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You think fics that turn Aang into a r*pist is "not brushing off his canon actions"?
First off, don't censor yourself, this isn't tiktok. It's rape. If you're going to try to use rape as a gatcha moment in a ship war, you can at least say it with your chest. I'm an adult, I know what that word means.
Now, I honestly don't even know what fics you're referring. I have read a LLOOOOOTTTT of zutara fanfic over the years and I cannot remember reading a single one where they made a/ng a rapist. (But maybe that's because if I don't want to read something, I just don't click on it.) But I have read some where he sexually assaults Katara.
This isn't ooc, most of the time it's a fic about where he canonically sexually assaults Katara when he kisses her without her consent on Ember Island. Despite what you may think, that is sexual assault. I also don't think it's that big of a deal for writers to explore a dark concept in fic, as long as its tagged correctly, especially when it's rooted in something he does in canon. I personally think that for many writers it's a logical jump considering he has kissed Katara without her consent twice and has uncontrollable anger issues that he requires Katara to manage.
The majority of the Zutara fandom doesn't think that a/ng is a rapist. They say he sexually assaults Katara, which he does. He kissed her without her consent during a fight where she said she was not interested in perusing a relationship. That's what I mean when I say that most zks aren't actually vilifying a/ng, they're pointing out the problems with the writing, as this is never actually addressed in canon.
The thing is, I'm sure there's plenty of things that kas and antis write that I don't agree with or I would say vilifies Katara or Zuko, but I wouldn't know, because I don't interact with it. If you don't want to see depictions of a/ng as a rapist, don't read them. Again, it's not even a majority of zks that write stuff like that.
Zutara antis got soooooo mad when they were called conservative, but in the past week I've been seeing a rise in "if you don't love everything about the show you should stop watching it and engaging with the fandom," and, well. This is conservative logic, my friends.
The Fire Prince is different than she remembers, barely an echo of himself. He moves as though he's treading deep waters. Sometimes, Katara feels like she's watching him through a fog.
After being exiled from the North for bloodbending an abuser—before facing Zhao and being thrown to the seas for Zuko to find—she'd heard the stories. Prince Zuko died as the Long Night began, caught in the explosion of the Yuurei. And yet, here he was, offering Katara passage to Omashu so she can reunite with her friends.
(Breathing in time with the fires of a ghost ship.)
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Reverse AU:
“Years ago, a spirit showed me a reality in which I was meant to be the Avatar,” Zuko's airbending Master said. “Kyoshi died a century earlier and the Tribes didn't join forces to make the world their hunting ground. The Cycle itself was different, too—elemental opposites didn't succeed one another. It was so marvelous, yet so strange. However, this is our reality, and you're the Avatar.”
Placing a tile on the board, Aang continued, “Perhaps if water wasn't the next element in our Cycle you'd get a free pass, but we're not so lucky. Everyone's out to kill you so the next Avatar will be born in the Water Tribes. If that happens, the world is doomed. So you better get this exercise right, Zuko, or Princess Creepy-Yet-Pretty's going to catch you. And this time, I don't think she'll hold back."
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The reason why those “why ship zutara when you have [ship name]” posts (or any variant of those posts) that are meant to be “funny” or “not anti-zutara” don’t bode with me well at all is because they don’t address any problem. It’s just “don’t bother with that shit, do this instead”. It’s like wanting to erase zutara instead of trying to understand why zutara gets a lot of hate. And you can and go on and on about how “it’s just a joke” “they don’t actually mean it”. Well…THERE WILL ALWAYS BE UNDERLYING ANIMOSITY AND HATRED. But most of the time, like what we’re used to and what we always see, it’s not underlying, quite the opposite actually - overt.
(Just circling back to what I said “doesn’t address any problem”, of course I know the intentions of those types of posts aren’t to solve any problem, I just decided to be more blunt and direct)
Not all people who post stuff like that are the feral anti-zutara types we see go on a rampage. They can be “subtle” about it. They can be the type of fans who relatively stick to what they like and zutara just happens to be something that they don’t like or agree with. Their dislike for zutara will ALWAYS SHOW NO MATTER WHAT. (Just pointing this out cuz it kinda goes hand in hand with the underlying hatred part)
And I’m not only talking about intentionally disguising your words as something else but also like unconsciously doing it. lol does that even make any sense idk anymore 😭
And fine, you can say that they genuinely don’t mean anything bad…fine ffs let’s just put it at that that 😅…it’s still adding fuel to the fire if you ask me. Because you know what??? THEY COULD’VE POSTED ANYTHING WITHOUT DRAGGING ZUTARA INTO IT. So they know what they’re doing. It’s not going to fool me.
That’s why I’m not buying any “oh it’s not hate, just kinda joking around”. I’m not gonna feel bad for them if ZKs do clock them for it.
Don’t use the zutara tag at least if you have any decency because we all know nobody’s gonna stop you from putting zutara down.
I do think that a lot of these people do it unconsciously because they are used to the fandom talking bad about zutara shippers and are genuinely surprised that zutara shippers respond negatively to being talked about in dehumanizing ways and will call them out on their behavior. But that does not make the behavior better. It's really very appalling the amount of times people will say the rudest things and then be like "I didn't knooooowwww! Don't me do meaaaaaaannn." You knew. What happened was you thought people would clap you on the back and no one would call you out.
This is also the same reason we end up with people making racist jokes and expecting to be congratulated for it.
I'd question whether zutara shippers are attacking the character of shippers vs pointing out misogyny, but even so, it's telling that they say nothing of kataang shippers attacking the character of shippers for pointing out misogyny.
On the Broken Parallels Between Zuko and A.ang, Pt. 2
Part 1
Let me tell you about another ATLA fan I know. He was a friend of a friend who participated in my friend group's little rewatch recently. I wasn't excited about him being there, because we've gotten into several heated arguments in the past. You could even say we were...enemies.
Then, during the course of the rewatch, much like Katara and Zuko in the Crystal Catacombs, we very unexpectedly found common ground: he ships Zutara too!
And then I brought up this detail I noticed and, much like Zuko betrayed Katara, he turned on me and said there's no way this has any meaning. He was actually defending Zuko's honor (ha), saying that Zuko would never make emotionally-driven decisions like that. (But also, I'm right and yes Zuko totally would lmao)
TBD if we fight an Agni Kai together, I'll keep you updated.
The detail is:
A.ang here has come fresh from the Guru, where he was told he had to give up his attachment to Katara to master the Avatar state. He had the vision of Katara chained up and left to save her, instead.
That part on its own is fascinating enough. To him and the audience that vision appeared literal, since the preceding scene was Katara getting captured, but it's revealed later that she's not being detained like that at all. She's just chilling with Zuko. So in retrospect was it some clever narrative sleight-of-hand, making us (and A.ang) think it was literal when it should have been read as more metaphorical, about how A.ang is holding on to her? Was she yelling "Let me go!" to her captors, or to A.ang as he was confronting his desire to hold on to his attachment to her?
But I digress. A.ang (and the audience) has just been told that his attachment to Katara might be a problem that'll get in the way of his responsibilities as Avatar. This glare is the first moment in the story that we really see him start to get jealous and possessive over Katara.
And, crucially, Zuko clocks the impressive stinkeye. Then, there's a very interesting missed look back from Katara.
That means that the very next time we see Zuko make eye contact with any of our heroes, he's looking between A.ang and Azula...and he chooses to attack A.ang.
And just as importantly in that moment, Katara's right there, Zuko just had an interesting moment with her, why is his big moment of internal deliberation between A.ang and Azula instead?
They didn't have to animate A.ang glaring at Zuko like that. A.ang has previously tried to offer friendship to Zuko. Why would they waste frames introducing this animosity here? It's obvious that both Katara and Zuko were prisoners when Iroh and A.ang bust them out, and more importantly, they weren't fighting each other. They were staring into each other's eyes with Katara touching his face. A.ang wasn't jealous like this when Katara paid attention to Jet or Haru, so why is he suddenly so out of character?
I think those few frames, where A.ang silently makes sure Zuko knows he will be unwelcome if he defects and joins Team Avatar, is the key to it all.
Because if that's the feather that tips the scale for Zuko, then A.ang's first moment of jealousy over Katara (hot off the heels of being told his attachment to Katara is a problem) is starting to have real consequences. In a way it sets off the catastrophes that are about to unfold in the finale, so his attachment has already started to get in the way of his duties as the Avatar.
This is all perfectly on track still, from a storytelling perspective. This is the end of Act II of a three-act story, so this is the part with a downer ending where all hope seems lost before our heroes' ultimate triumph in the Act III finale.
And, the seeds of Zuko's eventual triumph at the end (fighting with Katara against Azula) are planted here in his biggest failure (fighting with Azula against Katara after a surprising moment of rapprochement with Katara).
The breakdown in the Zuko/A.ang parallel is, there are very clear seeds of a plotline for A.ang's ultimate triumph planted here in his failure as well (choosing his attachment to Katara over properly mastering the Avatar state, and his possessiveness over her immediately causes problems) that never get fulfilled. His chakra ending up blocked has no serious consequences, and he just accesses the Avatar state in the finale thanks to...a rock.
Zuko makes the worst choices he'll make in the entire story here, but A.ang also does. Because of his choices, because he resisted the Guru's guidance, prioritized his crush on Katara, and didn't take an extra few minutes to truly master the Avatar state when he had his vision (which by the way may have been interpreted as what he wanted to hear instead of what it was actually telling him), he briefly dies and Ba Sing Se falls.
The parallel between the two of them isn't broken yet. That happens when Zuko's choices are treated like they matter and they have real consequences that he has to face throughout S3.
A.ang's choices, on the other hand, get fixed for him by plot contrivance.
Because, let me be frank, A.ang makes the villain choice here and he gets away with it.
I don't just mean him lying to Toph and Sokka about mastering the Avatar state and no one ever finding out about that lie...though I do think that shows we were originally supposed to read A.ang's actions in this finale as bad, selfish choices and mistakes all around.
What I mean by him making the villain choice is, it's a quote that has floated around for ages that "a hero will sacrifice the person they love to save the world, but a villain will sacrifice the world to save the person they love." A.ang unambiguously chooses the second option in the S2 finale. That's the textbook villain choice.
Just like with Zuko this doesn't mean he's evil or irredeemable, but he made the villain choice and he needs to dig himself out of that hole. We need to see him redeem his actions here (and we never do).
And to dig in to that quote, choosing the girl over saving the world is the selfish, unheroic option: it's about what's best for you, what you want. But the girl lives in the world, and if you truly care about the girl you'll want what's best for her, and what's best for her is for the world to be saved even if you don't end up with her. What's best for Katara is mastering the Avatar state and ending the war as quickly as possible considering her life is at stake as long as it continues. Ultimately A.ang didn't give up god mode for Katara, he did that for himself--and that's what makes it the villain choice.
Now, again, this doesn't make him a villain, we just have to see him work to fix what he broke (which we don't). But you can look at the S2 finale, the way A.ang and Zuko are both paralleled in their terrible choices at the Crossroads of Destiny, and how the story still makes Zuko redeem his terrible choice throughout S3 (and it's one of the best redemption arcs in recent memory!) but not A.ang...and we can reverse engineer what that might have looked like if the parallels between A.ang and Zuko held.
You can see in the Crossroads of Destiny episode itself that Zuko makes his terrible choice and it sets him up to get everything he ever thought he wanted...and it's all wrong.
It wouldn't be too unbelievable for the original rough outline to have A.ang going through a similar journey--getting increased attention from Katara as he heals in S3, a romantic relationship with her seeming more possible than it ever has before (mostly because she feels guilty about him almost dying), and A.ang slowly realizing that it's tainted because her affection is built on lies and half-truths.
Hey, doesn't this sound like the Bato of the Water Tribe episode is foreshadowing this internal crisis for A.ang, now?
Just like Zuko, we could have seen him getting everything he thought he wanted and realizing that it was all wrong. We could have seen him do some soul-searching, confronting his mistakes, realizing that his attachment to Katara is getting in the way of his duty to end the war and he needs to come clean and work to earn the Avatar state properly if he truly, selflessly cares about Katara.
And, as a side note, this is another root cause of why many people prefer Zutara over kata.ang: we see onscreen that Zuko radically and selflessly sacrifices himself for Katara because it's what's best for her, and we see onscreen that A.ang chooses his crush on Katara even though that's not in Katara's best interest--he does what's best for himself.
I think Bryke were afraid that holding A.ang accountable for his actions would drive a wedge between Katara and A.ang--and it would, for a time, but they could have reconciled and ended up with a stronger relationship--but what we got instead is even worse for their desired outcome: Zuko being very selfless towards Katara, and A.ang being very selfish.
This is the exact point where A.ang and Zuko's parallels most directly intersect, and it's also the last point like that in the series before the parallel between them starts to really break down, never to be fully restored (much to the detriment of A.ang's journey as a character).
The way we could have had A.ang influencing Zuko's worst choice and Zuko influencing A.ang's worst choice at the same time if they had been willing to draw out that parallel...We could have seen Zuko and A.ang simultaneously wrestling with the consequences of their worst mistakes, two sides of the same coin, destined to meet in the middle. We could have had a double redemption arc, we could have had all the parallels and narrative interplay and polyvalent storytelling...
And instead we get a dance party and whatever the heck Nightmares and Daydreams was, all in service of making sure Katara never finds out about A.ang's villain choice so kata.ang can happen.
(And I'm not even going to touch whatever was going on with A.ang appearing to meditate into the Avatar state right before he got hit by lightning. Did he have to let go of Katara to achieve that or was he trying to access the uncontrolled Avatar state without letting go of her properly? Was he saying "I'm sorry" to Katara because he was meditating himself into letting go of his attachment to her, or was he saying it because he promised her at the start of the season she wouldn't have to see him like that again? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ We don't know! It's literally never addressed! We never hear about what exactly was going on in A.ang's head there! We're told by the Guru that he had to let got of Katara if he wanted to access the Avatar state again, and yet there appear to be no consequences to this in S3. His attachment to Katara seems as strong and unhealthy as ever by the end of the show, so what do we even do with that?)
On the Broken Parallels Between Zuko and A.ang, Pt. 1
(And no, this isn't about how they erased Zuko's scar in the movie)
(Although that also fits here)
Once again arguing good-naturedly with the kata.ang shipper I know in real life, I brought up the thematic and symbolic significance of Zutara.
And she said, "I actually think A.ang is more of a parallel to Zuko."
I...disagree. Oh, they tried to make that parallel happen, I can see it in the S1 bit about how the Avatar means hope to Zuko too (though that also plays into the Zuko/Katara parallel), in Zuko struggling with lightning bending while at the same time as A.ang is struggling with earthbending, in the Roku/Sozin connection, in the (now irrelevant) matching lightning scars. I can see it. They just do something from a writing perspective, for all the wrong reasons, that ruins it.
First of all, I'm going to be lazy and use "foils" and "parallels" a little interchangeably. They have technical definitions and they're different, I know. It'd take forever to spell out, point-by-point, the ways in which Zuko is a foil to Katara or A.ang, and the ways in which he's paralleling them. Maybe someone with more interest in that project than me can tease it out properly, but that's a little too into the weeds for what I'm saying right now.
Suffice to say, the characters are connected, and the narrative regularly holds them up against each other to compare (parallel) or contrast (foil) them so that we, the audience, can see the connection.
Characters can be foils or parallels to multiple other characters in multiple ways at the same time. It might be a weird rec for explaining this, but check out Kaguya-Sama: Love is War. It has a seemingly simple high school romcom anime setup. Don't be fooled. In terms of storytelling this show is first of all, hilarious, and second of all, deceptively brilliant. Like, study it if you want to tell good stories. Each of the five main characters is perfectly crafted to bounce off of each of the other four characters in such a way that all you have to do is stick two, or three, or all of them together in a room and conflicts and chaos between them will arise naturally. And the two romantic leads being perfect foils and parallels of each other in a particular way doesn't detract from them also being foils and parallels to the other three main characters at the same time.
So yes, the narrative can be doing something with Zuko and Katara's connection as complimentary opposites (sun and moon, fire and water, summer and winter) that spend the show circling each other and figuring out how to go from conflict to harmony, and at the same time have Zuko explicitly compare A.ang to Azula, and at the same time have parallels between Azula and Katara, and at the same time have Zuko and A.ang start opposite each other to go on kind of a mirrored journey that ends with them meeting in the middle (which is also similar to what happens with Katara and Zuko!).
Polyvalent storytelling is best storytelling (and yes, that's a Kaguya-sama reference!), and I think there's a lot of it in ATLA. That's why we're still talking about it decades later: There's multiple layers and connections to everything going on there.
So with that point out of the way, I keep coming back to the Crossroads of Destiny episode. I think S1 of the show is pretty great, S2 is pretty much perfect, and the finale sets up for a very, very delicious high-stakes S3. And then the first half of S3 turns into a strangely-paced, shockingly low-tension, filler episode bonanza. It starts to come together a bit better around the Day of Black Sun but there's still lots of bad character-writing decisions and plot holes.
The end of S3 is great in a lot of ways because it's the culmination of all three seasons of this story, but it doesn't quite gel together the same way the S2 finale does. There are too many unresolved or poorly resolved plots whereas the S2 finale is jam-packed with so many different characters and plotlines being woven together, without missing a beat.
My kata.ang friend claims that "there just wasn't enough time to cover everything." But these are the same writers who pulled off the S2 finale in a single episode (maaaybe two if you want to count The Guru as Part 1, but unlike most other two-parters in the series this isn't named like a two parter which is a weird anomaly) and made it look nearly effortless. By the end of S2, almost all of the characters that are heavily involved in S3 are introduced. It's not as if the job got exponentially harder because there were so many more characters and their associated plotlines to juggle. And, recall, the S3 finale takes not one, not two, but four episodes. So yes, there was enough time, and the talent and skill to use the time allotted.
Except...you might notice that the parts of S3 where the ball was dropped involve specifically A.ang. His lack of development and narrative focus in a lot of the early episodes in the season, even though he's the main character coming back from a serious defeat and he should be locking in right about now? End-of-series A.ang and Katara doing nothing but arguing with no resolution until suddenly they're making out in the last shot? A.ang getting emotional and running off, only to get supernaturally waylaid and disappear, i.e. him retreading the same exact mistake that started the entire story at the very end, demonstrating a complete lack of growth on his part, only to immediately get rewarded for it with TWO dei ex machina in a row? And, a huge problem considering who the main character is supposed to be, the stakes and drama of A.ang's big final fight with Ozai somehow feel less significant than the final showdown of Zuko v. Azula (or, frankly, even Toph, Sokka, and Suki's death-defying adventures taking down a fleet of zeppelins). And what about the Rock of Destiny? Anyone?
I contend that Zuko and Katara's thematic parallels get carried through to the very end, culminating in that last Agni Kai. It's excellent. It's probably the best part of the finale. And essays upon essays have been written about that. Here's a really good short one!
It's A.ang and Zuko's parallels that get chunked big time, in service of making sure that kata.ang happens. And it starts (or ends) with one specific moment in the Crossroads of Destiny.
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Speaking of audacity, let's talk about "my interpretation of this fictional character is the only valid one, if you disagree it means you hate her, waaaaaahhh"
as much as I hate bryke cancelling a project to focus on another, I'm kinda relieved that zuko movie was scrapped because it bothers me how they were gonna use smoke and shadow as inspiration, but not as source. so are they gonna start pretending that those comics they co-wrote and greenlit don't exist? since when are they backtracking this much on things they decided to make public?
Honestly, it doesn't surprise me, because the problem with doing a Zuko movie is that there are things that would need to be addressed that had already been explored in the comics, and as I said before, they are not going to make a movie that builds on things only mentioned in the comics, so they would either have to ignore the comics, or adapt them.
But then, if you choose to adapt, you run into the issue of adapting a story that has already been told and widely regarded as sub-par.
To me, this is also why the Aang movie was very hands off with anything going on in the Fire Nation.
Now, an adaptation of a bad source material that improves upon its source is not a bad idea, but Smoke and Shadow is not the one I would pick. The obvious place to start, if you are going to ignore the comics, is Ursa, since the question of where she is was so blatantly teased in the series finale.
I also think there could have been an opportunity to explore some of the things that the comics should have focused on. Like how Zuko got Druk.
But probably just as well to leave those things to fanfic.
Katara rises with the moon, which means that, often, the part of the day she looks forward to the most is laying in bed after the sun has gone down, just watching Zuko sleep.
Sometimes she'll see him shift in the bed, reaching for something she cannot see, his lips parted in a silent cry, his fingers outstretched to try and absorb the lighting that he still sees behind his eyelids, coming for her.
Gently, Katara curls her fingers around his outstretched hand, and lays it down on the pillow between them, stroking the fingers until he calms down.
Why have you started going on properly tagged posts? Mostly you don't, but it seemed like that post saying the non-con kiss was okay seemed properly tagged, or did they change the tags?
The post was tagged #aang, #katara, and #kataang. None of those tags preclude me from responding to it. If they want to make a post complaining about zutara shippers and misrepresenting zutara shippers' arguments with misogyny, then they should tag it anti zutara or antizutara if they do not want zutara shippers to respond.
Further, even if I was a kataang shipper, I think I should be allowed to comment about how the representation of Aang kissing Katara against her will as not harmful to Katara and only done to "reassure her" is rape culture bullshit. Certainly if a post like this is put in the Katara tag, and not tagged with any anti tags, that means all Katara fans should be allowed to respond, regardless of what they ship. Especially when the post is so egregiously disregarding Katara's feelings and bodily autonomy.
Also, if it was just that one post, idk why you framed this as me "starting" to go on properly tagged posts, which implies a pattern that you admit does not exist.
I think I saw it once before (in similar circumstances, so the explanation covers both), which is why I said 'starting'.
Would you say tagging 'anti anti kataang' would be how someone would keep us away? Because I always thought in general kataang shippers shouldn't be coming on posts tagged zutara, but by this logic that'd be okay and we have to use anti anti zutara?
Don't get me wrong I absolutely agree said post was disregarding Katara's feelings and bodily autonomy, I just am worried that logic makes it okay for kataang shippers to come into comments and reblog properly tagged zutara posts. (I mean they already do to some extent, but that's annoying and I wish they wouldn't.)
What post that I reblogged did you see it on before? Still, "starting to" feels like an accusation which I am obviously going to push back against.
The thing is, the post was specifically about zutara shippers' arguments against kataang, not just an "I like kataang" post. Whenever I talk about how I don't like kataang or am responding to kataang shippers' arguments, I always tag it antikataang. I would say that if it had an "anti anti kataang" tag, even if it didn't have an anti zutara tag, I would not comment on it, unless it was also cross-tagged.
the reason why I don't like Kataang is not because of looks, self insert shipping, or anything like that. I don't like Kataang because I don't like how it's written. the show portrays the way Aang acts towards Katara as being totally fine and not at all dismissive of her as a person, and I don't like that. it has nothing to do with Zuko atp, even if he wasn't close to Katara by the end of the show I and many others would still dislike Kataang. Bryke has had years to write Katara and Aang's relationship better and they haven't done shit.
Kataang being canon isn't enough to make it a good ship. it's sweet in concept, but not in execution. this has nothing to do with Zutara, and everything to do with Kataang being a poorly written romance.
and i don't think their shippers even comprehend that. like, just because you can look past things (or even find it endearing) like aang nodding at the "avatar's girl" comment, doesn't mean everyone else can. just because you're satisfied with very clear romantic interest from one side and barely three moments of reciprocation (after being dismissed as a sweet lil guy) from the other character doesn't mean everyone else can. just because you can divorce the creators' influence and intent from the ship (babysitter dynamic), doesn't mean everyone else is "stupid or wrong."
where they see "yearning" I see entitlement. I see pedestaling (on both sides). that just isn't appealing to me.
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Why have you started going on properly tagged posts? Mostly you don't, but it seemed like that post saying the non-con kiss was okay seemed properly tagged, or did they change the tags?
The post was tagged #aang, #katara, and #kataang. None of those tags preclude me from responding to it. If they want to make a post complaining about zutara shippers and misrepresenting zutara shippers' arguments with misogyny, then they should tag it anti zutara or antizutara if they do not want zutara shippers to respond.
Further, even if I was a kataang shipper, I think I should be allowed to comment about how the representation of Aang kissing Katara against her will as not harmful to Katara and only done to "reassure her" is rape culture bullshit. Certainly if a post like this is put in the Katara tag, and not tagged with any anti tags, that means all Katara fans should be allowed to respond, regardless of what they ship. Especially when the post is so egregiously disregarding Katara's feelings and bodily autonomy.
Also, if it was just that one post, idk why you framed this as me "starting" to go on properly tagged posts, which implies a pattern that you admit does not exist.
Yet another critic, im aware that this is a very hot take but im willing to share my thoughts:
Looking at how LOK handles Katara vs Toph in their older years reveals a contrast in how women who live for themselves are framed compared to those who settle into traditional roles. Since the beginning of Avatar Toph was written as self absorbed in the best way possible. Fiercely independent, and completely unconcerned with traditional female norms or romantic desirability (more or less). Yet in LOK, that exact independence is framed as undesirable. Toph never marries, has two daughters with two different fathers, and becomes a neglectful, emotionally distant mother whose hands off approach leaves her family broken and lands her living alone in a swamp. Meanwhile, Katara is portrayed as the ideal, desirable wife who has Aang’s children and lives out her days as a respected widow. What makes this framing even more frustrating is their physical roles,Toph is still out fighting and participating as a warrior in her old age, while Katara completely reverts to a passive healerthe exact role she fought so hard against Master Pakku to prove she was more than. It almost leaves the audience (young girls) with an uncomfortable subtext: see girls? This is why you don't live entirely for yourself, or you'll end up like Toph, manless and destructive, too wild to tame. Toph’s choices weren't inherently wrong, but the narrative writes her self reliance as a flaw that costs her a healthy family, punishing the woman who refused to conform while rewarding the one who stepped into traditional domesticity.
Yes I do remember that Su and Lin forgive Toph and grow together as a family. This post is more so about desirability to men, and what compromising with a man right will earn you.
I had a convo on a post similar to this one on reddit, here is the original text, I wanted to share my opinion as well as this is a pretty taboo topic, I hope i developed it more to my opinion instead of recycling words, I tried my best
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