An article I posted on Pillowfort (Linked to avoid getting zapped by Tumblr's dumb search filters) about an article saying it was about AI art that was really about Vocaloids and "secondary creatives," why it annoyed me, the nature of art and auteurism, and why it matters.

But like I really appreciate their lack of weird elitism around it, I think there's like an au version of me that's fucking insufferable (especially am thinking this considering a certain leftist journalist is low key an au version of me lol)

I vaguely remember @motherboxing talking about art production and attitudes around it. Like about people who ultimately treat art as a job and it's like, interesting. Because literally the amount of things my dad has written is a running joke to some people, and I think that's how you know you made it in the category where some jagoff is going to talk about your "craftsmanship vs artistic merit" lol. I have definitely met artsnobs who were clearly fucking annoyed that he wasn't someone who publishes a book in ten years.

I mean, I’d say that “creators of 18+ material don’t deserve compensation for their labor” is far worse.

So, a question for folks actually making an actual living off their art: How the fuck do I address that? Like, how the fuck do I convince them that supporting my work there is going to be worth it?

Like, thinking of examples, my dad’s writing off my Patreon as a career option because “You’ve been working on it for two years and you haven’t even gotten close to making enough to live on,” and @bogleech and @bonelessnerd have both mentioned personal stories of their parents being wildly out of touch with the amounts of resources/access it takes to get one’s art on mainstream store shelves.

I wonder how much of that sort of experience of parents being out of touch with how artistic labor works is universal; in a way that royally fucks over a lot of people in a business that requires massive amounts of unpaid labor just to gain some degree of success by convincing the people who support them that it should happen a lot quicker than it does and if it doesn’t it’s not worth supporting because it’s not a “real job”