#aspect theory

Force and Grace

@dahniwitchoflight  and I just had a very interesting conversation about the nature of Aspects and how they are connected to one another. For the sake of posterity, I have attempted to make this copy+paste transcription available and legible. Enjoy. ... drakkoniss "these rings have been constantly associated with things of an opposing nature, and here they clearly as black and white also and they are called the rings of Life and Void" Those are not the same rings? dahniwitchoflight yes, but the ongoing theory is that they are going to become them lol drakkoniss Those two in particular, though, rather than the ones that came from the Alpha Kids session, which have no orbs on them?(Also, you've hit on some very interesting points, in your thoughts, there, about opposing aspects and stuff. drakkoniss I feel there is something one must consider: If you are to look at the Aspects as a whole, they can be grouped into groups of 3. The ones you are concerned with are those associated with Birth/Creation and Death/Destruction, which are Light, Space, and Life, as well as Void, Time, and DOOM, respectively.The other two groups are more about the core of the person, their relationships, and their emotional states. dahniwitchoflight actually if you were going to group them at all, it would be in pairs or in 4's not in threes drakkoniss Oh?  dahniwitchoflight and people ahve already mentioned that life doom is confirmed by calliope as well, but i like to keep doorways open incase things change lol  drakkoniss Why groups of 4? dahniwitchoflight lik opposing pairs, and then pairs that are close with other pairs, for instacne Time/Space and Light/Void, or Light/Void and Life/Doom bevause that is also how the classes are grouped witch/heir and seer/mage etc drakkoniss No, no, I mean like... three sets of pairs, which together represent main concepts that are linked.One side gets half of each pair, and the other group of 3 is their paired partners. dahniwitchoflight in that case it would be groups of 6, not 3   drakkoniss Thus Light would be in one group, and Void would be in the other. dahniwitchoflight Void, Life, Space, Hope, Heart and Breath, versus Light, Doom, Time, Rage, Mind and Blood one side representing creation or chaos, the other destruction or law drakkoniss I mean... Yes, you could say they form a SUPERGROUP that is the opposed Life/Death pairing... You see, I wouldn't want to include all of the aspects like that. dahniwitchoflight oh? any reason in parictula why? particular*  drakkoniss Albeit I actually agree that that is a theme worth pointing out... Because Rage and Hope don't necessarily have anything to do with life and death. Neither do Mind and Heart, necessarily. The same goes for Blood and Breath.Those are more about interpersonal connections and a person's state of being. dahniwitchoflight Hope is Creation of reality, bringing things into existence, as well as you can point out they have weird sexual associations at times, and that directs relates to life drakkoniss YES, there is an order/chaos bias between them: Blood vs. Breath, for instance, but also take this into account: The Life/Death group is Order/Chaos neutral. dahniwitchoflight rage then also is limitations and being held back, stuff you cant avoid and that is very doomlike as well drakkoniss Even DOOM is actually a mix of both Order and Chaos. dahniwitchoflightLife is extremely chaot      is and doom is extreely lawful Doom has exploson yes, but they are strict explosions with counters ticking down and things you cannot avoid lawful destruction life on the other hand is all about power and doing your own thing and not being beholden to what others want, its privlege and wealth and being on top and its also childlike in nature, like a bratty spoiled kid drakkoniss I can see what you mean. dahniwitchoflightor at times naive those two are the ones i associate as starting the whole chaotic/lawful  divide lol  drakkoniss Hmmm... (This has been a long debate of mine, by the way. Whether Aspects should be parsed this way. )   dahniwitchoflight i think  you can if you want, but its not really important because then people get hung up on putting them into good or evil categories and that isnt the point  drakkoniss It's complicated. (And yes, I agree. )   dahniwitchoflight  Creation is Chaos, Destruction is Lawful. But you can have good creation, bad creation, good chaos, bad chaos, good destruction bad destruction and etc etc drakkoniss I know, and I would not argue otherwise. dahniwitchoflight  another way i used to divide them up is into quadrants, 4 dealing with things of a personal nature or that create individuals, Heart/Mind/Breath/Blood literally Soul/Mind/Body  drakkoniss  Maybe it is just one pair that's neutral, and I was assuming a bias because I haven't thought of this in a long time.. dahniwitchoflight then higher up things dealing with the creation of the universe into reality Space/Time/Hope/Rage and then the final four Life/Doom/Light/Void being the laws and rules of reality and things that givern it dahniwitchoflight  govern* drakkoniss  I think your ideas concerning grouping them are good. But at the same time, I feel... there probably can and should be multiple correct groupings, because each Aspect deals with a vast variety of topics. Like Time and Space can be literally the fabric of the universe, but then you have to arrange them differently if they're life and death. dahniwitchoflight  yeah of course, i dont really think theres one right way to do it    as long as they make sense are are balanced yknow?which is why groups of 3 just dont feel right to me personally, cuz there inherently unbalance drakkoniss  *nods* This should... probably be actually made into a post, this conversation. dahniwitchoflight  but thats just me lol     i think i have before lol     somewhere anyway drakkoniss  Why would groups of 3 need to be unbalanced? dahniwitchoflight  not need to be, i think they just would be, they would be biased towards one side, because two of them will find something in common that they dont have with the thrid    i dont think they can be equally neutral with eachother, and if they were i dont see a need to group them together drakkoniss  Well, think of it this way: One can form an aspect with two others. Hope can be called an intersection of Light and Heart, for example. dahniwitchoflight  but hope also has its own things that still cant be accounted for with either heart or light    its like fusion classpects with garnet, i say ruby is light and sapphire is doom, and garnet fuses on an aspect level, and the closest thing you could get to some    thign shared between doom and light is time, but its not 100%, there are still things unique to time or garnet that arent in either of her partsshe is her own person as well as a fusion drakkoniss  I know. But all the Aspects blend together and interact with one another, meaning overlap is necessary. Each is unique, but you cannot describe a Form without using the likeness of other Forms to compare to it, no? dahniwitchoflight  the thing is though that is correct, you can find intersections between all aspects, hope isnt just between light and heart with no others, they share euqal boundaries and things in common with all other aspects     and if all those are equal, why put heart and light higher?and this is true for all twelve, they are like if you had a color system with twelve primary colors, and each could mix with each to form their own secondary colors/things they have in common drakkoniss  (One second. ) drakkoniss  Because each aspect can be seen co-equally as part of the makeup of the others. drakkoniss  Light can be suggested to be between Hope and Space. Light is information and knowledge pulled out of what was originally nothing, only possible by the existence of an actual medium and reality to gleam the information from.   dahniwitchoflight  yes, but this is true for all 11 other aspects in regards to one aspect, hope shares an equal amount with all other 11, just like other aspects share an equal amount, so my question is why put light and heart as closer to hope if they arent?same with any combo or trio drakkoniss  Because one could argue that certain concepts are intrinsically closer to one another than other concepts are. dahniwitchoflight  with the only exception being their actual opposite, but even then you can find a boundary of things they both deal with     example? drakkoniss  Time and Breath are some distance apart, whereas if you say that Life and Breath are close to one another with much more accuracy. Likewise with Time and DOOM. dahniwitchoflight  things time and breath have in common, an ability to be abstracted into the meta of something, to exist outside of physical barriers    the nonphysical abstract nature of something    life and breath can also be very different, life is extremely concerned with power, versus breath wanting an equality of peers     life wants to dominate, breath wants to permeate    and i can find examples for all combos you throw at me lolso my question is, what makes time and breaths similarirites less important and breath and lifes? drakkoniss  (And this is why we are having this discussion. Debate is key for furthering of understanding and the proving and disproving of key concepts and arrangements)   dahniwitchoflight  i think though you can see how i view it now tho lol     in my witch of lighty nature i am rejecting importance as heirarchy and instead putting forth importance as uniqueness:P drakkoniss  I shall concede that it is simply a matter of perspective and opinion, I suppose. (Yes.) Anyway, though, I suppose this is a good enough place to end our exploration of grouping concepts. Tumblr's wheels never stop turning, and whatnot. (And as a Knight of Heart, I use both my personal passions and my penchant towards Mind to help expand and further our efforts toward understanding. )

I don’t know what to do with Rage, Doom, Life, or Time yet, but then Rage has so many ambiguities bound up in the Makaras, while Doom is nigh untouched by the fleeting graces of the plot’s attention. Life and Time are bound for more love, but don’t have really obvious deeper non-literal aspects depending on what the narrative wants to do with those.

~Witch of Mind

And the show keeps playing them as opposites.

Inspires change in others' being. Allows them to find new and better parts of themselves, and leave unhealthy parts behind.

It's so stupid....that it's amazing.