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“Eros. Giver of pain.”

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A Girl's First Guide to Coquettery must be some kind of cursed tomb because there's no way elphaba developed a psychosexual religious fixation on a woman whose favorite book is A Girl's First Guide to Coquettery all by herself
she's about to pounce
Does G(a)linda (Wicked) deserve hate?
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I don't know this character
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elphaba praying to saint glinda and then spending seven years at the cloister of saint glinda is so. like i know we talk about it all the time but we really don't talk enough about how insane of a choice that was on gregory's part
cuz you have 18 y/o elphaba who decides she can't bear to go back to shiz and she has to abandon everything she knows to fight the wizard. and despite being all like "i'm going down" she still kisses glinda goodbye and begs her to hold out. and somewhere along the way, or maybe at that moment, elphaba gets it in her head that she can't be a person and she actively has to deny her personhood for this whole freedom fighting terrorist thing to work out. but since the chapel of st glinda seems to be where the rebels meet to exchange information, every time she goes there she's reminded of the girl she left behind
obviously elphaba's an atheist, but while she waits for informants or whatnot she has to be inconspicuous, so she spends a lot of time on her knees at the oratory. and elphaba doesn't pray to any gods, but she probably thinks about glinda and her final request for glinda to hold out for her. she probably wonders how glinda's doing, if she'll ever be able to forgive elphaba for leaving, if she'll honor elphaba's last request and wait for her to return. and even though elphaba's convinced herself that she can't be a person, she prays and prays that glinda will hold out for her and she'll be able to see her on the other side of it all
rereading wicked and it is striking how little glinda actually shows up in the narrative, but how present she is. like, in elphaba's time in the emerald city, she has a vague cameo where she doesn't even meet elphaba…but that chapter begins and ends with elphaba visiting the chapel of st glinda. which could mean nothing
me to myself writing fanfiction
For all that you can make fun of Elphaba for being kinda spineless when it comes to Glinda, maybe there's something beautiful in the fact that she really does love her unconditionally. Despite all her faults and all her mistakes, she still sees her for who she can be, she still believes in her and she still loves her. And considering how Glinda's spent her whole life surrounded by people who only love her for the facade she puts on for them, who think they adore her when they barely know her, that's got to mean the world.
this post made realize that on one end of the spectrum, glinda has people who only know her and love her for the facade. their love is superficial and basically meaningless cuz they don't know her and are incapable of viewing her as more than this bright shiny thing. on the other end, you have morrible, who (like elphaba) cuts through glinda's bs immediately and sees the girl underneath. but aside from the facade glinda can put on, she just sees glinda as fundamentally untalented and undeserving and selfish. so it means the world to someone like glinda that elphaba can both see under the facade she puts on and believe in glinda
I've changed my opinion on Nessarose quite a lot. I think she's a complex, flawed, and really interesting character to dissect.
Nessa was shaped by her environment. She was shielded from realities, much like Glinda was.
I feel that Glinda and Nessa really are mirrors of each other. The difference is that Glinda had the chance to become the person she could be, and Nessa never got that opportunity.

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am boiling eggs. hope to have more success than book glinda. more updates to come
really don’t know what her problem was
am boiling eggs. hope to have more success than book glinda. more updates to come
Alright I'm gonna rant for a sec
I’m getting really tired of people making Elphaba and Glinda’s friendship an OTP or like an intimate relationship. You can like ‘Gelphie’ all you want but you’re missing the whole point of the story!
One of the main reasons I fell in love with Wicked is that friendship, that sisterhood. The main storyline of Wicked isn’t a love story, it’s a story about two friends who overcame their differences to be best friends. In the end they would do anything for each other, and they learned from each other. That’s the whole POINT of ‘For Good,’ not them “falling in love,” but saying they were there for each other and they really did learn from each other.
And the whole Fiyero and Elphaba thing was another awesome part of Wicked because it defied social norms. Every movie you watch the pretty girl wins the guy, but in Wicked the nerdy, “ugly” green girl got the guy through her personality. Through being passionate about saving the Animals, not because she was blonde (heh, and I’m blonde.)
Now I doubt I’ll change your opinions about this, and that’s not the point of this post, but I just wanted to point that out. The love story isn’t the main theme of Wicked, friendship is.
you’re missing the point. you can’t separate the love from the friendship. #gelphie4ever #goreadthebookagain #goreadwheregregorymaguiresaidgelphieisreal
also yeah nerdy girl gets the guy i dont think i’ve ever seen that before. but nerdy girl gets popular girl? pssh we don’t need another one of those stories.
also ditto that love and friendship are not mutually exclusive.
also there’s nothing wrong with fiyeraba, it’s the invented conflict of glinda and elphaba fighting over fiyero that sucks. there’s no reason glinda and fiyero had to be a thing. they were never a thing in the book. you could still develop the gelphie conflict then friendship without that. but no. they had to add in a cliche love triangle because apparently fighting over a guy is the only thing that can cause conflict between girls.
“Glinda sings phrases from Elphaba’s “The Wizard and I” to her, which underlines how well Glinda knows Elphaba’s dreams: she sings her music.”
— Stacy Wolf, “Defying Gravity: Queer Conventions in the Musical Wicked”
there is an army occupying her house and dragons in her barns and they are mounting an invasion of the free state of munchkinland and her staff are being killed off

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this always fuck me up so baaaad because what do you mean this whole ass analogy just to say that glinda's heart was BURNING for elphie likeee that has to be one of the gayest shit ever
it's a really fascinating commentary on marriage and gender how in the glinda out of oz chapters, glinda describes at multiple points cherrystone acting 'like a husband' towards her. at one point she says he's talking to her like a husband returning from a hunting trip, and at another point he's described as taking her arm gently like a husband. and it's like here's this guy who storms into glinda's house one day and is like i'm requisitioning you're property and suddenly she doesn't have control over her own space any more, has her movement severely limited, and has to constantly flatter/appease cherrystone. glinda literally has to cook for him. as the chapter goes on, glinda is increasingly confined to tighter living conditions, and cherrystone routinely violates these boundaries again and again
a lot of their interactions remind me of fiyero's line in the first book "everything in marriage is a campaign." they're both getting all dressed up for their little dinner dates where they're both trying to figure out what the other is up to and how they can best get what they want. there's obviously a sexual component, too, but it very much reads as cherrystone wanting to have sex with glinda and glinda just having to deal with it and manage his attraction. there's a point in the chapter where cherrystone literally says something along the lines of "you were married i'm sure you know how to sidestep a man in your private space trying to sleep with you." which kind of describes a good portion of their dynamic, where glinda's trying to decline his advances while also flirting with him enough that he doesn't turn and restrict her freedoms even more and start, ya know, killing her staff
there's also the fact cherrystone straight up says "i accepted the assignment hoping that our paths might cross, and in an agreeable way," to which glinda reminds him he's married. and even though cherrystone doesn't actually make a move on her or force himself on her, he's still a man invading her home with an entire army behind him, he's the one who determines how much freedom she gets, and glinda's extremely limited in her ability to refuse him. and all of this coming in a chapter where glinda pretty early on makes an offhand quip about how marriage for women is akin to slavery is kind of insane