What you said about Rob being marginalised in this crappy plot is so true and makes me so sad:(, look I get Robron is no fairytale and they're messed up always have been but did they really have to make it quite so bad? When I first saw this I was like ok Aaron's messed and so has Robert this can be worked out but really they way they made Robert look and choices like the mill just made him look 10x worse? did they really have to make it so nasty.
Oh, nonnie, this ask just went epic.
Alright this answer got away from me so you know if you have stuff to do tl;dr
Looking at it from their point (the writers), they don’t think they did anything wrong because I get the sense that their INTENTION was that they equally messed up. That Robert’s horrible choice was equally as bad as Aaron. I think their intention was to bring to light those issues that they never resolved after the Kasim incident: Robert’s fear of never being good enough and never being able to make Aaron happy; Aaron’s fear that Robert would be unfaithful. He was sure of it even when Robert insisted he wouldn’t (and he meant that). Robert was sure that he couldn’t make Aaron happy even when it was obvious that Robert leaving would break Aaron.
It’s almost like self-fulfilling prophecies. If you think something is going to happen (Rob believing he wasn’t good enough no matter how hard he tried; Aaron never believing Robert wouldn’t cheat) then eventually, it’s going to happen. Let’s be honest, so much of this stems from how they began: the affair. AND MAYBE if I had more faith in ED, I would say that THIS IS WHAT this is about; Robert has betrayed his vows and Aaron (whether you full on call it cheating or not). But it wasn’t out of desire or want or need. (He isn’t looking for someone other than Aaron.) It was out of losing Aaron. I mean it’s incredibly fucked up but there you have it.
This time, however, Robert’s reactions after are completely different. He feels horrible and guilty (something that never happened with Chrissie). He was going to actually tell the truth even though he really didn’t want to because he doesn’t want to hurt Aaron or lose him (something that never occurred to him with Chrissie). He is taking full responsibility and not trying to blame this on anyone else; he knows he has just hurt so many people he loves: Aaron, Chas, Liv (something that never happened through the affair era because Rob was too self-involved to consider anyone else). He fully admits he doesn’t deserve Aaron and in his mind never did (something he said about Chrissie once but didn’t mean because that Robert believed he was entitled to have what he wanted, this one knows that’s not true ).
All that has happened since Rebecca got here was to get us here. If they can deal with those issues, they have a chance of turning this story on its head.
This time, Robert had tried so hard and though Aaron saw it and knew it, there was that part inside him that lived through the affair, through The Lodge, through the scrapyard confrontation and can’t quite believe it. I mean the beginning of their coming back together was difficult because any wrong foot that Robert made – whether accidental or on purpose – had Aaron kicking him out. That was his gut reaction because of all they’d been through. And yes, things changed slowly and he let Robert in but as soon as Rebecca came into the equation, all of that came rushing back, all of it, and this time it was worse because now he knows what it is like to have all of Robert’s affections and love and attention on him. His mind keeps going there again and again. No matter how much Robert shows him he loves him, tells him he loves him, Aaron thinks Rob has one foot out of the door, just waiting. Robert spent the better part of the year ignoring that. Ignoring that Aaron didn’t believe in him because he doesn’t think he deserves that. It’s been in recent months that Robert has allowed himself to get angry about it and actually speak up. January being that moment where he just couldn’t anymore.
Then everything happened and Robert had to step up and be that awesome guy regardless of what Aaron, his family, Paddy thought. He did it too. He was doing it. And then Aaron chose the drugs over him and Liv. And every single time that Robert felt marginalised came back to him.
Here’s the thing: this was all in the actual narrative. I’m not making it up.
Maybe the execution was the problem more than anything. It was just misery after misery. We as a fandom didn’t see them together except for 2-3 minutes. They felt disconnected (they are supposed to), they felt alone and we felt that way with them. They need that constant connection, where they can look at each other, talk to each other, touch each other. Without that, they flounder and fail.
Aaron was reaching his breaking point long before prison, it was just the thing that sent him over the edge and he broke. He took drugs and choice to deal with his pain that way rather than holding on to Rob and Liv. Ultimately, it was losing Robert, like he thought he had, that pulled Aaron back into himself and made him realize what he was going to lose.
Robert’s breaking point has been quieter and subtler because he doesn’t let his emotions show as easily but they did an excellent job at getting him there, and I do love that it wasn’t played as a breakdown in tears but a complete and total loss of willingness to go on. Rob was completely done. There was nothing left without Aaron, even Liv wasn’t enough to keep him going without Aaron. Somewhere in Robert, he already felt like he failed Aaron long before he made the idiotic choice of getting drunk and sleeping with someone else.
Where they lost the audience was with the way they executed it. It was cheap drama (though awesomely acted by Ryan and Danny) and it just threw everyone for a loop. Having spent weeks without them being them, Aaron being someone else, Rob going crazy, no loving interactions between them for more than a few minutes, no communication, that scene on Thursday was OUR breaking point.
They have been playing the long game with this for a while and sometimes they forget that the audience doesn’t always remember everything that came before and how it plays into the now. That might have been a major flaw in this plan. (Or I could be giving them too much credit, who knows.)
Again, if I didn’t already feel pretty burned by that I would be more hopeful (and somewhere deep inside I probably am) that this was also their point.
Will they be able to fix it? It really all depends on what happens next and how the handle the fallout and the reconstruction of it all. Can they do it? Honestly, I don’t know. However, they brought me SSW, Robron reunion, the wedding, the abuse storyline, Holly’s death, Emma’s amazing characterization, Pierce and Rhona’s insidious domestic abuse, Ashley’s dementia, Rob’s development, Olivia Flaherty, Faith Dingle, pub quizzes, awesome women friendships, book clubs that make me happy….so I am going to try to believe a little bit harder in them.
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Hate Dair. Whatever. Not everyone loves all ships. But don't hate on Dan in such an awful way.
Okay, so I was checking out the Dan Humphrey tag because my love for this man knows no bounds, when I came across a long post basically throwing a shit load of hate Dan's way. Not even Dair hate. This person was mostly respectful about the ship. No. The hate was all for Dan. They said Dan was selfish, a liar, a manipulator, and just generally awful, and the fact that he finally told Blair how he felt was a horrible move on his part.
Their reasoning is Blair, of course. That Blair is vulnerable and fragile right now, that she could lose everything right now, etc.. And they bring in Chuck and Serena as well. That Dan was awful to Serena and her feelings. That at least you know who Chuck is, etc.
Look, yes, Dan is lying about sending in that video. But honestly, compared to some of the things Chuck has done, it doesn't even compare. I love Dan. I love Chuck. But I would pick Dan over Chuck any day of the week. Yea, we know who Chuck is, he doesn't hide it. It doesn't mean that Chair should happen again. He said it once, a long time ago, him and Blair only bring out the worst in each other.
And this person also said 'What about Blair's happiness?' This OP questions whether Dan even cares for Blair at all. ARE WE EVEN WATCHING THE SAME SHOW? Dan has been there for Blair, no questions asked, for months. He's been by her side, her friend, her confidante. Did you not here Blair's little speech in the Valentine's episode? Talking about how great of a friend Dan is. And for once, just once, Dan sees a chance for him to be happy, for him to take a chance, and he kisses Blair. And he realized that, while he loves being her friend, he can't just be that anymore. Because it's killing him. He loves her so much and he wants her to be happy too. But only having one person happy wouldn't end well. And Dan wants a little happiness too. And he gets that, when Blair tells him that she likes him back in the recent episode.
And yes, Serena is hurt. I get that. But Serena has known for awhile now that Dan loves Blair. That is not a secret. Serena was more hurt by Blair in this episode, because Serena didn't feel like Blair was being honest with her. And yes, she was hurt by Dan and Blair kissing. But I really don't see how this shows that Dan is an awful person to Serena.
And you know what, yes..Blair is going to be upset that Dan posted that video. But I do not think Dair will be over forever when she finds out. So, just go away with your Dan hate and STOP TAGGING THAT SHIT YOU ASSHOLES.
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