"Just remember, hot dogs! That's what we're about now. Eating them fucking hot dogs."
love a man on a mission. and Daryl is it. i'm sorry Carol, i love you, Daryl loves you, but get busy working on eating those fucking hot dogs cause you both deserve it. AND BEANS!
staying out of everybody's shit is the best idea Daryl ever had. he's right, it's only gonna get messier if they get involved. he learned that in France.
i laughed, i cannot lie... the man is on a mission to get his Carol safe back home, who cares about Alba? cause let's be real, no one else in that village is actually worried about her...
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The fact that daryl is raising rick's kids just.... ends me on so many levels it's so beautiful and I'm???? Rick and Daryl loved each other so so much but they didn't have they were fighting in the end and it makes me so happy to see that despite that they were family and always will be. Also are we ever going to get those Rick/Michonne movies it's been such a long time since we heard news about them they're my faves besides Daryl and carol and I need to see what happens to them they can't just leave the faith of arguably the show's main character for most of its run unknown like this.
YES! At the time, Rick and Daryl might have disagreed on the path to follow, but they were always friends and family. Despite not having much contact with the kids while he was self-isolating in the woods looking for Rick, Daryl was there since the day Judith was born. Rick and Michonne are two of his closest friends, and in their absence, he stepped up. It makes me happy to see how much Daryl has grown as a character and is now playing an important role as one of the group's leaders.
I am very skeptical about those Rick movies, but I do hope there's some sort of resolution for his and Michonne's storyline at the end of the main show. IMO the whole audience deserves to know if Rick and Michonne will ever reunite with their children and their friends/family. They can’t keep delaying and saving it for a movie that may never happen. It has been 3 years with no news, soooo.... 🤷♀️
And of course, I am also dying to see Carol and Rick reunite too. There’s so much history, but also respect between them. And the crazy raw emotion of Caryl, kids and Richonne reunion. Can you imagine Daryl, Carol and Rick, the 3 OGs, reuniting? They started the show and they end the show TOGETHER. BUT not before Rick learns Carol and Daryl have finally confessed their romantic feelings for each other, and sends them off to their new roadtrip adventures. A girl can dream...
Other Carylers have spoken about the episode and their interpretations of it and what it means for Caryl and their future and I've been sharing those and don't have that much to add to what’s already been discussed. Others have written well thought out and detailed analyses and interpretations and said it way better than I ever could. Most of them have been writing about Caryl forever and I started less than a year ago. I do want to speak to some technical stuff and a few other things, since I never do know when to shut up. Spoilers for 10.18 below the cut.
Brief talk on techie stuff... Wow, the cinematography in the plus six are really taking it up a notch. 10.18 has some of the most gorgeous images in the history of the show. The colors, the framing, and Caryl; separated by a stretch of water that's a literal stand-in for the divide between them, in an episode stuffed with signs and symbols and parallels. "Find Me" has some of the most visually breathtaking shots in the history of TWD... and do you know why? Because the plus six were filmed on digital cameras, for the first time in the history of a show that has always been shot on 16 millimeter film. Turns out, the digital process not only has fewer "touch points" (thanks for nothing, COVID) but it's also cheaper, faster, and easier on the environment.
TWD almost switched to digital for Season 2, and while AK claims now that they can still give it that classic TWD look, in a 2019 interview posted on comicbook.com, she said they were committed to shooting on film to preserve it's look and feel (confirming that film and digital are noticeably not created equal, an opinion/truth they are apparently backing off of, now). If the new episodes look different, its because they are. I am torn between which style I prefer. The grainy, Kodak-y type images of TWD as shot on film are increasingly rare on any screen, simultaneously nostalgic and beautiful and born of toxicity. The gallons of chemicals used in developing standard film are not environmentally friendly and probably need to go the way of the dinosaur.
Digital is wonderful in its own ways, so minute in its details, and can easily capture images and light conditions otherwise incredibly difficult to duplicate on actual film... But digital doesn't look the same, it doesn't feel the same, in the way that CD's and vinyl records don't sound the same. Purists curl their lip at the new and improved version of the medium, but the truth is,most people don't notice the differences.
TWD has always used the sun and the moon to their best visual advantage and both the celestial backdrops show up in "Find Me." The sun filtering through the trees onto Daryl or in his general direction has made repeat appearances in S10. Is this a metaphor for his finally finding his enlightenment? (Or is it nothing deeper than AMC uses the light to make everything look as cool as possible?)
10.18 shows us more of Daryl's soul (in a single episode) than we've seen before. His character goes through all sorts of colors, screaming in the rainstorm, grimacing as puppy Dog licks his face, meeting and spending time with this strange, lonely, gruff, almost mirror reflection of himself, someone who is grieving and angry and alone. Fighting with Carol! A real fight, but an honest and not altogether unhealthy one. You gotta work through to acceptance and let go of the past before you can look forward to a future, and these two have enough trauma issues between them to fill a psychiatric journal. They’ve a long, arduous road ahead of them, but they WILL reach their destination. Together.
Daryl throwing the fish at Leah's door and Leah throwing the fish at Daryl are my favorite moments in the episode. I laughed out loud. I did not get the impression that they only encountered each other once every several months, I took it that the time jumps measured the progression of their relationship, i.e. that it took that long for them to warm up to each other. When Daryl did go to stay at Leah's, it was literally out of necessity, as he was getting frost bitten in the woods and probably would have lost at least a digit or two had he remained in his camp.
For the first time, I didn't really enjoy the Caryl banter? (Please don't hurt me.) There was a sadness, a tension, and a sense of loss there I just couldn't shake. Carol was trying to run away from the horrors of the Whisperer's aftermath, and Daryl knew it, and he was annoyed by it. Carol's attempts at lightheartedness seemed forced. I feel like Daryl is a man with a whole lot on his mind at this point, and that Carol is a woman who is habitually trying not to think about the real stuff if she can avoid it. She jokes and banters but she's almost too cheerful... or maybe it just seems that way because Daryl's so grim. Not grim as in we're-all-facing-our-end-of-days-doom grim, but not in a laughing mood where Carol's concerned. He thinks she's running again, and seeing Leah's cabin reminds him that Leah probably ran from him, too. He lost both his brothers, Rick and Merle. Daryl has abandonment issues and an overdeveloped sense of responsibility going back as far as we know. He loses people and can't find them again, no matter how much he searches.
Revisiting Leah's cabin, the devastation of Alexandria, and everything that's been building up over, about, and because of Carol has pressurized within Daryl till he finally takes a shot, and who can blame him? But he also shows his development and maturity by trying to express his disappointment with controlled words of frustration (compared to camp- or barn-rage Daryl in S2), telling Carol exactly what it is she does that's widening the chasm between them.
Carol to Daryl early in the episode "I don't want to lose you because you can't figure out when to stop," and Daryl to Carol "That's on you. 'Cause you don't know when to stop.") Daryl doesn't know when to stop searching for his lost brother and blaming himself for things, Carol didn't know when to stop her revenge-fueled pursuit of Alpha. Daryl also tells Carol "That's all that matters. You being right." (after she says she was right to go after and destroy Alpha to avenge her son.) At the end of the ep., Carol says it again: "I was right" (this time about their luck having run out), then she goes to fix the door.
So now Caryl know and have established what gets each other's goat. That could be a good thing, but tptb will undoubtedly attempt to convince us its a bad thing,, ya think? Neither of the characters knowing when to stop and their mutual annoyance over the fact could be something the show runners milk for a while.
Î wanted to know whether Daryl went back to the cabin after leaving his note, to see whether Leah had returned to it, or not. I want to know what Carol did with the note. Did she take it with her, or did she put it back? They never showed us. Daryl seemed anxious and tense about her finding it, and I did not miss the symbolism of Carol being the woman who eventually finds the note Daryl left behind years ago: "I belong with you. Find me." I mean, how perfect is that?
Contrary to spoilery bullshit stinking up the Twittersphere, Carol did not seem exactly “upset” at finding the note, though clearly she was sad. She knew exactly what the note was, so Daryl must’ve told her about it, that he left it. Maybe he didn't tell her exactly what it said or everything about Leah, but my impression was that she realized what it was and where they were, and it was all yesterday's news to her. Seeing the note seemed to make her sad for Daryl because she knows Daryl can't handle losing people, and that he punishes himself for failing to help or save people by pushing everybody away and isolating.
Leah didn't so much choose to be there in the cabin as she ran for her life from a dangerous situation and the cabin was just the place where she and her bitten son ended up.
So many yawning gaps in the Leah storyline. How often did they see each other? Did Daryl move in with her toward the end of their relationship? I felt like he did after the time she found him freezing in the woods, but that he'd leave for days to go look for Rick, or hunt, or who tf knows. Maybe he'd leave to see or meet Carol. Carol knew about Leah, but when? Before, or after it was happening? Why is that important? I just want to know when he told her. Really hoping they didn’t leave things purposely vague so they can fill in the gaps to screw with us later.
Timing is everything. Like, how much time passed between Leah telling Daryl to choose, and the time Carol told Daryl she couldn't keep visiting? Or did he leave Leah's cabin and return to it that same day? Which would imply Leah abandoned Daryl practically the instant he walked out the door following her ultimatum. It seems like Daryl was gone a while, it was dark when Leah told him to choose, and daylight in the scene with Carol at his camp and when he was walking in the woods. It could have been days. That makes a difference. Leah was obviously not Daryl's first choice, no matter that he ran back to her in the end.
The fact that Carol knew about Daryl's relationship with Leah is a crafty move on the show runner's part because we can't really be pissed at Daryl if Carol knew about it the whole time and was cool with it.... but we all know now that Daryl didn't tell her everything.
No one is talking about how Leah obviously abandoned Dog, she left him shut in the damn cabin for who knows how long after she left. And she DID leave. The cabin looked abandoned when Daryl left the note. He obviously went searching for her with Dog, but for how long?
Not to say there was nothing between them, but I never felt for an instant that Leah had Daryl's heart, or that he ever offered it up to her in the first place, but I am also 100% sure that’s because I’m ride-or-die for Caryl and can’t bear to entertain the thought. No matter what else they were, Daryl and Leah are isolated, damaged, traumatized people who wanted someone to hold on to. Someone to try and forget with. It's not like there were a lot of other people around to choose from.
So did Leah just leave Dog behind because the memories associated with him were too painful? (i.e. he was born on the day Leah's son died) Or did she feel that Daryl needed the companionship and gambled that Daryl would drop by soon and take him in? It really bothers me that she just split and left the dog locked in the cabin like that.
Grateful they didn't show us anything extra of Daryl seeming to genuinely give a shit, tbh. (Throwing a fish at someone's door, having sex with them, sleeping in their bed or eating their cooking doesn't necessarily constitute giving a shit in this world, just saying.) That was both refreshing (cuz u know, Caryl is endgame), and kind of tragic. I felt like Daryl was rather emotionally detached the entire time, but that Leah was maybe falling in love with him. Not in a good way, but in a possessive, demanding, all-or-nothing type of way.
How very very clever of AMC to leave us with all these ambiguities. So much room for interpretation, so many gaps to never be filled in. Bastards. On the bright side, all these holes in the story and missing material provide endless new opportunities for fanfic writers like me who can't break free of the bonds of canon. So, yay, I guess?
I am sad to give up the virgin Daryl trope, I was beginning to think that one was ours in canon to keep, but you know, it is what it is. It was a good, long run while it lasted, and I'm grateful we got to write inexperienced Daryl fics while we could still entertain the fantasy that Daryl was actually inexperienced. So, R.I.P. virgin Daryl. I'm not as upset about his getting laid as I thought I'd be (although it was incredibly underhanded, AMC, to pull this shit so very late in the game, there better be a good reason for it).
All the Leah thing means to me right now is that our man has probably picked up some skills during his time with her, and Carol's gonna be the ultimate beneficiary. Plus, Daryl's evolved over the years from throwing a fish at a woman's door to delivering her dinner on a tray with a flower, so...progress was made, even if he didn't start out with the woman we wish he had. (News Flash: The love of his life was unavailable and actually married to another man at the time, so there's that.)
There are a staggering number of Caryllels in this episode. Someone once said here that Kang loves her symbolism and they weren't wrong. No matter what's to come, we can be confident about where this road ends. At this point in TWD, to not eventually give us Caryl canon would be the absolute greatest trolling of a fandom in the history of trolling fandoms, and besides, we're getting a spin-off.
Another thing, the fact that Rick and Leah both basically disappeared on him shines a bright light on Daryl's determination to stick to Carol like glue in 10A and B. He was terrified that she was going to disappear on him, too.
What happened to the Caryl fandom following the spoilers wasn't worth it. How many times have we freaked out over spoilers? You think we'd learn. And you KNOW we are valued because AMC went so very far out of their way to provide the vaguest-ever depiction of a sexual encounter for Daryl. Remember the Eugene spying scene with Abe and Rosita, guys? Shane and Lori screwing on the ground in the woods? They could really have tortured us, and they chose to be kind.
I'm looking forward to "Diverged." Honestly, I could give a shit about most of the other characters, but they'll have to make do for us over the next couple of weeks. Just about the time 10.18's been dissected and interpreted to death, Caryl will reappear on our screens and mess with our hearts and minds some more. I can't wait.
Spoilery thoughts about Daryl Dixon - The Book of Carol 2.02 Moulin Rouge
Carol and Ash are totally driving me nuts. There's way too much chemistry between them and a beautiful bond is being formed here. Carol promises him to be back, and he promises to not leave without her. It's beautiful. Look, a boy and a girl can just be friends! 😉 (See what I did there?)
Now let's talk about the thing everybody will be raging about... SPOILERS AHEAD
The Darabell kiss. Holy lack of any chemistry... *cringe*
Zabel says you def see Daryl, Isa and Laurent as a family unit, before the kiss. As for the kiss, he just goes on about how they hoped there was a dynamic chemistry between the characters, but it wasn't a given, wasn't a necessity, but it happened and they thought it made sense to give it a visual realization.
To me, I think what Zabel meant is what we all got out of it, the kiss was absolutely unnecessary to the story, it doesn't change anything, but it was done to give the viewers a visual on how Daryl actually cared about these people, cause let's be honest, it's still pretty hard to believe he does care this much about these people he met like 2 months ago.
Anyways, Daryl hasn't stopped thinking about going home to Carol... and the others. That's still his main plan, but now he wants to take Isa and Laurent to the Commonwealth too...
But only after...
Isa tells him that in about a week, he's gonna leave them (holy, knowing what to say to trigger Daryl!) on a leap of faith so he can go back home. That's when he comes up with the idea to take them with him. You can't say this is not Daryl feeling guilty about leaving them behind. Hero complex activated!
An interesting quote from Daryl: "maybe that's all it was. Something that just kept you going." And I believe that fully explains Daryl's connection with these people - a thing that kept him going until he can find his way back home!
So, my personal feelings on all of this is that I'm totally unbothered about the kiss, the only thing that makes me go "are you fucking stupid" is Zabel having zero idea this will have such a big negative impact on the overall fandom. And NO, I'm not talking just about Carylers, or Donnies, I'm taking about Daryl stans who are lone wolfers, those who believe Daryl is demisexual or asexual, and so on. All of this, for absolutely NOTHING, for something the showrunner said wasn't a given or necessity. We already know, Daryl cares about people, he is capable of love, WE KNOW.
More spoilery thoughts to come...
And as someone who already watched the 6 whole episodes, I will say Caryl on! It's coming, slowly, but surely. Hang in there.
Ok. I understand people are upset and dislike the Daryl and Leah 2.0, but I can’t help but feel like no matter how small it may seem, we’re taking a baby step forward.
And I’m talking about the perception of Caryl’s relationship in general. Cause I’ve been hearing Carol and Daryl are absolutely just friends for ages. But there’s now a slight change in tune in some of the reviews…
… whatever is happening, it’s giving the idea and vibe that maybe perhaps there’s something more at work here. People are actually flirting with the idea that romantic caryl ain’t just fandom wishful thinking. And that's interesting...
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Anyways, I have a lot of thoughts, but simply no energy or time to get to it right now, because actual real life is kicking my butt, so just leaving this tiny bit of positivity here.
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not Justina with the "survivor's guilt" offering herself as a sacrifice right in front of Carol...
... while Roberto is starting to grow on Daryl. imagine when he gets home and finds Justina gone... Daryl be like "damn it, now we gonna have to delay those fucking hot dogs!"
i find it very interesting Carol and Daryl are right in the middle of not one but two starcrossed lovers stories. Roberto and Justina, but also Paz and Elena... there's a lot of parallels happening here...
NEVER, not even in my worst nightmares, I would have imagined what season 6 did to Caryl. NEVER. Each time I remember we only had one proper interaction this season (hello chin touch and hug) only to separate them again both emotionally and physically I get ill (let's try to ignore the Robin storyline shall we? I really feel sick when I think about that). And yes, why not say it, after five seasons of trolling and build up, I think I, as a fan of TWD, Carol, Daryl and Caryl have the right to feel cheated. And yes, I do think they owe us Caryl at this point. There, I said it.