And when I say Queen Narissa is Clarissa's mother and Yen Sid is Dougal's second parent, I mean Chernabog made Clarissa and Dougal in a cauldron using Narissa and Yen Sid's magic DNA for each child.
Clarissa didn't immediately manifest magic and was promptly thrown into Marina's care/custody while Dougal was raised by Narissa before she mysteriously disappeared when Dougal was nine; which left him in Marina's care.
They were made the same day, but got to pick the date for their birthday when they were roughly five. Clarissa chose November 21st and Dougal chose the same.
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Was reminded that magic is outlawed in Auradon, thusly in the canon of my fanfic, Coventry and Auradon are allies. Camryn, who is now Queen of Coventry, did not feel it was best to restrict the magic of the kingdom's people after giving it back to them.
It was with great hesitation, that she allows her daughter, Juno, attend Auradon Prep as a show of trust between allies. Juno is not attending alone. Ileana and Karsh's sons, Pollux and Mars, are tasked as being Juno's protectors.
It is unknown to them, that for a second time, Thantos has evaded death by weaseling his way into Auradon.
Rewatching Twitches and Twitches Too, but, in my opinion, Miranda was right to want the vanquishing spell done and Cameron was right to do the vanquishing spell. It doesn't matter that Aron was still hiding in the Shadowlands. The person contacting them and leading them on this whole goose chase was Thantos and he got Alex's magic. The reward, to me, wasn't worth the risk. But it's a Disney movie so alls well that ends well.
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No thoughts. Just randomly shipping Maddox and evil timeline Queen of Hearts. If I was on it for the brief interaction during Mad, I know if they were both evil, it's be indomitable.
Why is Maddox evil? Sure "unexpected consequences of time travel" and all that jazz, but he could have had his son and a life under a queen that won't just lop his head off for sneezing wrong. Nothing Red and Chloe changed should have caused this. If he could build one time machine, he can build another.
Unrelated: Red stop speaking in riddles. Explain the pocketwatch, for real. Speaking in nothing but metaphors and symbolism is unneeded.
Treating "Evil Chloe" like a goth phase is not my fav joke. Ella's pantsuits could have been better (i.e color or texture diversity). Costumes for the HKs and new added VKs (minus Pink) are better than the previous movie since they were allowed to have a secondary color and neutral color to go with the main. Short of Evil!Chloe, Chloe was just a blue blob along with her mom.
Maddox saw Red and Chloe time travelling, but literally nobody, and I mean NOBODY, believed him and tried to "gaslight him" into believing that this never occurred. He basically became a bad-ending Candace Flynn. That's why he went crazy and became villainous, because it was about finding that watch. It's not about inventing a new watch; it's about proving its existence.
Meta-wise, it also matches as it's not just unexpected consequences of time travel, but also the fact that Red literally pickpocketed him from his invention and then altered the fabric of time without his permission, which ended up with his life changing.
You understand now?
The Pocket Watch literally walks on vague vibes; there is no instruction regarding it. Maddox told Red how it works in riddles, and Red understood the assignment. It's a mad invention of a mad scientist hatter. It's not about making sense.
But Evil Chloe was lowkey a phase, I bet even Chloe could say "it was just a phase, mom".
I will say justice for the Hatter family. In one timeline, they're living under a tyrant who just staged a coup and who knows what could've happened after that. In the other, everyone is telling you that you're crazy while your son is burdened with the title "son of a madman".
I also could have worded my sentence better. I wasn't asking for an explanation of the mechanics of the Pocket Watch. I was more-so joking about Red going from "it's my fault" to waxing poetically about the meaning of hero and villain while Maddox is about to go to jail.
I commend how active and attentive you are in every discussion you have had about this movie.
Why is Maddox evil? Sure "unexpected consequences of time travel" and all that jazz, but he could have had his son and a life under a queen that won't just lop his head off for sneezing wrong. Nothing Red and Chloe changed should have caused this. If he could build one time machine, he can build another.
Unrelated: Red stop speaking in riddles. Explain the pocketwatch, for real. Speaking in nothing but metaphors and symbolism is unneeded.
Treating "Evil Chloe" like a goth phase is not my fav joke. Ella's pantsuits could have been better (i.e color or texture diversity). Costumes for the HKs and new added VKs (minus Pink) are better than the previous movie since they were allowed to have a secondary color and neutral color to go with the main. Short of Evil!Chloe, Chloe was just a blue blob along with her mom.
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Because the new movie is around the corner, I'm about to redesign every oc I have made for the franchise.
Might overhaul them to fit more in with the newer line of VKs and HKs.
My Core Four
ClarissaāDaughter of Queen Narissa and Chernabogā Abandoned by Chernabog for being deemed "a failure", Clarissa was raised by Narissa, nannied by Marina, and generally uninterested in the politics of villainy. Despite this, she did inherit a baseline dislike of Mal and does not back down when anyone tries step to her. Goes through with Marina's elegance classes to avoid Mal's gang and most other Isle kids.
DougalāSon of ChernabogāThe child of darkness Chernabog always wanted. Apathetic to the process, but loves the status and power that comes with his birthright even if it's just on the Isle. Dougal is a troublemaker for the love of the game. After he was made, he chose to share a birthday with Clarissa just to be known as the "Better Chernabog twin".
Caspian Del ReyāSon of Marina Del ReyāCautious and quiet, Caspian recognizes he's not the strongest amongst the Isle, so he tries to keep his head down. This doesn't always work when heāby proximity due to his mother's workāis always around Clarissa and Angela. An assistant to his mother's lessons, Caspian is a gentleman.
Angela SueƱo-DuBaerāDaughter of King Magnifico and Step-Daughter of Thantos DuBaerāA doll. A performer. Angela is talkerāwhich she got from her fathers. Enjoys Marina's elegance classes ad they give her a setting to express her "natural royalty" amongst her peers. Best friends with Clarissa.
Honorary Mention
Ruby HartlandāDaughter of the Queen and King of HeartsāMade pre-Rise of RedāOriginally: Raised on the Isle alongside Clarissa, Ruby is the wildcard of the duo. Always one to shirk Marina's elegance lessons to paint the Isle red. An artist at heart, Ruby is passionate and always one to wear the odd colour or four. Allergic to pollen. Claims to be allergic to pastels.
Notable members include: Jett Fillmore, Will Harris, Modo Olachenko, Olivia Burke, Archie Everhardt, Lenny Williamson
Yāknow, there was a brief time where I was willing to be a bit more lenient with how folks portrayed some characters in Goat 2026. Not all of them stood out as particularly Black to me. I just figured y'all at least knew which characters were undeniably Black, as in, it wasn't left up to interpretation. But apparently, no matter how obvious the writing and portrayal of the character is linked to their Blackness, y'all still had the audacity to depict them as white, of all things, when reimagined as human beings.
So now I have to say, nah: they are all Black. Every team member here. Meaning when you draw them as humans, they better be Black. This is already a Black sports genre story anyways.
āBut what can I do about Oliviaās hair?ā Either make them into afro-puffs, use the concept art where she is drawn with Black hairstyles in mind, or base it on Y2K straightened Black hairstyles. Either figure it out or donāt do it, I'm just at that point.
Edit: Thanks to this addition in the notes: We now know that Modo's style is based on a former Black basketball star. Please read
Literally, I canāt imagine watching a movie like this and forming the conclusion that someone like Will Harris is a generic white boy. Truly, what were y'all smoking? So for this series, I do want to point out some possible reasons, some of yaāll donāt want to see these characters as Black. We know itās due to antiblackness, but we gotta dig deeper into some of these reasons.
Why canāt Will be Black?:
Heās goofy in a corny way
Heās considerate
Heās small thus ānon-threateningā
Typical underdog story you associate with scrawny small loser white boys
āNone of those reasons only apply to non-Black characters,ā and yet time and time again, y'all demonstrate you believe that to be exactly the case. Your actions speak louder than words here, remember that.
See, Will shares a similar demeanor and appearance to the character Miles Morales: a young inner-city Black boy with a humorous personality, fro-ed out hair, love of sneakers, you get the gist. Hell, thereās talk that Caleb McLaughlin may end up voicing Miles in the next Spider-verse movie(donāt quote me).
The thing with Miles, however, is that he isnāt an anthropomorphic animal or anything like that. Heās visually a normal human Black boy. Unfortunately for non-Black fans, many didnāt know how to engage with that fact. Milesās character was funny and charming and sweet and all, but they just couldnāt imagine a Black boy having those traits, while also being unapologetically Black. Iāve seen attempts to whitewash his character on the account that his mother was Latina, but then stump themselves learning sheās Afro-Latina. People tried depicting him as a troubled Black youth who steals art supplies he canāt afford, which noā¦he doesnāt do that. His dad is a cop(awful), his mom is a doctor, and he goes to a private school; they arenāt struggling financially. So when all of those attempts to sanitize his Blackness were met with criticism, non-Black fans then turned all their focus onto Gwen Stacy. That's sadly the common tactic for these guys when they enter a fandom focused on Black stories, they focus on the token white.
Now, because Will is depicted as a goat person, some of y'all decided that was a perfect opportunity to say he can be white, cuz āno one said he couldnāt be,ā thinking y'all are clever. We already went over how stupid that logic was, so I wonāt say much here again. If you are out here believing that a character looking like this, in a Black sports movie genre is white: skill issue.Ā
What I will talk about are the characters yall WILL agree are indefinitely Blackā¦but only due to bigoted biases of preconceived notions towards Blackness.Ā
See, for me, Jett Fillmore is a Black woman because her VA, Gabrielle Union, makes her sound like a typical, old-school auntie who knows how to smack-talk and got game. She was also characterized as someone who had trouble expressing emotional vulnerability and was always hardest on herself. I often see this happen to Black women irl, as we tend to keep to ourselves and close ourselves off, figuring no one actually cares to help us (which does happen more often than not). We live under a system that puts us under constant pressure and hypersurveillance, waiting, and cheering for our downfall. We are expected to help everyone, but at the same time, never to express our thoughts, as that makes us appear aggressive, threatening, and hysterical. That was just an interesting storyline they gave her, and I would have liked to explore that more (how was she not the main character???), but for what we got, the signs were there.
Also, sheās literally a black panther wearing her own Jordan brand; itās honestly not that hard to conclude that this is a Black character. So for a time, I was impressed to see the fandom depict her as a darkskinned Black woman, cuz fandoms never go that far unless - ohā¦.oh boy
Yeah, so imagine my disappointment to learn the fanbase seems to only agree sheās a darkskinned Black woman, because they see her as an aggressive and angry individual who is āmasculineā because she doesnāt have a āfeminine body.āĀ
Idk about y'all, but itās funny how every other day on this website, we talk about how women should be allowed to express their emotions, allowed to express anger over personal injustice, and allowed to have varying body types without being demeaned or questioned about their gender expression. But when it comes to Blackness and Black women, we all of a sudden canāt find ourselves to extend that same grace and consideration. Why does Jett need to be considered a masculine figure for being a Black athlete? Why does Willās race AND his gender need to be questioned by non-Black people for not meeting the assumed image of Black boys?
Misogynoir in womenās sports is so disheartening to witness. Our bodies are already masculinized (or called animalistic) enough as it is. You then have to add on top of the fact that we arenāt allowed to scream, get angry, get energetic, be happy, or show any visible disappointment with a turnout, lest you be deemed the villain.
Similarly, we have the character Mane Attraction that fandom will also not argue is Black. You would think itās because of his inner-city AAVE, his use of diss tracks, or his cornrowed mane he takes great care of (even if they might be extensions, which gestures). But no, looking at how y'all treat Jett, I can only assume itās because Mane is a big, strong, and aggressive individual bullying the āmeek, frail, and feminineā main character. Iām being sarcastic with those traits I used to describe Will btw, because that's how heās all of a sudden framed when it comes to shipping. No, he's just smaller than the average Roarball player, that was kinda the point. Which you should ask yourselves why being small = petite and feminine...and white. Had Will been built like the other large animal players, Iām very certain yall would label him aggressively masculine for speaking AAVE.Ā
Basically, a lot of y'all in the fandom are phony for encouraging this behavior, honestly. All this talk of how we want media to stop portraying everything as an assumed binary, only to show yāall want the status quo to remain. So until further notice, everyone on The Thorns is Black. āEveryone?ā
Hey, if you can somehow find a way to make Will a white boy, Iām sure y'all can find how to make the other guys Black.
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Recently saw Is God Is and have fully settled down from having some feelings about the ending. Overall, the movie was enjoyable. Loved the twins' connection and the actresses were lovely. I just wasn't fond of the ending. I went in expecting a "female rage movie" and it is that in the same sense that Promising Young Woman is female rage movie in that it is a tragedy with a woman's anger being the driving force. Racine esentially being marked for death by her anger and likened to her father whereas Anaia can live after having just a bit of anger to kill her father comes across as a woman can only be allowed so much anger before she is no better than a man. Anaia remarking on how quiet it is after losing Racine didn't fully sit well with me.