ and will never have “normal” relationships and are all clearly in varying levels Not Straight ™ and all in some sort of bizarre fucked up polycule because who else is gonna stick around? They only have each other <3 hand in unloveable hand <3