ok the whole blame game and that the critics and social media talking about Carol and saying “would u blame her?” and basically telling us what we should think and feel. 🙄
 I just feel that whole thing is weird. I think it’s because it’s a story. There’s people who wanna watch a character rise and fall and rise again. It’s also depends how the writers will do it..which is partly like “do you (still) trust the writers?” “Do you still think the character is still in-character?” If yes, then just wait and see how it plays out. Maybe the character will come around. I mean to me personally s9-Carol was the worst...I hated it because I feel she was the most out of character of Carol. So.. lol. But right now, IMO, I still feel Carol is in-character. I still think the writers have a plan on that she’s in this revenge arc and at her worst. And making mistakes and she cares-she cried ...that she’s like oh shit my TF is injured and I’m messing things up but want this revenge so bad. I think ep 9 is her breaking point.Â
The whole blame game from fandom/social media is like the fans don’t have the control on this story...and every fan have their bias and opinion. So what. It’s like Idc what you guys think. It’s up to me if I feel writers are consistent and Carol is still in-character. It’s up to my opinion.Â
If it’s all in real life and not a story(with arcs, plots, character development ..life is everything and unpredictable) I would say hey Carol don’t get involved in these missions or I would tell her if she’s so determined to kill Alpha and not focusing on her loved ones, I need to have my space and avoid Carol. I don’t need drama in my life like that. So I guess in that way Daryl will be doing similar to that. If Carol cares that Daryl is walking away, that shows she cares about Daryl/TF more than Alpha/revenge. And that would be a good thing for Carol’s story/character development.Â
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i don’t like that im realizing t$df, the forum is biased on anything like character death. I mean the real spoilers they get(screeners, leaks) are real or we get them early whatever. And we know the forum is very anti Carol/CaryI.Â
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I just thought they would be upfront and honest with C0nnie’s fate. The fandom needs everyone..they need Carol fans too to find evidence. So on that forum it’s like the ones who are saying “hey idk about C0nnie’s fate” -it’s coming from Carol fans or looks like it. It looks like CaryI/Carol fans harping and rubbing salt on wounds onto the others.
It sucks I just thought they would be neutral and respectful..listen to everyone. Instead they’re biased..and kept going into the denial road. And not listening to any Carol fans. Which I realized I get it, the C/D0nnie fans don’t trust any Carol fans. I thought they would be open-minded but fandom is not and so they gonna ignore Carol fans on what they say.
ETA. I realized that since the forum is biased/anti CaryI fandom, think of it as a group of C0nnie/D0nnie fans there. The spoiler is about C0nnie’s fate and LR filming schedule n stuff. People want to want to hear bad news only from their friends. For example, Carol is rumored to die and we don’t know MMB will be in the show, CaroI fans don’t wanna hear it from the anti’s spoilers and evidence of the spoilers. Carol fans would want to hear bad news from their friends/Carol fans because of trust and knowing they’re not trolling. So, I guess I understand where they’re coming from.
If my fave character will die I want true answers. No wishywashy denial answers. I think it doesn’t matter tho for me with spoilers and stuff. Because I just know I will look everywhere. Look on one side and the other sides of the fandom to decide what I think is true. ...I wouldn’t just assume, be cocky, be nasty, and then, if be wrong, play victim. So, just go with ur gut. Till when the ep comes.Â
I guess I care about this character death thing because I feel bad for ones who have to wait 3 months or a week for to know when ur fave character will die or not. (But it’s mostly gonna be coming from their friends, not me-CaryIer)Â
It’s hard to wait and can go crazy. I’ve been in that boat before. I thought T$DF/fandom would handle it well but so far they’re not, IMO. I think if anyone’s worried about their fave character they will search up and know something is up with their fave. (All C0nnie fans on the web know something is up.) It’s up to them to handle how and when the time comes. And that really just go with your gut and look at all different perspectives.Â
--eta. i just idk what’s really bothering me. I think it’s just the fandom and how they are. T$df (forum) is biased and not neutral so (there’s “carol” forum and other forums out there) ..there’s a lot of petty shit going on. Forums and twitter is alike or everyones on their crappy trash talk to each other. No one’s sharing and seeing the big picture of what’s going on/what’s the closest true spoiler is. C0nnie/D0nnie fans don’t wanna hear it from CaryIers.
I feel like I wanna help the fandom and fix it. But ..like all fandoms there’s always drama. So.. I need to not be so involved in it. Idk. I feel like if Cnnie dies or not ..that’s a breaking point on the (small-after s9)fandom/T$df..they’re gonna totally be more of dick to Carol fans. ... :( But then again they already (generalizing) hate us. So.. avoid fandom...stick with ur friends.
Anyway I know the sp rumor of 9-10. Basically both forums don’t know anything and just guessing and its based on luck. I still don’t how things work out and stuff. We’ll see soon.Â
OT----I also wanna say the other day I remembered that when speculating a LOT and it leads to people to depend on it. Speculating is fun but thinking of ur theory so long and depending on ur theory is not good. Always gotta still be open-minded on other spoilers and directions where the story could go. I’m also saying that Idc about the show ...and know the show will end dumb ...low ratings or something. The show already “ended” when Rick left or s7f. I care a bit of the show/CaryI but ..meh. So if CaryI doesn’t happen or be weird, I’m like whatever the show ended on s7.
And it’s not the end of the world when it’s not canon on the ship/character/story. hello, fanfiction. story is a story.
anyway its sad to see some R ship stans being petty and rooting for a ABC ship so then R ship can still be #1 and Mlchonne can still be #1. They hate CaroI and C@ryl.Â
eh why? Why not ship both or focus loving on one ship. It sucks. I can tell they’re kinda spiteshipping cos they would not talk about it again till the next appearance in the new ep. Their main ship is R ship or hating C@ryl (those ones-wtf move on from your anger pls.). I know Carol isn’t a fave to everyone but like c’mon this show is not a competition on who is the #1 or last standing character in the show. It’s a story. Anyway, R shippers/abcers ...like I would say the show now is not what it is anymore obviously. So I would quit the show if nothing interests u.Â
The movies are gonna happen and so focus on that ok.Â
i keep posting of these things. I guess I keep messing it up. We’re human. ok.
im just all fed up with it. im tired of it. but hey it’s hiatus and i think it’s fine for now. Just gotta ignore the fandom wank or those stans/twitter(seriously twitter is the worst place to see the wank). really i don’t need the fandom that much ukno. just do stuff I enjoy. Just be me. Nice shippers are still around. The crappy shippers/stans are a few and loud.
I think there’s something with the two forums going on...with the C0nnie spoilers and shippers. It’s really weird.
first of all, i know people saying they’re stans like it’s a super fan and positive way. But really stans of somethings/someone, those stans are so annoying. I don’t think stans are a good thing. Or people who generalize and single out things of their fave and then trash others..is not cool. Most “shipwars” are about the shippers/grudges on the shippers. I don’t understand why some stans treat their faves like gods when eh their human/fictional. I also feel like I don’t know this fan. It reminds me of the show Bones, when Brennan’s cousin (sis) identity was like all about what and who Benjamin Franklin is. Um yeah I ..gotta stay away from twitter.
Sharing is caring. No one said you have to be a fan of one ship or one character. Generalizing a group of shippers will not make peace; u gonna make more fights. Block the crappy immature ones. It’s a story. Characters grow, writers may fail or have something great in plan. It’s not a game; a character doesn’t win/out-fame the world. It’s an ensemble show/Hollywood business. Anyway I’m tired of people shitting others when they don’t know them really. Sigh ..it just sucks. I like C ship and R ship but I can’t interact/talk anyone cos not a lot of people are fan of both ships or fan/openminded/not shitting of everyone. (but I guess that’s how fandom works.) Funny thing on the forum, if I wanna talk about R ship, the shippers don’t wanna see it.. or something. They’re thinking like stans already. They’re all generalizing or so. Idk. The haters going wtf and the whole “liking post” thing ..kinda like some popularity drama. It all goes awkward. I mean for me it’s awkward to see it and don’t wanna join along the discussion. There’s the whole hive mind thing going/generalizing. I stg (twitter) drama is so weird and immature. It’s like a gang fight but like it’s story and everyone’s get their focus. (seriously i was talking about R ship on the forum and hoping it goes well and the other R shipper(this person is always rude btw) assumes I was being a fake and sarcastic. That sucks. And some fans have really bad anger issues..like I worry about them as humans ..they need to let it go. You don’t have to argue..be fools. Sometimes my hopes for a story or a ship doesn’t always come out the way I wanted and I just deal with it and move on. )
ok so idk some R stans are like must be d-con shippers or think C shippers are all the bad things when sldkfjlsj it’s just dumb competitive fighting and vs. Just stop. Why are people always wanna a win an argument. (be cocky and play victim). ugh wtf. Seriously I see both sides of those shippers and these people all are similar in their beliefs/politics irl. Anyway, so I just think don’t get to invested in fandom/friends. Everyone got a list of different ships.Â
And I think forums are like easily to get upset at. Everyone’s reading ur comment, people tend to want to argue/debate every little thing, and mods like no that’s off topic go here. Ugh. lol So eh forums.. Anyway ..so I’m just saying if ya wanna vent go to twitter or tumblr. idk.Â
Anyway I noticed T$DF is ukno anti Carol/Caryl most of the time. Most antis go there. And there’s the zone forum which is very pro Caryl forum. It’s like T$DF is missing out the C fans of the fandom and therefore missing some info. It’s weird. So when we’re getting more info that LR isn’t in s10B that much, the fans from the zone or/and, others who are thinking logically,(like they want facts and spoilers and not being shippy/biased), were getting frustrated that T$DF isn’t really saying that C*nnie isn’t in 10B that much. Usually people would put her in the death watch as in 50/50 way. Rosita was already talked about and stuff because of the actress’s show, but not C0nnie? So in a way, it’s like T$DF is being in denial or biased. I guess it is but still nothing really confirmed about C0nnie’s fate, and the spoilery fans already know in their heads that it’s 50/50 with her fate. So when the other fans and Carol fans who are just wanting to bring C0nnie’s fate up (in a logical way I’m assuming) because ep 8 and 9 are coming soon and to warn others I guess, but T$DF and antis don’t wanna hear it and assume the other fans (mostly Carol fans out about) are being petty and bringing it up because of the D ship, etc. When it’s like T$DF are being emotional about it and like being in denial. Yeah I also think the fans discussing in the death thread..it’s gonna be a rough thread to read in no matter what. People are gonna speculate ur fave will die. But *some people who said it, doesn’t mean they think they WANT that character to die. Some people are thinking with facts and spoilers about it and speculating ur fave will die. But whatever, I guess it’s depends on the group on the forum and how everyone treat each other. I think some fans from T$DF, who are C0nnie fans, already got info in mind and so it’s up to them to decide what to do with it. I don’t wanna keep mentioning it or bringing drama. They already know what’s up so, ok.
For me, I want to know the spoilery facts and keep it logically. Rip the bandaid. Being in denial isn’t gonna be good in the long run and for the fans.Â
BTW, C0nnie was like 70% dead (with the Zone’s spoiler) but now with that reviewer’s tweet hinting? at Bowl’s filming summary post, and T$DF can’t confirm(doesn’t know it) the spoiler that Zone had. I guess it’s stuck in 50/50. so ok whatever.Â
I’m gotta say a character dying in the mid season is the worst, I realized. It’s easy to fall into that trap of hoping and wishing for the fave to make it out. I’m glad Carol isn’t part of this death theory so far. I guess forums tend to be biased because of like what the group is like.Â
it’s annoying how people generalize because that always makes more arguments or ship wars. so...ok.
when people say “these A shippers are mean.” It’s always like true AND false. Because they’re generalizing. And it doesn’t mean B shippers are better...healthier..smarter. ( a ship goes canon;” their shippers are smart etc”. NOPE. lol Just lucky.)
 It’s ahh it’s just there’s bad apples on both sides and each ship of shippers. So just block the rude ones. “the A shippers are mean...etc and does this and that etc.” I’m like what? I didn’t do those things. If someone did one of those things I would block the person ukno. So. sigh yeah. argh i hate hive mind talk too.Â
I see this stuff all the time. And the competitiveness. Eh. It’s always pro-boy fandom of girl fans. women hating on women kinda thing. zzz
 We all got opinions. Can’t change people’s minds about it. So scroll on. (no one got the same list of ships with someone else)
eta. yeah these ship wars are always actually being shipper wars.
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Bored and petty. That forum is just not for me (and I don’t like how the mods don’t stop the fights and bullies). wow wtf lol abc’ers really go at it. I’m surprised about the R ship’s # of posts/thread but i think they’re 2nd place from last fall and they had their own forum tittd. it’s like deartv/twdzone for the carylers(imo).Â
whatever. If fandom is full of shippers, then that forum is full of anti-carylers.
-i love R and C ships. There’s so many Daryl-ships lol. I don’t ship a lot and I care a few.
*eta. 5 days later, D0nnie thread has now the most # of posts. lol short timed ships being popular. (its daryl tho thats why) It’s funny to me. I think I would have liked D0nnie. But pssssh, C ship 5ever and it make sense to me characterize and I like ship that build up their relationship for awhile/slowburn.
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hmm it seems like some the ABC/Ders were B3thylers. (actually the first anti caryl ship is Daryl/Andrea) So what I don’t get is that if my fave character died and therefore the ship aint happening. idk I would like not watch the show anymore. I would be disinterested in it. So Idk how these fans kept going. But I get it that it’s hard to quit a show or still love some parts of the other characters, theme, and ships. Also, it seems like some shippers are like spite-shipping ..when they could just not do it. You don’t have to do it since you’re a shipper. Ship what u really like and what gives u feels. But i get that there’s some shippers who ship everything and be a multi-shipper. lolÂ
*idk ...I just ignore the fandom ( equals fans’ opinions). Follow the nice people.
*i was bored and looked at the stans’ comments. really it’s the stan shippers/faves that are like O_O so dramatic and petty. And they want their fave to be #1!!!one! Eh. omg why not both(or more)? Both sides act the same. Just stop looking into drama. It’s unhealthy. ugh this drama is like in real life too.Â
*sometimes I say fandomwank is there cos we’re bored. :P
its been such a wild 3 days of learning about this finale spoiler on C/E breakup. I realized in fandom it’s full of shipper stans. the spoiling forum lol is all gloom which means they don’t care about caryl/ers. And how i see based on writings and signs, sometimes wait for answers or that’s (new) showrunners’ style. like what i kinda suspected, C/E broke up like whatever in a rush cos they got together in a rush too. It’s all for plot. And Im excited to have Carol in Kingdom plot to end. Carol to be with Team Family/ interact with Daryl and Michonne more. Carol being part of the main storyline more hopefully.
yet idk what to think on TWD/”spinoff” show. TWD still shoulda ended in s8 or earlier and it’s still kinda weird with Caryl as last two OGs ..and if they get together, there’s no Rick and Carl and others there. It still isn’t really TWD. Well I’m mainly hoping for team family, Caryl, in the RG movies and see Richonn3 reunite.
Still gonna be invested in the story by reading filming/ep spoilers. :D Caryl on.
ps. whatever may be until filming starts, May?, I can be all :D on Caryl and enjoy what we got, fanart, and be hopeful.Â
ship wars are so dumb. both sides arguing and nothing’s changed. lol waste of time. u guys are talking to a brick wall. shipper-stans are so petty ..and extreme. Ok just really look for the respectful people and block the nasty ones. I guess I don’t like stans...or nasty stans. Oh and people love to generalize which always cause arguments.Â
idk ship wars or arguments, are like debates. I don’t like to argue or debate with someone. Also, it’s my opinion on the show..so that’s it. It doesn’t mean me or u are correct. Just go with ur feels. Idk some like to debate and have game talk. so..
 It’s weird how each shipdom basically do the same things(-shipping their faves, fanfics ect.) except one character or both are different. Not one shipdom is better and unproblematic.
i kno it can get personal. but if these x shippers rounding up calling the y shippers racist, homophoic, etc...when they could just block the person or single out the person that is causing the problem and not call it the whole group/shipdom. :)
 Why these shippers either in (x or y) keep looking for drama, “evidence”, screenshot of tweets and stuff, for What? for Who? Other fans can make up their minds. X shippers calling Y shippers racist. So, then what? X and Y shippers already know for years that they disagree with each other’s shipping opinion. Other fans are indifferent and they can make their own opinion and do their own thing. So.. X shippers trying to like what ...have Y shippers/fans lose their jobs, make their rl life awful, die? wtf Idk u guys are wasting time and energy on that.
Idk. um really though all shippers are alike and ...so just stop with the drama. Once that show is over and we just so happen to be a fan of another show and love this same pairing. We end up liking the same pairing. :P Not everyone likes the same OTPs I have. Uh so follow the nice people ok.
it’s like real life... so judge a person by their character and not their ship or group. Or ignore the whole fandom. It’s whatever the writers will do and there’s always fanfics.
