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It’s worse considering most of them have the vaguest understanding of otherkin and never bothered to look it up outside the realm of tumblr - you don’t think it makes you look like a doofus at all, to be so vocally opinionated about something you have a lack of information on…? 

I think I trust the word of my own therapist(s) and psychiatrist than anti-otherkin, to which I’ve actually spoken in depth about my identity and whom do not see it as an issue or mental health problem. 

Then again, most of the “diagnoses” given by anti-otherkin are more often made to be insulting and they clearly see ‘strange’ characteristics of mental illnesses as degrading. 

I’ll never understand anti-otherkin, you have to be very arrogant to comment on the mental health of strangers you’ve never met and furthermore diagnose us.*

i’m not sure about the rest of the anti-kin community, but, i for one have never diagnosed someone who is an otherkin. claiming that one has delusions, when it is very clear that many types of otherkin do, is not diagnosing someone with anything. delusions are a symptom, they’re something to explain explicit disconnects from reality.

so if someone calls you delusional, they aren’t diagnosing you with anything. simply pointing out something that you are expressing in your views. i don’t think it’s right to comment on people’s mental health, but if all you otherkin scream is ‘stop harassing a mentally ill minor1!!!!111!!!’, key word: mentally ill, then they’re going to point it out.

i know i do.

It’s worse considering most of them have the vaguest understanding of otherkin and never bothered to look it up outside the realm of tumblr - you don’t think it makes you look like a doofus at all, to be so vocally opinionated about something you have a lack of information on…?

i have looked at both cases, personally– and i still happen to think that both forms are rather unnecessary and quite frankly bullshit identities. however, that’s my sole opinion. i’m not a professional– but i have opinions on stupid shit, but that’s my opinion– again.

I think I trust the word of my own therapist(s) and psychiatrist than anti-otherkin, to which I’ve actually spoken in depth about my identity and whom do not see it as an issue or mental health problem.

please. if you’re one of the more vanilla otherkin that you speak of that exist outside of tumblr as well, good for you! i highly doubt that those who simply wear tails and do nothing more are really all that unhealthy, however. you’re speaking for yourself. what about the deitykin, godkin, fictionkin– and factkin? the ones who ask for worship and sacrifices, the people who identify as characters that have never existed to begin with, or the people who claim to be the same person as another, living, breathing human being. none of that sounds remotely good to me– or healthy, for that matter.

Then again, most of the “diagnoses” given by anti-otherkin are more often made to be insulting and they clearly see ‘strange’ characteristics of mental illnesses as degrading.

i’d like to see some citations of anti-kin diagnosing otherkin. please.

*A reminder that in order to form a diagnosis you should be basing that diagnosis off of that person’s medical history, an examination of that person’s behavioral patterns and attitude, and an assessment of symptoms. Not taking a stroll through the otherkin tag for say, fifteen minutes.

well, you’re not wrong.

Although delusions are a symptom, they still need to be diagnosed by a psychiatrist in order to be classified as a delusion. 

Yes, some otherkin do state that their identity is the result of a delusion so it wouldn’t be incorrect for someone to say it was a delusion - that is, if the entire community was composed of mentally ill individuals, which it isn’t and is not measurable at this point. 

If you’ve never called otherkin delusional, haven’t tried pinning a diagnosis in order to somehow illegitimize the identity or used mental illness to insult otherkin: congrats, you are one of the few.

Did you honestly look at otherkin outside of tumblr, because you’re implying that off of here we don’t exist. If you did, if you actually bothered to become acquainted with the subject you would be much more aware of the otherkin community off of tumblr - which is fairly large, and far different from the atmosphere on here. 

I am fictionkin, surprise. Again, I talked to my therapists and my doctor about it, I explained my reasoning for the identity and they saw no harm in it - therefore no problem. We moved on to bigger things, it’s simple to grasp. I can’t speak for gods or deities because I’m not one, I can only speak for myself. I thought you weren’t keen on commenting on people’s mental health? For the second time, I do not care about what a stranger believes is healthy for me because they do not know my mental health, my personal information and essentially understand zip about me. I’m placing my trust in the hands of doctors I’m acquainted with and who I know are capable of making rational decisions, and are civil toward me.

Even if what I was experiencing was a delusion - I wouldn’t care, because it’s just not doing me any harm. If it was, yes, that would then be a problem for me to take care of. However it’s already been evaluated that it is not.

Factkin weren’t otherkin, might I add. As far as I know people were having delusions of being other people, however didn’t want to refer to it as a delusion because it invalidated their reality. So they came up with factkin. No one really accepts them as being part of the community, however I am still upholding the idea that no one should be criticizing their mental health considering it’s their business, they probably already know if it’s harming them or not, and it’s their business how they’re dealing with it. Mentally ill people still have their autonomy, which many often forget. 

I was just wondering about one thing. Please don’t take this as a hostile post, I just mean to learn more about it.

There’s a lot of ways one might realize they’re fictionkin - some people, might see it as something you were born with but not realize until later in life. I see my own fictotype as a past life sorta deal, and therefore it would have already been with me when I was born. Even when I first became aware of the character when I was a kid, it still took years to figure out what I was feeling toward the character and what it meant. But as a child, I probably didn’t really know much about that part of myself until I first saw the character.

I wasn’t born with the identity however, and didn’t start IDing as fictionkin until later on in life.

I’m telling you as a trans person, you don’t have to like otherkin. I’m also telling you, saying otherkin is harmful to us as your backing for your reason to dislike otherkin, is more harmful to trans people than you considered. This as a result leads to transphobia and the erasure of our identities as trans people. 

Refusing to listen to a trans person when you’ve been told to not do something which perpetuates transphobic ideas, is transphobia. Transphobia in the social sense is not just disliking transgender people, it’s furthermore actions against us which may or may not have been intentional. Speaking over trans people is an example of this. You should be considering that you, a cis person does not know as much on this topic as someone who’s been in both communities for a few years now, and especially as someone who is transgender. 

I’m telling you as a trans person, you don’t have to like otherkin. I’m also telling you, saying otherkin is harmful to us as your backing for your reason to dislike otherkin, is more harmful to trans people than you considered. This as a result leads to transphobia and the erasure of our identities as trans people. 

Refusing to listen to a trans person when you’ve been told to not do something which perpetuates transphobic ideas, is transphobia. Transphobia in the social sense is not just disliking transgender people, it’s furthermore actions against us which may or may not have been intentional. Speaking over trans people is an example of this. You should be considering that you, a cis person does not know as much on this topic as someone who’s been in both communities for a few years now, and especially as someone who is transgender.