wait wasn't this the name of the writer who gave Nightcrawler an incest baby as part of his descendants ? like Sinister made mutant chimeras with many characters' dna in a future hickman came up with in 2019. Spurrier reused that plot, had Sinister use said spliced DNA experiment especially for Nightcrawler and then had those half Nightcrawler chimeras bang each other to make a baby. the baby is both Nightcrawler's daughter and granddaughter genetically.
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I feel like a Broken record saying this but HOW does this man not have Chuck Austen's reputation.
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Spurrier retconned his own retcons yeah ' He retconned Nightcrawler's Heaven adventure before bringing it up again into his plot so Nightcrawler gets to rant about it to the fling he met less than a day prior. The plotholes this generated...
I can't even blame you for giving up on Marvel because even nowadays, nothing improved since Spurrier.
Nightcrawler's main ongoing plot in Gail Simone's Uncanny X-Men is just, dating her self-insert. I'm not joking : Gail Simone made a self-insert who mostly serves as Nightcrawler's current girlfriend and cheerleader.
I just don't understand how Spurrier has written Nightcrawler for half a decade and the writing is the absolute worst it's ever been.
Even if you are a fan that likes the Mystique and Destiny parentage retcon how can they seriously say that everything else he's done is good or acceptable and not the worst type of writing X-Men has had throughout its entire run???
Chuck Austen had his problems but he only wrote for a few years. This guy has written X-Men for longer and the ramifications of what he changes are worse! And correct me if I'm wrong didn't Spurrier also retcon his own retcons?
Idk whats going on with Gail Simone but she seems to be falling into the trap of a lot of writers who had a good prime period of writing only to later decline
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so hi, i randomly saw you ask that question and long story short:
during the Krakoa era of X-Men (2019-2024), nightcrawler's been written... very very badly. and has gotten rather shitty plots and character development. you can thank simon spurrier, kieron gillen and gerry duggan on this. it was really an outstanding team effort /s
anyway, some of the reprehensible things they made nightcrawler do is have plenty of talks with mister sinister where he seemingly asked for his advice on many things including getting she-hulk to serve as Krakoa's attorney for mutant affairs outside the island and help improve their justice system he decided to rework from the ground up (which she never got to do... they only used her to rebuild Krakoa thanks to her super strength and legally set up an demon embassy outside of Krakoa in the city that got attacked by said demons not even a few days prior, an embassy they mindcontrolled public officials to allow the very existence of mind you) and had him date silver sable during fall of x
now, under any other circumstance ? dating silver sable isn't a problem : she's a spiderman ally and a mercenary who is behind an assassin agency that goes against corrupt and fascist groups on a daily like hydra. she explicitly goes against war criminals
the problem is that simon spurrier took her and decided to have her join orchis, an anti mutant group who is as close to nazism as it can get and is actively committing war crimes, and help them hunt down mutants during fall of x when nightcrawler was busy having fun pretending to be spiderman and avoiding mutant matters (i wish i could give you more context for why he was doing that when his friends were actively risking their lives to help mutants but i got nothing)
spurrier character assassinated silver sable to have her immediately fall for nightcrawler (when she only ever got on kissing level with her longtime crush peter parker) and bang him on a skyscraper while she was still working for her nazi organisation agacent and he was pretending to be spiderman still just so her relationship to him gets her to wake up and realize the organisation she gave her services for were actually the bad guys all along (shock)
wanna know the worst part ? silver sable and her father are nazi hunters and she was part of a fictional central europe country who was subjected to nazis... silver literally had her mother get killed in front of her by a nazi
this is the character simon spurrier thought was perfect to have nightcrawler teach her a lesson on how to spot a nazi and to defect...
and even then they only used her for his spiderman pretend mini to take down one facility and then it was sayonara bye bye : she was completely ejected from the conflict that was literally about her most fundamental character goals for no reason because she was just there to serve as nightcrawler's latest conquest
it was briefly explained to me by @kurtty-drabbles
Honestly with this detailed explanation I'm just more and more strengthened in my decision to never read a Marvel book made after 2014
I was on an X-Men fandom chatroom the other day and someone on it brought up something that made me think hard because they're completely right.
What makes the retcon of Nightcrawler's origins such a bad joke is that not only is it based on a plain fetish without much substance, not only did it ruin every character used in it, not only did it ruin relationships, not only does it break decades of continuity, not only is it a gaping plothole generator,
It was literally done while Nightcrawler spent his time in a Spider-Man filler book and not on an X-Men main one. It was literally called Uncanny Spider-Man because nobody at Marvel had any faith in a Nightcrawler book being sold after how much of a failure Spurrier was at writing something like that and even then, because he was still writing this one, it didn't get as much traction as hoped. Wanna know how I can be so sure of this ? The synopsis of that mini was that the reveal of Nightcrawler's origins was gonna happen during it... Only for it to never happen it that book and be relegated to a bonus book that everyone actually checked out instead of Uncanny Spider-Man and that one actually had X-Men in the fucking title (X-Men Blue Origins).
Do you know what else was done in a Spider-Man book instead of something tied to the guest character used in it ? Miss Marvel getting killed.
Hi nonny.
The saddest part is how Nightcrawler is still the fav in the fandom, but everyone who pretends to like the retcon doesnt use the retcon. "Destiny is his mom." I haven't seen any wave of fan art of Kurt, Destiny, and Raven as family. "He is the prophecy boy" NOTHING. "Kurt is dating a milf" nothing.
I haven't even seen people making art of Kurt as Spiderman bc...he was cosplaying while his friends and kids were being killed in a concentration camp (canon)
He was banging a nazi ...letting people die in concentration camp.
I'm really sick of the "Pirates are Lost Boys who grew up and escaped Pan" theory
1) The book is a children's story, not a horror novel.
2) The idea Peter kills boys who grow up is based on one throwaway line that says he "thins them out" if there are too many, which can mean several different things.
3) HOOK WAS A PIRATE WITH A CREW BEFORE LANDING IN NEVERLAND! He literally has a backstory in the book and several speeches J.M. Barrie gave about going to Eton, running away, and becoming a pirate. The crew arrived in Neverland AS IS.
4) The book mentions Peter will travel with the souls of dying kids halfway to the afterlife so they aren't scared. He also desperately begs children to save Tinkerbell, tries to sacrifice himself for Wendy, saves Tiger Lilly while commenting that the pirates were being unfair when capturing her, even tries to help Hook regain his footing during a fight, and saves the Neverbird's eggs from being destroyed. Does that sound like a psychopath to you?
5) The ONLY TIME we see Peter try to kill a Lost Boy is when he mistakenly thinks said Lost Boy killed Wendy, and said Lost Boy told Peter to kill him. Once it turns out Wendy is alive, not only is the boy forgiven, but the only punishment Tinkerbell (the actual culprit) gets is banishment.
The entire purpose of the book is to contrast the innocence of youth with the responsibilities of adulthood. The negative traits Peter has are meant to show the dangers of refusing to grow up, while Hook is meant to show the dangers of growing up TOO much. Hook OBSESSES over good form and acting proper to the point he almost FAINTS when Wendy sees a stain on his shirt.
Also, the entire book "Peter and Wendy" and every other variation of the story JM Barrie wrote is FREE on the internet. Anyone can read it RIGHT HERE http://neverpedia.com/pan/Read:Peter_and_Wendy
There is no good reason for this misinformation spreading. It is easily available.
Passages from the book under cut, since last time I posted something like this someone tried to argue with me
At first Mrs. Darling did not know, but after thinking back into her childhood she just remembered a Peter Pan who was said to live with the fairies. There were odd stories about him, as that when children died he went part of the way with them, so that they should not be frightened.
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"It lifted Michael off the ground," he cried; "why should it not carry you?"
"Both of us!"
"It can't lift two; Michael and Curly tried."
"Let us draw lots," Wendy said bravely.
"And you a lady; never." Already he had tied the tail round her. She clung to him; she refused to go without him; but with a "Good-bye, Wendy," he pushed her from the rock; and in a few minutes she was borne out of his sight. Peter was alone on the lagoon.
The rock was very small now; soon it would be submerged. Pale rays of light tiptoed across the waters; and by and by there was to be heard a sound at once the most musical and the most melancholy in the world: the mermaids calling to the moon.
Peter was not quite like other boys; but he was afraid at last. A tremour ran through him, like a shudder passing over the sea; but on the sea one shudder follows another till there are hundreds of them, and Peter felt just the one. Next moment he was standing erect on the rock again, with that smile on his face and a drum beating within him. It was saying, "To die will be an awfully big adventure."
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Nevertheless the bird was determined to save him if she could, and by one last mighty effort she propelled the nest against the rock. Then up she flew; deserting her eggs, so as to make her meaning clear.
Then at last he understood, and clutched the nest and waved his thanks to the bird as she fluttered overhead. It was not to receive his thanks, however, that she hung there in the sky; it was not even to watch him get into the nest; it was to see what he did with her eggs.
There were two large white eggs, and Peter lifted them up and reflected. The bird covered her face with her wings, so as not to see the last of them; but she could not help peeping between the feathers.
I forget whether I have told you that there was a stave on the rock, driven into it by some buccaneers of long ago to mark the site of buried treasure. The children had discovered the glittering hoard, and when in a mischievous mood used to fling showers of moidores, diamonds, pearls and pieces of eight to the gulls, who pounced upon them for food, and then flew away, raging at the scurvy trick that had been played upon them. The stave was still there, and on it Starkey had hung his hat, a deep tarpaulin, watertight, with a broad brim. Peter put the eggs into this hat and set it on the lagoon. It floated beautifully.
The Never bird saw at once what he was up to, and screamed her admiration of him; and, alas, Peter crowed his agreement with her. Then he got into the nest, reared the stave in it as a mast, and hung up his shirt for a sail. At the same moment the bird fluttered down upon the hat and once more sat snugly on her eggs. She drifted in one direction, and he was borne off in another, both cheering.
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"It was poisoned, Peter," she told him softly; "and now I am going to be dead."
"O Tink, did you drink it to save me?"
"Yes."
"But why, Tink?"
Her wings would scarcely carry her now, but in reply she alighted on his shoulder and gave his nose a loving bite. She whispered in his ear "You silly ass," and then, tottering to her chamber, lay down on the bed.
His head almost filled the fourth wall of her little room as he knelt near her in distress. Every moment her light was growing fainter; and he knew that if it went out she would be no more. She liked his tears so much that she put out her beautiful finger and let them run over it.
Her voice was so low that at first he could not make out what she said. Then he made it out. She was saying that she thought she could get well again if children believed in fairies.
Peter flung out his arms. There were no children there, and it was night time; but he addressed all who might be dreaming of the Neverland, and who were therefore nearer to him than you think: boys and girls in their nighties, and naked papooses in their baskets hung from trees.
"Do you believe?" he cried.
Tink sat up in bed almost briskly to listen to her fate.
She fancied she heard answers in the affirmative, and then again she wasn't sure.
"What do you think?" she asked Peter.
"If you believe," he shouted to them, "clap your hands; don't let Tink die."
Many clapped.
Some didn't.
A few beasts hissed.
The clapping stopped suddenly; as if countless mothers had rushed to their nurseries to see what on earth was happening; but already Tink was saved. First her voice grew strong, then she popped out of bed, then she was flashing through the room more merry and impudent than ever. She never thought of thanking those who believed, but she would have like to get at the ones who had hissed.
I know it’s generally accepted that Lugnut is in decepticon high command for his overwhelming strength and blind loyalty, and that he happens to be Strika’s conjunx/consort, but I have a potentially funnier option.
His actual position is specifically as Strika’s consort. She brought her weird boyfriend with her when she got promoted, and made an example of anyone who tried to get rid of him for being annoying. So now at important meetings there’s Decepticon High Command, And Also Strika’s Annoying Consort Who’s Weirdly Obsessed With Megatron.
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Given that Katt Williams used my faith to slander Michael Jackson I'm just gonna say as a Muslim myself I think Katt Williams is a Pig based on his long established criminal history of where he attacks people and children and steals from others and in addition to all that he's got an ugly Pig Like Face himself.
Katt Piggiams is a Pig on the Inside and outside and the amount of times he sweats on stage through the Oinking he calls a stand up routine its like he's just itching to roll around in Mud and Cool Off.
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when will people retire the argument that Michael seemed “weird” or abnormal so therefore he MUST have been guilty…? Yall forget that he had severe childhood trauma and didn’t have a normal adulthood either!! Bro became the biggest selling artist and most famous person in the world in his damn 20s. He forever had to work hard to compete with his own success and also survive all the pressures of “god level” fame. The isolation, the lack of trust, no privacy, being dehumanized on a massive scale by the media and by the public (either as a deity or a monster.) His own mental health related struggles and feeling disconnected from other people….even his own family. Adults around him never truly looked out for him or protected him, from the damn start. Having to deal with two autoimmune disorders and a chronic burn injury in front of the whole world. There really was nothing “normal” about the circumstances in his life. No one else would last a day in his world.
This man dreamt of mundane things like being able to go a damn grocery store without being mobbed. He felt more comfortable on a stage than any other human social setting. He said that the joy of helping children was often his only reason for living. People don’t realize the psychological weight of those statements. I’m not trying to psychoanalize or diagnose, but people need to get it through their thick skull that being different or “weird” based on made up standards isn’t a crime.