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Comfort bc I like his voice. unless heās talking about his erotic onslaught, then itās MASSIVE DISCOMFORT NEVER SAY THAT PHRASE AGAIN EDWIN
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EDWIN EFFING ODESSEIRON
Comfort bc I like his voice. unless heās talking about his erotic onslaught, then itās MASSIVE DISCOMFORT NEVER SAY THAT PHRASE AGAIN EDWIN

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Firstly, I'm glad to read you again. We come and we go, such like inspiration and ideas - being stuck inside just one universe is never enough. Secondly, there's one (of many) detail in Ragnarok that baffled me. Hela draws her power from Asgard. Asgard is not a place, it's people. They're diminished and in exile now, but assuming they'll rebuild, it seems to be a very cruel sort of trap - die out, or release the monster again. I wonder what your thoughts on that are.
Iāve been thinking a lot about this, because Helaās actions and Odinās words seem to confirm that itās Asgard-the-place that gives her her power, sheāll be limitless once she gets there, sheās ready to kill every single Asgardian person to get the Bifrost sword, sheāll risk her life to fight Surtur at full strength rather than go with the Asgardian people.Odin says,Ā āAsgard is not a place, never was.Ā This place could be Asgard.Ā Asgard is where our people stand.āĀ Itās Thor and Heimdall who later say,Ā āAsgard is not a place, itās a people.āĀ Are they correct?Ā Or are they slightly misinterpreting what Odin said?We all know the real answer is,Ā āThe writers are just throwing up what makes for a good theme, rather than good worldbuilding.ā but it still kind of itches at me.POSSIBLY, while I donāt think theyāve mentioned it in the movies themselves, what weāre dealing with is the Odinforce.Ā The Thor junior novelization (of the first movie) says:
Alas, Odin had no more time left to teach. He was growing weaker by the day. Soon, he would need to enter the Odinsleep, during which he would be unable to rule, his body in a state of suspended animation while he used the powerful Odinforce to rejuvenate.
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When he arrived at the Vault, his assumptions were proven true. He found Thor, with Sif and the Warriors Three, staring at the remains of a great battle. Two Asgardian sentries lay on the floor, frozen solid. Towering above them stood the Destroyer, Odinās deadliest weapon. It was a suit of armor, three times the size of a man, animated by the mystical Odinforce.Ā Ā When a threat to Odin or Asgard was felt, the Destroyer would awaken, and the Odinforce would burn bright, laying waste to anyone or anything that got in its way.
and itās mentioned two more times that the flames from the Destroyer were from the Odinforce.Ā But this is the onlyĀ place Iāve ever seen the Odinforce mentioned in relation to the movies.Ā (I flipped through the first Thor artbook for the Destroyer section and the Odin section and itās not mentioned in either of those places.)The Odinsleep however isĀ mentioned and so Iām tentatively willing to accept that the Odinforce might exist, but that still leaves us with the question of--is it a place or a people?Ā Odinās words + Helaās actions weigh towards it being a place, Thor had to destroy AsgardĀ to save the people, because that was the source of Helaās power.Ā Thorās words + Heimdallās words weigh towards it being a people.But Odinās words are hard to parse, Hela might just have fixed Asgard in her mind as the symbol of what she felt she was owed, Thor and HeimdallĀ might have been comforting themselves that the people were worth more than the power.Ā And suchĀ narrative weight was put onĀ āAsgard is not a place, itās a people.ā that it seems against the point to just dismiss it.Thereās no real answer to this, we donāt know what the power source is, and without that, we canāt know if itās a cruel trap or just the way things are or even if itās nothing at all, itās just a metaphor the movie wanted to use.Ā Iām vaguely hopeful the Ragnarok artbook might shed some light on this or at least give us a clue, but itās still just under a week awaaaaaaaay.And Iām REAL curious to see what Thorās powers will be like during Infinity War. I assume theyāll still have the eyepatch and no hammer, but will he still have the lightning?Ā Asgard was still standing while he had those powers, we didnāt see him use them after Asgard fell, so we canāt know.Iām just going to write it up as:Ā Many Asgardians have some innate power (especially in Odinās line), but thereās alsoĀ an Odinforce that puts them over the top if they have access to it, which was situated where Asgard was, at the nexus of the branches of Yggradsil.Ā Thatās why they chose the spot in the first place, thatās why the Bifrost was there, thatās why fragments of those other (less stable) passageways were there (like the one that they used to get to Svartalfheim, those were smaller versions of the bigger branches), because there was a magic there that Odin tapped into.Ā But once he died, it would pass to the next person in his line--Hela, then Thor, as they draw their power from the same place.
Tea asks: Ginger, Chamomile!
Ginger: Favourite colour(s)Black, Grey, Pink, Dark Maroon
Chamomile: Comfort movie?Around the holidays, the Lord of the Rings trilogy is always on in the background when my family does anything. I pretty much know all of Fellowship of the Ring by heart at this point.Ā
ancientwinters replied to your post: Tangerine and fuchsia is a perfect set, isn't it...
Iām in Iceland :] close to where they filmed some of Thor: The Dark World :P
holy crap that's awesome!! Is it pretty out there??? I love Iceland
ancientwinters replied to your photoset: Nothing, sometimes itās nice to sit peacefully...
First thought: V is doodling Dornās caricature :P
I donāt think heās drawn a thing in his life, except for scribbly maps with a surprisingly accurate sense of scale

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Got this ine in the mail today. A bit strange to recieve a #christmas album in #july. Still, it's a great collection of songs! I have added all of them to my christmas channel!
ancientwinters replied to your post: If Valdir wasn't a sorcerer, what class would he...
WELL I guess high Con guarantees an alchemistās survive for longerā¦
In the end, itās not about your stats. Itās about what you feel in your heart.
Valdir feels explosions and destruction.
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ā¦are they still? I assumed youāre playing EE and they fixed at least this :/
I got the official HD swords and shields mods at least?