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In an effort to shit on Zutara, they end up insulting Katara the most lol.
Shitara? Sounds like something a Katara anti would say, not a Katara defender. Just saying
The wording also makes it sound like they love colonizer ships, just not zutara.
Maybe they hate zutara because it represents ending colonization and they're just racist as fuck???
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Now this is badly edited, but I did what I could, but the noses for the new ATLA movie have been bothering me immensely. All the noses look so bleh. I know the art style in general is very different from the series, but the noses are just SOOOOO different. I feel like this would have made a ton more sense and makes the character animation feel more in line with the original series. Had to see what it would look like for Aang and Katara at least.
two lovers, forbidden from one another,
a war divides their people... ⛰️
with the movie coming out soon i feel like this should be said in tumblr as well:
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So the problem that I and many others have pointed out is exactly the point this person is trying to make, that it SHOULD be more about culture and community than it is about bending. But the narrative doesn't treat it that way. Aang should be sharing his culture with his wife, and later his children, who share his Air Nomad heritage. However, we know from LoK that the only person in his family he shared Air Nomad culture with was...you guessed it, his one airbending child.
And in this movie, he is immediately drawn to Taga despite the ONLY thing linking him to Taga is him being an airbender. I'll admit that the plot was confusing and boring and I already forgot most of it since I saw it a few months ago, but I believe Taga was not even an Air Nomad, or if he was, his culture and personality certainly did not resemble the ones Aang knew, and he was given airbending by magic, not born to it like the other Air Nomads. The thing that drew Aang to Taga was his airbending, despite the red flags that appeared from the moment Aang met him that signaled that Taga was nothing like the peaceful monks he knew.
It's not just what Aang says to Katara and how dismissive it is, especially in the context of Katara dropping everything to help him without question, and then the moment she does question things, he immediately insults her like this. It's that Aang never tried to share things with Katara, his culture, his grief, nothing. Now, you could make the argument that it's because of his trauma that he didn't try, but then you have to admit that he didn't try, instead of glorifying him remaining on this island and insisting that no one around him could ever understand. This moment in the movie is not supposed to be justified. I don't know why we're defending it, except for the fact that it's a pattern of the writers not addressing this issue in any meaningful way, and thinking of Aang as an immigrant especially highlights how the writers don't know how to deal with this topic at all.
as much as the Gaang might be exasperated by Katara's reluctance to accept Zuko in the group, I think it reflects a particularly pragmatic view of forgiveness on her part. his was an extraordinary sort of wrongdoing and harm, not just against them as a whole, but against her specifically; it's only natural that it would take extraordinary reparation for her to move past it. what's interesting about this is that we know she doesn't feel obliged to forgive, because she doesn't grant that to the soldier who killed her mother. unlike Aang, she doesn't believe in indefinitely many chances or in forgiveness for its own sake—there is a line which, once crossed, cannot be walked back.
but it's exactly this pragmatism that gives Zuko a concrete target. he can redirect all that guilt and shame into the effort to earn Katara's trust and forgiveness, in spite of everything. and because he can see for himself that this is not something so easily given, it becomes all the more valuable when he finally achieves it. their bond is forged from his resolution to compensate for his own violent wrongdoing. it's impossible that this should not be an intense, tempered bond.
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something that's so important to me during the southern raiders is that, after his moment's surprise at Katara's bloodbending, Zuko's eyes narrow and he unflinchingly presses forward. because in that moment, even if he doesn't recognize what it is that Katara is doing, he recognizes the rage and anguish driving her actions—he can see what she's feeling and it doesn't perturb him because he understands. it's an ineffable state of mind, not something she can explain to someone else with words, but in Zuko's case, she doesn't need to. that implicit understanding is so important to me.
Numbers Never Lie Kataang edition
The aamount of views and likes on this post for The Aang: The Last Airbender movie is very telling. In just a short amount of time, it already surpassed anything that fanfic live action Avatar has done. This is real impact. People want Kataang.
It's pretty strange to frame this as a kataang vs zutara thing. The fandom consensus is that both this movie and natla are bad but both caused a huge surge in zutara fandom. This movie probably even moreso, despite not having any zutara in it.
The movie also barely had Kataang in it. It was established that they were in a relationship, but--and I'm going off of vibes here--it felt like the writers spent almost as much time to making fun of Zutara as they did portraying scenes were Katara and Aang directly interacted with each other as if they were in a relationship (I'm not counting shouting from a distance).
Right? I said when I watched the movie that if I cared about kataang, I would have been really disappointed, because the movie shows me nothing of what I would have liked to see about their relationship. I joked that the movie trailer makes it seem like a forbidden romance between Aang and Taga, and frankly, that relationship has more development than kataang.
Someone is never beating the self insert allegations...
I do not want to hear about Bryan talking about how hot he thinks Aang is.
Also, if Aang is not yet the Avatar he needs to be, and he's dead in LoK, when does he actually become the Avatar? This movie was supposed to be his moment?
Seems to me that Bryke is trying to address Aang’s problematic behavior in ATLA show/comics/LOK by continuing to demonstrate how immature and selfish and inconsiderate he still is at the age of 25… but promising to the fans “don’t worry! Aang will grow up at some point. He’s just going through a lot right now. Go easy on him.” … Kind of like how some women believe that, once they marry that goofy carefree childlike guy, they’ll finally step up and be the mature, calm and emotionally-collected partner who can also raise some kids?
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Also, I never really saw Aang as being vain enough to deprive half the world of its tofu supply all for a 12-pack of abs and swimmers’ shoulders… but it seems like Bryke really wanted to emphasize that Katara would’ve never left Aang for a hot guy with definitely-no-chest-scar because nobody is hotter than Aang now. 🤷🏽♀️
It also seems like a statement designed to market more content to us. "The story isn't over yet, guys! Promise! We definitely aren't trying to milk the rotten, dried corpse of this franchise!"
Am I the only one who really really liked Aang until near the end of season 3 when they made him weirdly entitled towards Katara and a shitty father in LOK? He was a cool kid with potential but they did him so dirty
You're not the only one, a lot of zutara shippers feel the exact same way.
I can make a case for his entitlement to Katara being present from early on and built into the narrative from the beginning, but contrary to the belief of toxic Aang stans who would rather devour their own fandom (I was actually looking at some spicy zukaang fan art when that DM came in), I don't actually hate him.
Lol someone made a sock puppet blog and DM'd me to tell me that I'M chronically online.
What is the point, indeed.
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Someone is never beating the self insert allegations...
I do not want to hear about Bryan talking about how hot he thinks Aang is.
Also, if Aang is not yet the Avatar he needs to be, and he's dead in LoK, when does he actually become the Avatar? This movie was supposed to be his moment?
Kataang shippers:
Weird how kataang shippers will cry colonizer sympathizer and genocide supporter while happily embracing incest simply to stick it to Zutara shippers.
Everyone is allowed to ship what they want, but don't lie to me about your selective morality and the fact that you never actually cared about the communities you exploit for moral high ground.
People can ship whatever they want, but most zucest shippers are Azula stans who think she's a little tiny baby who never did anything wrong, so they better not be saying zutara is a colonizer ship.
Numbers Never Lie Kataang edition
The aamount of views and likes on this post for The Aang: The Last Airbender movie is very telling. In just a short amount of time, it already surpassed anything that fanfic live action Avatar has done. This is real impact. People want Kataang.
It's pretty strange to frame this as a kataang vs zutara thing. The fandom consensus is that both this movie and natla are bad but both caused a huge surge in zutara fandom. This movie probably even moreso, despite not having any zutara in it.
A question for Zutara fic writers (and readers)
There's something that always confuses me whenever I'm reading a Zutara fanfic. Mind you, this is not an attempt to call anyone out but rather an invitation for an amicable exchange of opinions. Many times when Zuko and Katara are having a conversation and Kya's death is brought up Katara mentions that the reason her mom got killed was because she claimed to be the last waterbender of the SWT in an attempt to protect her, which we know DID happen. These moments also happen before the events of the Southern Raiders
The reason I'm confused is because I remember that Katara actually didn't know that Kya was protecting her until she heard Yon Rha recall what happened the day of the raid. In Katara's flashback that we see in the Southern Raiders, she doesn't witness the discussion between Kya and Yon Rha since Kya instructs her to go to Hakoda not long after she enters their home.
Again, I'm not trying to be mean but this is an aspect that does pull me out of the reading inmersion a litlle so I want to know if having Katara know about Kya's sacrifice is a deliberate choice or if I'm suffering from a weird Mandela effect sort of thing.
I rewatched the flashbacks and I can see where you are coming from. We aren't explicitly shown the part where Kya tells Yon Rha she is the waterbender until the third flashback, which could be taken as Yon Rha relating his memory to Katara. Although, I think most people, myself included, assume Katara already knows, because of how much she internalized Kya's death. When she relates the story to Zuko and Zuko says that she was brave, even though it's not explicitly said that Kya is sacrificing herself to protect Katara, it is heavily implied.
Zuko, Katara, and "Mutual Hatred"
The anti-Zutara argument of "they shouldn't be together because they literally hated each for almost three seasons" is something I find a bit ridiculous for several reasons.
First of all, even if they were enemies, they are undoubtedly friends by the end of the series. Second of all, most interpretations of how a canon Zutara would work don't end with them getting together in the end, but with an open-ended ending and their relationship being confirmed in sequel material (not to mention how many fanfictions take this route). So any arguments about how they shouldn't have gotten together at the end of the series don't necessarily oppose the ship being canonical. Third of all, do you not know what an enemies-to-lovers couple is?
However, I kind of wanted to look at this argument from a slightly different angle.
I would like to argue that Zuko and Katara didn't actually hate each other at any point during the series. Now, I think the ship would still be valid even if they had hated each other. But I think reducing their relationship pre-Southern Raiders as "hatred" is an incredibly shallow read that borders on outright mischaracterization.
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There's a lot of Katara reminds Zuko of his mother in this fandom but not enough of Zuko reminds Katara of HER mother. Because in NATLA she lists these as the first things she remembers when thinking of positive things about her mother:
And is that not literally Zuko? Getting up in the morning before everyone else (rises with the sun), helping Katara with camp chores (this is more of an HC but I think it has a canon basis), and being connected specifically to the sun/ sunrise. Jet even tells her in the same scene to "remember the sunrise" when thinking of her mother and I???? When Katara thinks about her mother she thinks about the sunrise.
A random bonus: In TSR after Katara is done telling Zuko about her mother's death, he tells her "she sounds like a very brave woman" and Katara replies "I know". And bravery (recklessness, tbh) is like Zuko's main character trait. They also learn in the same episode that Kya died protecting her daughter by telling Yon Rha she was the last southern waterbender. And a few episodes later Zuko quite literally jumps in front of lightning to protect Katara...
I just feel like Zuko would remind Katara a lot of her mom, especially in his work ethic and bravery.
calling zutara a self-insert ship then posting about how aang’s stormy grey eyes and glowy yummy tattoos would look like while fucking you doggy……oh! but i thought!
