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another comm I placed inspired by your gorgeous fic (I really am obsessed) and I truly do hope you like it! 🥰
https://x.com/laenaism/status/1821548075912933597?s=46&t=SwKAoQRSOrz31Ox-yTmUYQ
Thank you so much for sharing it. It is absolutely beautiful 😭🙌🏽
All credit to @hahghahthah on twitter
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The fact that you’d rather axe Nettles, the only canonically Black character, the only female dragonseed, the only non-Valyrian dragonseed, the only dragonseed who survives the Dance, Daemon’s redemption, a girl who comes from nothing yet ends up having a whole religion built around her—The fact that you’d rather axe the most important dragonseed and break her story up into little pieces to give to others(most of whom are undeserving of such development) thereby further escalating the nonsensical mess that is this show than just simply adapting her story like every other character in Fire & Blood…
Ryan Condal about Nettles:
“No comment on the characters we haven't met on screen YET. Stay tuned.”
She is likely coming in S3. Rhaena is not replacing her.
And she should’ve been here this season(which is why I refuse to watch this show or interact with this fandom until my baby shows up on my screen)
🖕🏽That’s for Ryan Comdal and all the others that know they are wrong for trying to bring in the most important dragonseed in s3.
I’ve always said that they can limit her, but they can’t fully replace her. Especially not with Rhaena, Addam, Baela, Alys Rivers, Daeron or anyone else these people want to say can replace her because her story is vastly different than the others.
Unpopular Opinion: Every time a black female character (especially if this black female character is dark skinned) enters into a relationship with the popular fan-favorite white male character usually one of three things happen a. the black female character is now headcanoned as a lesbian (never bisexual or queer or anything that would leave the character with the possibility of still entering into a relationship with a man) b. white male character is now shipped with other popular fan-favorite white male character/other white female character (the popular fan-favorite white male character is usually headcanoned to be bisexual and when he is, shipped with a woman that woman is always white) or c. black female character (and sometimes their actresses) is now being talked about as if they are the devil himself.
Wanting characters to explore their sexuality is fine but I always find it odd how this always happens when one member of the relationship is a black/blackish woman. *forgot to mention the suddenly polyamorous relationship the three (black female, white male and white male/woman) characters are now without a doubt in*
Anon you spoke nothing, but facts right here 🙌🏽
(The only thing I’d add is that they don’t just do this when the woman in question is with a white man, see Namor and Shuri and the backlash some shippers got for shipping them).
You aren’t the only one who has been noticing this trend.
I say trend loosely because really just a new stereotype to add to the bunch😒
It would be one thing if it was a want for actual representation, but every time now like clockwork. as soon as they see a Black woman who looks like she’s going to have a romantic arc with said popular fandom man, boom she must be gay😑
Hell, it’s getting so bad that these shows/movies are automatically just writing their Black women characters in that way.
If people can’t see how this can be harmful/dangerous, that’s cool, but anytime you want to paint all of a group a certain way and won’t show them in any other setting, that’s how you end up birthing new stereotypes.
This isn’t creating diversity. It’s limiting it(once again).
It’s so all or nothing with our media representation. Black women don’t want to be shown as one thing(which seems to go right over most people’s heads).
We just want the same opportunities as everybody else and not to be put into one or two narrow boxes of acceptable characterization that doesn’t threaten the status quo(aka you can't have Black women looking desirable especially not when there is an available white woman right there next to her).
Idk if you’ve seen s2 of hotd but it was so bad… im actually depressed about it because i was super attached to the story and they fucked up something that could have been insanely epic. How did they fumble this bad?? Like what actually happened.
No I haven’t seen s2(I made a vow and I’ve stuck with it), but from what I’ve gathered it doesn’t seem like a lot of people are happy with how it turned out. They did screw up royally considering the fact that they had the book(s) as their outline, but honestly the writing was on the wall with s1. Rarely do shows get better and s1 was absolutely atrocious. S2 which contained on the the trajectory of deviating from the books(like trying to axe Nettles)….it was doomed from the start.
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Streets are saying that Rhaena gets sheepstealer and nettles gets the cannibal 😒😒 it feels like the writers and producers are just making a fanfic tv series instead of going along with the books
Honestly, the only way this makes sense is if they actually planned on replacing Nettles with Rhaena(hence her claiming Sheepstealer) and George berated them so badly or they realized breaking her story up into a million pieces is a fucking stupid idea that they added in Nettles at the last minute, but yeah whatever they are doing they are fucking to majorly.
Show!Alicent and Show!Rhaenrya were never going to experience motherhood (or marriage for that matter) the same way, when you take into consideration that Alicent was forced to marry Viserys (Rhaneyra was technically forced to marry Laenor, but even then they had an arrangement and Rhaenyra still had power, whereas Alicent didn't have that power or that arrangment).
Alicent was forced to have her children (Rhaenyra willing had children with Harwin a man of her choosing and did not have to endure marital r@pe. Even though she and Laenor didn't want to have s!x they agreed they would until they had a child. Alicent on the otherhand is quite literally summoned by her husband for s!x. S!x that upon hearing she was being summoned for began crying and during said s!x mentally had to dissociate).
While of course people can still compare them it always annoys me when people specifically compare their relationships with their children because the context in how these children came to be is completely different (and the fact that this is only ever used to demean Alicent). Therefore how these mothers view their children is going to be completely different. This doesn’t mean that Alicent and Rhaenyra don’t love their respective children it just means that the dynamics they have with those children are going to be vastly different.
Not only that but the way Alicent and Rhaenyra themselves were raised and the relationships they have/had with their own mothers (and fathers) is also going to impact how they raise their children.
Nothing to add cause this is an excellent analysis. Wish more people would acknowledge their different positions(in life and situation) and keep that in mind when talking about their mothering, but this fandom is allergic to actual analysis🙃
This is apparently sheepstealer and it’s Rhaena who finds him, still praying nettles is just somewhere getting him more food.
Yeah there is still some hope Nettles might show up in s3 if Rhaena hasn’t claimed him. However, I think it’s safe to say Ryan Condal, Sara Hess, and all the rest are racist fucks hell bent on propping up their Valaryan queen of flops and don’t mind throwing Nettles out the window and replacing her with a more acceptable character that they race-bent for that reason….
