Hi, I'm Sarnakh! he/him, adult. I write things, I paint things, and I very very occasionally Do A Draw. Shameless Julzia (Julian/Jadzia) shipper. Warhammer, Star Trek, Honor Harrington, The Expanse, and more. @SarnakhTheSunderer on AO3.
@hopecomesbacktolife asked for Star Trek/drworm recs, so I’ve finally gone and put one together
- @icepixie‘s the wonder that’s keeping the stars apart series, in which Jadzia finally says yes
- Scientific Collaborations and what we pretend to be, also by icepixie, the latter of which is a phenomenal fake-relationship-to-real-relationship fic predicated on typical Star Trek ‘oh no we’re stuck together’ shenangians. The former is just the two of them being nerds in love, which is my favorite flavor of drworm
You Can Have My Heart, written by SkullFeather3063 for their One-Shot Rare Pair Palooza a couple of years ago. Jadzia gets hurt, and Julian takes care of her. Established relationship
put a sock in it! by anonymous. Technically the only J/J in this fic is fantasizing, but I’ve always liked it. Rated Explicit.
No Strings Attached by @starpriseentership (if I’ve correctly linked Ao3 and tumblr), rated M.
Dark Dreams by kronette, a vampire AU fic. I haven’t read it in a while but it’s very good. Vampirism begets horror elements, so keep that in mind as you read.
Aristeia by @mylittleredgirl , a phenomenal oneshot following the events of Profit Motive
and finally to wrap the Julian/Jadzia fic recs up specifically, we have the Greensleves AU on fanfiction.net by ScopesMonkey, with some sequels slash associated works on the author’s profile, and I think the longest J/J fic/series I’ve ever read.
My own Julian/Jadzia fics number three currently (not counting an Evil Author Day fic from a couple of years ago that’s just scraps/unfinished ficlets):
Beaches of Chi’tar, AKA Julian meets the Idaris Family for Trill Thanksgiving. 9k oneshot that got wildly out of hand
Various drabbles in my Star Trek drabble collection
And We Are Dax, an AU where the Trill symbiotes behave like the Venom Symbiotes and at the moment is just a rewrite of Tears of the Prophets (and of the readers) with some minor J/J elements I intend to expand on eventually.
I’ll put some very old J/J fics I haven’t seen anywhere else in a reblog, as well as some more generic ds9 fic recs, but I wanted to have this as its own separate post so I can throw this at people later if convert more frens :D
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There are definitely times when I read about the production of TOS episodes and am 100% on the side of the production team nixing some OOC or thematically inappropriate element suggested by the writer. Like, yes, the team was shitty to Harlan Ellison, but their revisions to "The City on the Edge of Forever" were completely correct IMO.
However, not to Tarsus IV monologue all the time, but it's kind of remarkable to me how the more ambiguous details in "The Conscience of the King" raise questions that get all these unnecessarily complicated explanations in different iterations of ST, yet are much more elegantly and effectively explained by some of Barry Trivers's own concepts for the backstory. It was the production team that forced him to obscure exactly what happened, not his own preference as a writer. Like!!
Q1— The basic premise of the episode is that Kirk is one of only nine survivors who personally saw and heard Kodos deliver his speech to those slated for death. None of the other eyewitnesses are related to Kirk as far as we have any reason to believe, and Kodos's rationale for who got killed was based on eugenics, so it's not clear how both of Kirk's own parents could a) survive without b) also being eyewitnesses, unless they were assigned to a different group than him, which raises questions about the eugenics of it all. It's possible that they weren't on Tarsus IV at all, but then, why would they send their young son to a remote Terran colony in the first place?
A: In Trivers's concept, Kirk's parents were totally killed on Tarsus IV.
At the very least, George Kirk was killed there (the Kirk parents hadn't actually been named at this point, but I'll use George and Winona for convenience). Trivers's plan envisioned George's profession as rather like his son Sam's, a sort of Starfleet researcher leading a team of other scientists on the colony. Their work seems to have involved a long-term project, so it makes sense that Kirk (senior) would have brought his young son with him; in this version, the Kirks had already been living on Tarsus IV for five years when Kodos came to power.
(The timeline established in "Shore Leave," produced very close in time to "The Conscience of the King," would confirm Kirk's youth from this version. When the Kirks arrived on Tarsus IV in this version, 25 years before the main events of the planned episode, Kirk could have been no more than 9 given the information in "Shore Leave," and was more likely 7 or 8. S2 later establishes that he would have been 8, with TOS!Sam Kirk envisioned as ten years older, so 18 and off on his own career. Five years later, during the final genocide, James Kirk would have only been 13.)
Anyway, in this version, there was a lot of upheaval that led to Kodos coming to power in the first place, and George's opposition to Kodos's faction got him killed. We don't know if Kirk's mother was involved with this or not, or even present or not, but if she was, there's no reason to assume she was magically spared in the long run, either.
If anything, the implication that George would have lived if he'd been willing to play nice, and his son surviving that incident only to later be found among the eyewitnesses to the execution speech, could suggest that it may have been Winona rather than George who was considered genetically inferior by Kodos's eugenics rationales. If so, she would have been among those executed, still leaving Kirk as the only eyewitness from his family.
(There's an idea I've seen floating around, I'm guessing derived from the AOS movies, that Kirk's "genetic inferiority" is due to some idiosyncratic disability rather than anything to do with his family. There's no hint of him having that kind of disability in TOS, though, which repeatedly confirms that he enjoys perfect physical health apart from tension headaches and a bit of yo-yo dieting. Even the idea that he has bad allergies seems pretty unlikely in TOS, to go by his repeated interactions with flowers.)
In any case, the idea of Kodos escalating from an already-brutal rise to power to full-on genocide, with casualties like George Kirk along the way, was removed by the demands of the production staff rather than Trivers's own vision. The higher-ups didn't want so many family details nailed down so early, restricting what TOS could do with Kirk's parents later. Trivers ended up coming up with an alternate scenario in which Kirk would have to be older than Shatner really was at the time (rather than slightly younger), removing the whole question of Kirk's parents by having him be a young midshipman selected for survival during the genocide. But that backstory was also removed before the episode was filmed, iirc, and certainly isn't in the aired version (I don't know if any reason for this removal has been given; it's internally contradictory in multiple ways including the basic timeline, though, so not surprising).
And then in the end, TOS never did do anything with Kirk's parents. There's no indication in the show as to whether they're alive or dead, and we're told nothing about them personally, either, so Trivers's original, simpler concept never did get contradicted by anything in TOS.
Q2— Kirk and Tom Leighton are friendly enough that it's not odd for Leighton to invite him to go see a play, and Leighton's wife Martha is obviously familiar with Kirk and on good terms with him. However, Kirk doesn't remember much of anything about the other seven survivors. Leighton and Kirk have pretty accurate ideas of how many other eyewitnesses there were, so it doesn't seem like they never knew about the others; Kirk just doesn't have any personal relationship with the other ones or remember their names. There seems to be some special tie between him and Leighton specifically.
A: In Trivers's concept, Tom Leighton was George Kirk's research assistant on Tarsus IV. By the time of the genocide, he'd already been a familiar part of James Kirk's life for years.
Q3— Kodos's genocide speech, perfectly remembered by Kirk, begins with the statement, "The revolution is successful." But the official historical record, reported by Spock, doesn't mention anything like a revolution, except Kodos declaring emergency martial law as governor, the same summation the computers recited to Kirk earlier. The executions are described by the official record in highly mechanistic terms, as something Kodos ordered, quick and painless but carried out on a mass scale, without any hint of combat or warfare. Kodos's reference to a revolution could be a self-glorifying political metaphor or something, but there are other hints that something bloodier and much more violent happened prior to that speech.
Riley frantically insists that he personally saw Kodos murder his father and his mother. The argument between both survivors as Kirk talks Riley down is distantly overheard by Kodos, and the familiarity of one of their voices triggers his own memories of what he did as "a soldier in a cause" on Tarsus IV. Tom Leighton says he remembers "that bloody thing he [Kodos] did" as the camera focuses on the mask concealing the maimed half of his face. That doesn't seem at all likely to be the result of only the sterile, quick, painless deaths of the official record—for one, Leighton wasn't killed, and for another, the implied mutilation he experienced certainly wouldn't have been painless.
A: Kodos wasn't the purely cold, civilian authority ordering distant executions. His faction's rise to power was violent and dangerous in the first place, and his opponents were brutally punished quite apart from the famine.
For the people of Tarsus IV, the escalation to genocide in the wake of starvation didn't come out of nowhere. The mass executions were quick and painless, but they were the culmination of Kodos's policies, not the beginning nor the only thing he did. Y'all, he's a space Nazi, it's not subtle.
And in all probability, the main reason that so few survivors had ever seen or heard Kodos is that most people who personally interacted with him had already been killed or were among those executed. Leighton may have escaped with his face mutilated, but most others—like George Kirk—never escaped at all.
There were some other details that I thought the basic concept explained much more easily than the various "well, actually, in the lore" gymnastics, too, but this is already long enough. The point is more ... I think "The Conscience of the King" tells us what we need to know for the power of the episode to work—the exploration of the legacy of genocide, all the more when it was aired; the fantastic characterization and exploration of how people engage with these kinds of atrocities; the dehumanization deployed subtly in Kodos's manner of speech and more bluntly in Lenore's—but even when we account for everything in TOS, we're also given plenty of room to explore and imagine and interpret for ourselves.
I do find quite a bit of Trivers's concept more effective and parsimonious on a narrative level than the after-the-fact "official" explanations, but I don't think anyone needs to be glued to that. I just find it interesting that basically none of this is contradicted anywhere in the nearly 80 episodes of TOS, and this version does explain some of the mildly puzzling references in the episode even as aired—it was really only abandoned because of the franchise of it all. Taking TOS by itself, though (as I enjoy doing!), there's a lot more freedom for exploration and interpretation than we always realize.
#this is very complete thanks op (via @mcspirk-is-gold)
No problem! I do have a more exhaustive list-format breakdown of what we do and don't know from the show specifically as aired here, if that's of interest, though I'm very fond of the expanded conception of the backstory here that I think pretty clearly lingers in the final episode!
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I’m just thinking about how many times I’ve heard my dad on a long call with an obvious scammer and I’ll start begging him to get off the phone because I always think he’s a very easy mark and he’ll just keep going and then after a while he’ll say something like “I died 20 years ago” and hang up.
Virgin Millennial Daughter with 20 hrs of screentime a day: Dad! They’re scamming you! Dad! Stop! They will take your savings and your identity! Hang up before they SWAT you!
Chad Boomer dad with a flip phone he has not recharged since 2014: Well gee I wish I could give you my bank account number after you spent all this time on the phone explaining this car deal with me but I don’t have access to my finances because I am in Rikers for felony murder.
They turn into those eraser shavings and then you swipe them off your desk and they land on the floor and someone steps on them and they stick on their shoe and eventually the person goes home so right now your word is at someones house
I know they're named after him but for reasons I can't fully articulate it's hilarious that the guy who invented zeppelins was named Ferdinand von Zeppelin
one odd side effect of being stealth and hanging out with cis guys is realising just how mean they are to eachother, and they all just accept it even if it bothers them. you reply with a ''that was really mean you cunt'' after one of them insults another and they're wide eyed bc they never thought about it that way. and they all think they need a girlfriend so that they can open up about their problems. banging my head against the wall
(i am saying this in the most ''the patriarchy hurts everyone'' way possible)
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