also can't believe dream stans still exist wtf. are they all perpetually 14 years old.
They donât even like anything cool about dream. Thier just In a two way parasocial relationship with him. They donât discuss any of the REAL problems dream has. Not just problematic problems I mean his genuine struggles with his lack of social awareness and genuine confusion about societal structure.
They like to claim autism to excuse alot of dreams bad behavior but never wanna talk about how autism genuinely interrupts dreams life.
When January happened. He said somthing Iâve been thinking about since.
He was talking about how fanbases ruin friendships behind the scenes, and how Tommyâs fanbase didnât like him because the worst people who hated dream found a âsafespaceâ with Tommyâs fans and how dreams fans obviously donât like Tommy.
then he says. âFanbases ruin relationships. I mean look at puns. I fucked up, but my fans were being cruel and making fun of him. I know he took it public but everyone shoulda critiqued me. Fanbases can ruin friendshipsâ
Paraphrasing a bit but itâs at 2:46:29 if u wanna see the whole spheel.
Does this entire paragh not imply his FANBASE is the reason heâs not friends with punz? Thats just blantely not true. Even taking into account the fact dreams fans woulda hated puns. Thatâs not what ruined your friendship.
punz in his âget the heat off me and put it on dreamâ cuck post. States that he always hated dream after the stuff with his ex girlfriend. He even said he moved out the dteam house before he sent the paragraph. Thier is nothing the fanbase could have done to possibly get punz opinon of dream to be lower. Yes Iâm sure it hurt being made fun of. But like, I saw less dream fans defending dreams behavior and more of them being âwhy tf did you gay roleplay and live with him then.â Not to take thier side but. Yeah I would make fun of you too, why did you live with the guy you hated.
Them pointing out something objectively stupid instead of calling you out is not what ruined the friendship. And you canât say âwell the fanbases now hate eachotherâ dream hangs out without a lot of people his fans donât like. And people like clown piece hang out with dream despite thier fanbase hating dream.
And even then, private friendships exist. You have punz number. Probably his new address. Sapnap streamed with the guy after, you couldnât get sapnap to do you a solid and invite yall to the same team speak? same discord call? Your fanbase is the reason your couldent patch the bad blood between you too. Not punz having this wierd unsaid hatred for you only exploding when the internet turned on him. Yeah it was droloDreamkisser56 yeah Iâm sure.
He just has this old way of looking at relationships. âQuackity turned Tommy against meâ not true. And dosent make sense. âTubbo would be my friend without Tommyâs friends spreading allegationsâ tubbo is very, very evidence oriented. Thas why he spent 5 hours watching your livestream. He admits when youâre right and wrong. He does not need Tommy to tell him what to do. Tommy dosent have that power.
Every single relationship problem he looks at like an equation. Thier was a variable he missed, thier was a factor he didnât look at. Thier was a number if he could only tweak it would fix.
I donât doubt for a second this is actually the effect of his autism, giving him a more logical way of looking at things means he views relationships in a more technical sense then we would. Mixed with the rsd means he dosent let people go but canât quite figure out where he went wrong.
Thiers also another line he says that makes me realize how out of touch he is. And thatâs the âI played the villian on the dsmp lineâ and the reason thatâs horse shit, is because thier are so many other abusive child abuser villians that people didnât hate for being villians.
jschlatt played a villian. He played an abusive villian, he abused Quackity who he was in a relationship with. He got tubbo shot in the face. He is often hcs as tubbos absuive absent father. He never got fucking shit by anybody, his fanbase or dsmp outter alike for playing that undoubtedly evil role. No other villain on the dsmp is hated BECAUSE thier evil in the dsmp. Techno character was evil and sucked and nobody has ever tried to claim he would ever hurt tubbo. Sapnap was a bastard who killed animals and nobody tried to use that as evidence he was an animal abuser. (Even though heâs terrible with those cats)
Quackity by the end emotionally manipulated purpled by blowing up something he loves much like dream did. He manipulated multiple people mirroring dream for narrative importance. And even Quackity haters have never brough that shit up.
Tubbo dosent get shit on as in loyal for exiling Tommy. Nobody thinks Niki would hurt Tommy for petty reasons. Nobody thinks Phil as a piece of shit who dosent care about anybody but me.
Even people, that people do not like. Such as punz, George and sapnap never get compared to this dsmp characters unless itâs to hieghlight how a action irl mirrors thier dsmp counterpart not the other way around even tho they all play people whoâs hurt others.
The only time this applied was at the very very very start of roleplay when people hated eret. You get one point. But I argue that people learned form that and that was before the fandom was bigger and a lot of the fans were younger. You really didnât see that after eret confessed she was so upset by it.
Dream doesent get compared to his dream smp character as an attempt to slander. He gets compared because he literally tried to do the script of exile. (Tell everyone Tommy needs to pay for his crimes, interrogate tubbo untill he admits Tommy fucked up, try to turn tubbo against Tommy using tubbo as a sword to hurt him, then saying he just wants whatâs best for Tommy in the end). Dude thatâs literally just the start of exile. Nobody told dream to do any of that. Nobody told dream to mirror and dsmp scheme. Turns out when youâre being very erratic and trying to turn everyone against Tommy, playing the victim and then claiming Tommy still has a place with you if he justs apologises⌠your gonna mirror the fictional child abuser.
He has even less reason to say that because people only started tweeting he was acting like c!dream AFTER this livestream. That was him. Self fulfilling prophecy.
heâs a interesting cookie. Dream Stanâs never like any of this they just wanna talk about his hands. But I could go on for a long while.