Blessed be the Cheesemakers

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If the Bosnian Genocide is has been ruled a genocide and the death count was 33,071 people, how is what is happening in Gaza not a genocide when the number has been surpassed

Because genocide is not about the number of people being killed. Genocide is a specific legal term, and it has to have two components: 1) obviously people have to be murdered -- but this must be done systemically, as a policy (either written or unwritten) of the belligerent party. AND 2) there has to be genocidal intention to murder said people. Genocidal intention means that Party A (Israel) murders Party B (Palestinians) specifically because those people belong to Party B (Palestinians). There is no evidence that Israel has a genocidal intention. In fact, the October 7th massacre was actually a genocidal act on behalf of Hamas - Hamas committed the genocidal action and has been committing genocidal actions for over 20 years, because they specifically want to murder Jews for being Jewish. They also meet the first criteria because this is a systemic policy that is present in the Hamas Charter.

This is very important to distinguish because whilst genocide is a war crime, not all war crimes are genocide. Israel has committed war crimes, including murdering civilians, and even intentionally allowing civilians to be killed (such as bombing a house with a Hamas member in it and killing his family members). But this is not sufficient to rise to the criteria of genocide. We could make the argument that there is ethnic cleansing, because the vast majority of the people being evacuated are of a single ethnicity, Palestinian. However, again, ethnic cleansing alone is not sufficient to rise to the definition of genocide.

Crucially, the ICJ has not ruled that there is a genocide ongoing. They have ruled prima facie that 1) South Africa has the right to accuse Israel of genocide, and 2) that the ICJ itself is fit to hear and rule on the accusation. They have also ordered Hamas to release the civilian hostages, so if Hamas is saying they want to abide by the ICJ, they have already disregarded the ICJ ruling.

Genocide is not based on vibes. It's not based on bad feelings. It's not based on videos and images of dead kids, or destroyed rubble. Genocide is a specific legal term that can only be applied to the above scenario, and it cheapens our language when we levy it in circumstances where it does not apply. It especially cheapens our language when we engage in Holocaust inversion by claiming Israel is doing to Palestine what Germany did to the Jews, which is categorically false.

Beyond this, it belittles the groups that are involved in this conflict, particularly Hamas, to treat them like they are innocent civilians when they are in fact a very well-outfitted military brigade and the official armed forces of the Gazan government with over 40,000 fighters strong, who repeatedly and loudly say "death to Israel, we want to annihilate Israel, we will commit October 7th again and again until Israel is destroyed." They are being funded by the IRGC, they are being used as a proxy for Iran, and innocent Palestinian civilians are suffering as a result. Hamas has openly said that the "blood of martyrs fuels our resistance," they have openly said they hope Palestinian civilians die in droves while they steal aid and resell it at absurd mark-ups, while they flee to Egypt and Qatar so that they don't have to get their hands dirty. They recruit and brainwash young children to fight their "holy war" to murder as many Jews as possible.

And in terms of the death toll, you have to understand that this war is being fought in an urban environment where the belligerents are embedded purposely in the civilian population, in tunnels all throughout the civilian infrastructure. Violating the Geneva Conventions by using hospitals and schools as military bases, refusing to wear uniforms, and intentionally shooting their own people and blaming Israel.

Right off the bat we have a misrepresentation of the definition of genocide. @weemietime focuses on minor technicalities while ignoring piles and piles of evidence of policies and actions by Israel that literally constitute as genocidal practices (targeting civilians and systemic displacement just as some examples). You're cherry picking definitions while numerous human rights organizations, international bodies, and scholars smarter than you have provided proof that Israel is committing a genocide. Stop ignoring real world indicators

Intent can be inferred from actions, policies, and outcomes. So don't dismiss the systemic nature of Israeli war crimes. The intent is 100% there.

Deflection is sad. Stop bringing up Hamas as an attempt to absolve Israel of its war crimes. This false equivalency is a distraction from the core accusation. You tried. Also don't even get me started on the absolute bad faith argument that Hamas uses human shields when we've literally seen Israel do that. Also saying that absolves Israel of carrying out the LARGE MAJORITY of civilian deaths.

Holocaust Comparison Strawman. Drawing parallels in systemic oppression isnt equivalence. Not even a smart argument. We aren't dumb.

The civilian-to-combatant death ratio is misleadingly cited to minimize civilian harm while justifying indiscriminate targeting in densely populated areas.

"The vast majority of people being evacuated are a single ethnicity, Palestinian."

Nobody else is allowed to live in Gaza. All Israelis left in 2006.

If a war occurs in a place where there's only a single ethnicity, then only a single ethnicity is going to fall victim to the war. The argument that Palestinians are being targeted falls apart when you realize they're the only ones there. This is like France starting a war with Belgium and people wailing that in France, only French people are dying. Yes, of course it's only the French who are dying, that's who lives in France! Of course it's only Palestinians, they're the only ones who live in Gaza!

What is happening in Gaza is a humanitarian crisis. It is not a genocide, and what's more, it is far from the worst humanitarian crisis going on in the world today. There are literally people in Rwanda begging for a fraction of the attention Gaza is getting. There are more people starving to death in Sudan than live in all of Gaza and over a million of them are children. China is committing three separate genocides right now!

Don't trust the UN? Fine, the International Association of Genocide Scholars (IAGS) have released a statement that Israel's conduct meets the legal definition as laid out in the UN convention on genocide. https://genocidescholars.org/wp-content/uploads/2025/08/IAGS-Resolution-on-Gaza-FINAL.pdf

Pretending what's happening in Gaza isn't a genocide is either being wilfully ignorant or wilfully despicable.

There's no doubt in my mind that many people speaking up against the atrocities being committed by the Israel government are doing so because they're anti-semitic and not because they actually care about the loss of human life, but that does not negate the fact crimes at the level of purposeful genocide are being committed by Israel.

As for everything else I am once again asking you people to do the bare minimum lol "b-but the UN said so!" sure they did, based on a report that on page 101 says "we need to change the definition of genocide to apply it to Israel" I'm sure there are no credibility issues there at all :-)

Hmm, Francesca Albanese who was such an antisemitic ghoul that she was straight up fired and whose rhetoric is barely above "Jews are cockroaches and vermin" said it was a genocide... we better stop everything....

Literally no, "events don't speak for themselves" in any legal process ever lol. You don't have events right now, you have accusations. Mf like "why can't the eVeNts [that are unproven] speak for themselves???"

aka "why can't you stop demanding evidence and just accept 'genocide' and 'ethnic cleansing' as a series of rage syllables instead?"

Genocide is a legal term, dipshit. Genocide is a crime that you are convicted of based on evidence and definition, not "a lot of people died and I feel badsies."

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They are animals like cows, sheep, monkeys and camels and made for men's use.

He gave them human form so men wouldn't be afraid of them."

- Ayatollah Sadiq al-Shirazi, senior Iranian regime cleric.

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At least in the current climate it has very little to do with ‘convincing’ and much more to do with imprinting on the subconscious through psychological warfare

A leaked EU threat assessment seen by RFE/RL warns that terrorism and violent extremism "pose a significant threat to the EU," citing heightened risks from Afghanistan and Iran as well as negative spillover effects from the war in Ukraine.

The threat level in the EU, according to the assessment, "remains high" with "Islamist/jihadist terrorism" remaining the most prominent concern. That evaluation echoes that of Europol, the bloc's common law enforcement agency, which in March described the terrorist threat as "acute."

The 23-page document -- prepared by the Council of the European Union, which represents the governments of the 27 EU member states -- mostly covers developments and trends from 2025, instead of threats connected to the ongoing war in Iran. Despite that, the assessment still warns that the "escalation" in Iran has "raised additional concerns, such as the possible activation of proxy networks or sleeping cells to conduct retaliatory terrorist attacks within Europe," in particular in "countries with large or significant Jewish and Muslim communities."

On Afghanistan, the leaked threat assessment warns that the Islamic State Khorasan Province, a regional branch of the extremist group, is "one of the main external threats" to the Continent, adding the group "continues to be active, including in the spreading of online propaganda, targeting in particular young people."

There have been few confirmed terrorist attacks in Europe this year, but two Jewish men were recently stabbed in London in what British police described as a terror incident. That attack was claimed by Harakat Ashab Al-Yamin Al-Islamia, a pro-Iranian Islamist group with suspected links to Iran's Islamic Revolutionary Guards Corps (IRGC).

The leaked document describes how the nature of threats has evolved: "Organized terrorist networks have lost much of their former operational reach, but the potential for individual actors to commit violence based on extremist inspiration persists."

As with the recent London attack, the assessment notes that attacks and plots by Islamists "predominantly involve easily accessible and unsophisticated means, in particular bladed and blunt force weapons, firearms, or improvised explosive devices and vehicles, with simple modus operandi."

One alarming new trend highlighted is the recruitment of minors as young as 12, especially on online platforms such as Telegram and TikTok. In response, one of the policy recommendations is that the EU should request these platforms slow down their so-called algorithmic amplification, which would make it much harder for minors to discover and engage with extremist content online.

The threat assessment notes the "impact of Russia's war of aggression against Ukraine on the terrorist threat both in Europe and globally has so far been limited." But, at the same time, it warns that the flow of small arms and explosives coming from the war zone "will have consequences in the medium and long term."

The lawyers of a Palestinian Gazan man have made a formal submission to the International Criminal Court (ICC) prosecutor demanding that 14 Hamas leaders be investigated for crimes committed against the Palestinian people.

To date, the ICC has not charged even one Hamas leader with any crimes committed against their own civilians. This is despite the fact that the ICC has charged leaders of Hamas and Israel with crimes committed against each other’s populations during the Israel-Hamas War.

This submission, therefore, marks the first such filing by a Palestinian against Hamas.

One of the two American attorneys, Elliot Malin, revealed this exclusively to The Jerusalem Post on Friday. Malin was joined by Eli Rosenbaum, a former senior US Justice Department war crimes prosecutor, and French attorney Sarah Scialom.

The 40-page article demands that 14 named Hamas leaders be investigated for crimes committed against the Palestinian people, with an eye toward the issuance of warrants for their arrest.

The client is a Palestinian civilian from Gaza who lost his wife, children, and other family members in the war in Gaza.

The submission demonstrates that if Hamas had not committed these war crimes and other crimes against the Palestinian people, the client’s family and countless other Palestinians would be alive today.

The submission includes the following war crimes: utilizing the presence of civilians or other protected persons as human shields; attacking civilians; intentionally directing attacks against civilian objects; willfully causing great suffering; destruction and appropriation of property; excessive incidental death, injury, or damage; attacking protected objects; committing outrages upon personal dignity; using, conscripting, or enlisting children; sentencing or execution without due process.

The submission also includes the following crimes against humanity: murder, extermination, torture, and persecution.

The lengthy submission documents that the best known of Hamas’s premeditated crimes, the use of Palestinian civilians as human shields and indeed human sacrifices, was the war crime that was principally responsible for the high death toll and extensive destruction experienced in Gaza.

This crime is in direct violation of the 1949 Geneva Convention.

The Hamas leaders identified in the submission are Izz al-Din al-Haddad, Khaled Mashaal, Mahmoud al-Zahar, Mohammed Odeh, Muhannad Rajab, Khalil al-Hayya, Mousa Abu Marzook, Ghazi Hamad, Izzat al-Rishq, Fathi Hamad, Nizar Awadallah, Husam Badran, Zaher Jabarin, and Basem Naim.

'Palestinian people deserve justice'

“The Palestinian people, including our client, deserve justice for the atrocities committed against them by Hamas, with the full backing of Iran’s leaders,” said Malin.

“To this day, the ICC’s Office of the Prosecutor (OTP) has not investigated, let alone sought warrants for, crimes cynically committed by Hamas and its accomplices against Palestinians during the war.”

Malin continued that “pursuing such justice goes to the heart of the mission of the OTP and the International Criminal Court, which it serves. Failing this mission means failing to deliver equal access to justice for those whom the court has ruled fall under its jurisdiction.”

Malin said that, if the Prosecutor and International Criminal Court refuse to seek justice for Palestinians who have been victimized by Hamas, the court “must ask OTP why the Gazan victims of Hamas inhumanity are being denied full justice.”

“Had Hamas’s fighters instead fought in compliance with longstanding international law rather than by hiding behind and underneath Gazan civilian men, women, and children, the civilian death toll would undoubtedly have been only a fraction of what it was,” Rosenbaum said.

“The credibility of international criminal justice rests on its ability to deliver swift accountability for crimes of this magnitude,” said Scialom.

“OTP’s continuing failure to pursue justice on behalf of Hamas’s deceased and displaced Palestinian victims in Gaza helps incentivize the repeated commission of such crimes as an effective geopolitical strategy, and it keeps the victimized Gazan community in the dark about essential facts of their victimization.”

Christianity is supposed to stand for freedom, justice, compassion, and peace. But what kind of peace ignores the suffering of millions? What kind of moral leadership honors representatives of a regime responsible for brutal repression, executions, terrorism, and the destruction of countless lives across the Middle East?

How can the pain of the Iranian people be ignored so easily?

More than 40,000 young Iranian souls have been taken by this bloodthirsty regime. Mothers still mourn their children. Families still wait for justice. Entire generations have grown up under fear, torture, imprisonment, violence and executions.

And yet their representatives are welcomed, honored, and rewarded.

What message does this send to the victims? To the mothers whose hearts were broken? To the young people who sacrificed everything for freedom?

Peace without justice is not peace.

Dialogue without accountability becomes hypocrisy.

And honoring the representatives of oppression while victims remain unheard is not reconciliation, it is betrayal.

If religion is truly meant to unite humanity, it cannot do so by covering up crimes, silencing victims, or legitimizing cruelty. The world should stand with the oppressed, not decorate those monsters.

This is not dignity.

This is not justice.

And for many people who have suffered under this islamic regime, it feels absolutely disgusting.

Still the papacy let a child killing terrorist in that gathering, shook hands with him and included him among the recipients of that award instead of kicking him out or cutting relations with these blood thirsty mullahs all these years

If you check the articles, you’ll see that the award was not presented by Pope Leo, just some random employee. That’s a faked AI image meant to assert that the church supports the regime. The award was not even presented in person, if I remember correctly.

The papacy has been working against the regime in its ways for a long time, and this award isn’t really an award; the articles establish that it’s basically a participation trophy meant to maintain diplomatic ties the regime a bit in the hopes of encouraging peace instead of doing what the west did with North Korea and just leaving them alone to do whatever crimes they want. The papacy has to maintain a careful balancing act as the most powerful religious force in the world. I don’t agree with it, but that’s the situation.

"Israel shouldn't exist!!!!!!" OK, but counter point,

It does.

And it's not gonna go away, at least not in any of our lifetimes. So instead of talking about destroying Israel you should focus on actual solutions to help Palestinians *now*

And that includes collaborating with israelis and trying to get the moderate ones to be more left leaning. Seeing the pro palestinian movment refuse to condem killing and murders of Jews in diaspora is not very reassuring to Jews back in Israel

And like... You know, for a while, that was a popular idea!

And then the entire fucking world proved that Jews aren't safe, and that we cannot trust anyone but us to protect us. And all of the assimilationists and the Bundists were fucking murdered in the Shoah and all the other atrocities that followed.

The world wishes to say it gave a damn about the Jews at the time and that WW2 was waged against the deepest moral horrors of the Nazis. It needs to expiate its unique, civilization-level indifference to the extermination of its Jews. It is clear from the way that Europe has always spoken to Israel that it considers its sins well-compensated, and from the way the US does that it never had any doubts—cultural, military, spiritual—in the first place. Many brave soldiers may, at a personal level, have fought to save the Jews. Their governments did not. Western Civilization went to war not to save the Jews, but to save itself from the world-conquering monster it had midwifed, the man who invaded Poland, whose allies bombed Pearl Harbor. The camps were liberated and documented in the best spirit of, “See what the war enemy is like.” Thus anti-Nazi sentiment became a civilizational self-absolution. The Nazis were declared the enemy without having to pay a dime. And the Jews were admitted, magnanimously, as evidence.

The often-genuine empathy of the individual toward the holocaust is natural, spontaneous, and totally uneducated. As soon as they ask, “But how did this happen?” a thousand “educators” step in and start talking about things they invariably would have opposed anyway had Jews never existed. They say it was nationalism, or populism, or right-wingism, or anti-communism, or dehumanization, or a bad Treaty of Versailles unleashing powerful economic forces, or the alienation of modernity and the death of G-d. Whatever it was, you see, we, the right-thinking, we whose minds are shaped by the same ideas and swim in the same waters, we, the creators of the One True Rational Hermetically-Sealed Dichotomy, are not to blame. It was not the culmination of our civilization. The holocaust was aberrant, and so obviously aberrant that everything other than the one side of the True Dichotomy can be forgiven as a bad turn down a wrong road. The project is good. Heidegger, and the churches, and art, and liberalism, and enlightenment humanism, and communism, and family values are not to blame for this. What’s that, Jew? Oct. 7 is a Nazi crime? Because it’s obviously mass Jew murder? Why would a Jew have any say about what a Nazi is? In fact, muddying the waters and crossing the dichotomies and saying this type of person could be a Nazi makes you the disgraceful one, Jew. You’re misusing the holocaust, whose lessons about universal human brotherhood and giving peace a chance are well known. You obviously don’t care about the memory of the six million. The Jews have sunk so far since the holocaust…"

I wish this was a surprise.

JVP doesn’t care about peace. nor Jews, for that matter.