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The thing that frustrates me most about poppytwt is how fruitless it all feels.

Like, you can't archive or research poppytwt effectively. You can certainly TRY but you'll find very little!!!

You have people who spent years in the poppytwt fandom who can TELL you about fanfics they read, art they saw, friends they made who were deactivated or doxxed or harassed or who committed suicide or are otherwise lost to time, but they'll have almost nothing to show for it because poppytwt was actively designed to be as impossible to trace back as possible, precisely because people were afraid of harassment.

How are you supposed to find, say, Tommy/Tubbo fanfiction? There's some on the actual tag, sure, especially now that poppytwt is for the most part over and it's considered "okay" to ship them now, but I'll tell you right now there are thousands of fics that won't pop up because the fic had no tags whatsoever, or spelled Tubbo like Tvbb0, or used some God awful emoji combination to convey who they were talking about, or were straight up DELETED. Discord servers moved every few years, fanart and fics were usually tagged with censored bullshit or not tagged at all and then taken down and deleted, entire accounts were ALSO deleted, even assuming something was tagged properly it's probably gone.

Most of us in the fandom at the time didn't think to make archives of anything while it was happening, so we've lost like.... probably enough content to make our own small website full of it, and even more chatrooms.

Almost all of the public facing content left is NSFW and/or more controversial kinks like CNC, watersports, etc, which could be because people who post that content are more resistant to criticism anyway but honestly I don't know why that is, and I know sfw content beyond what you can currently find EXISTED, we consumed tons of it back in the day, but it's almost fucking impossible to find!!! And most of it, when you get your hands on a link, is GONE!!!!

It happens with NSFW content too though, if course. Veradie was one of the most popular artists in poppytwt by far and a lot of the art links don't work. Some have archived versions with working links but a lot is gone because the original post leading to it doesn't work, and Veradie, like, the person, is missing. I'm sure she(?) would know a lot about old fandom and might even have archived some stuff, but if you're some sort of internet historian how in the FUCK are you supposed to find her??? She deactivated without a trace!!!

I made friends with a user called Kencydoo on here and one day I logged on and Kency was just GONE without warning or any indication of where they were moving to, no DMs to people they knew, nothing. I don't even know if it was staff or mass reports or a self-deletion. I do know Kency sometimes posted NSFW dead dove stuff and had tags you could block to avoid it, so it's possible one of those posts blew up and got the blog taken down, but I have no level of certainty.

Reese (I think it was Reese?) had people hunting for a "main account" that didn't exist for harassment and doxxing purposes and then ALMOST left (I'm glad you're still here @reesesrambles )

There's no stability for poppytwt content and no real shelf life which means that most of the history and even the harassment that REQUIRED THE EXISTENCE of a seperate fandom is gone. We can describe what the old dsmp fandom was like and why poppytwt exists and what it means but most of the actual concrete fandom blogs or resources are GONE, absolutely obliterated.

Like you can't make a Strange Æons style video about poppytwt, you literally can't, because almost all of it is like the fucking city of Atlantis. There WAS stuff here, but it was constantly sinking.

Most people I know for a fact were involved in poppy honestly just left for the hermitcraft fandom because people over there are like...normal?? The hermitcraft fandom allows RPF and doesn't give a shit about shipping characters who are "sibling coded" or whatever the fuck. They understand the concept of just not clicking on something you don't want to see, instead of launching a twitter cancellation campaign against people. So like if you can talk about a similar, and GOOD source of content that is also actively ongoing and not get shit for it, why would you chose to create for a discontinued peice of content and/or streamers who you WILL get shit on for writing about?? Like if your options are "write grian RPF and be able to not stress and have a fun time" or "write tommyinnit RPF and delete hate comments every day and watch your back constantly" why the fuck would you pick the latter???

And it's frustrating because the fact everything disappears means it feels like you don't even have much to look back on. The friends you made or content you enjoyed about a series you love is all dust now, and if you were into the DSMP for a long time (and therefore in poppytwt for a long time) then it's so much worse. It all adds up.

I'm speaking in present tense from here on out but it's worth noting that I've been following the same rules and regulations since the pandemic because they're what have kept me safe. I honestly don't know if the fandom still acts like this of if the absence of shipping is all habit from people trained to hide it.

If you're proship or pro RPF or both in any other fandom that's it's own statement, but for the DSMP you can't even call yourself a DSMP fandom because that's main tagging and you'll get suicide baited, you're not DSMP fandom you're "poppytwt fandom".

And....I can't think of any other fucking piece of media or fandom for people that DID that to each other??? Like maybe I'm wrong and there's another thing where it's two distinct fandoms for the same media but like as far as I'm aware this is the only time this has happened????

The thing that's got me thinking about this is seeing other people complain about DSMP and DSMP-adjacent fics never tagging the characters or fandoms in their ship fics as if they don't realize we literally CAN'T under threat of doxxing or suicide baiting or rape threats or getting gore sent to our inbox or being mass reported or called a pedophile or any number of other shit, and it made me go, holy fuck, they might not actually know- this thing that happened, it's probably not normal.

Did you guys...not realize that was happening? I was there in the height of the DSMP fandom and this was a big thing. Coleydoesthings on YouTube keeps marveling at how the DSMP fandom is all platonic fics and saying they must just not like shipping as if she has no idea it was outlawed. I lived in fear every single day, other fans gathered in seperate discord servers from main DSMP ones and many more nervous members only shared fics through privately shared Google docs- and you had to send proof you were proship and/or pro RPF to get into servers because people thought they were going to honest to god get killed or have their adress leaked in cold blood because someone showed that their discord and associated social media was Proship, and no one outside of the dsmp fandom batted an eye??? I'm shocked as time goes on how obvious it gets no one outside of poppytwt or DSMP knows about how bad things got. And the DSMP fandom is calmer now that the smp is over but like, whenever I see people in say, hermitcraft fandom or Dan and Phil phantom scoff at poppytwt saying "why are they censoring character names in fic descriptions" it takes me aback because OF FUCKING COURSE THEY'RE CENDORED because even if you didn't tag them, if you could SEARCH the fic and it came up you'd get hate, cancelled, you'd be told to kill yourself- people also would try to find your main fandom accounts and cancel those if they could make any connection that you were the same person!!!! Antis DEMMANDED in our comments that we censor or else die!!! Did no one hear about all the people killing themselves on tiktok, all the TEENAGERS killing themselves on tiktok, with comments filled of people telling them they deserved it because they made art of ranboo and Tubbo kissing??? Are we just going to pretend that didn't happen now that the smp is over and most of the fandom isn't cyberbullying anymore?? We just going to sleep all the doxxing and cancelling and actual fucking murder and suicide under the rug now??????? The fake urban fiction definitions that just said "pedophiles" or "people who should kill themselves" or "horrible assholes" instead of actual definitions for ships and for the fandom itself???

I thought this must have been a known issue. I guess it's not.

Some sfw content is still under poppytwt tags and accounts but from what I remember usually the only people impervious enough to hate to post openly were smut creators. Not all of them were pro RPF and some worked solely within the realms of the specific smp.

Poppytwt also included the osmp and anything at all to do with benchtrio (character or cc, it didn't matter) at all.

Most users who didn't kill themselves stopped being active after awhile, or deactivated due to being doxxed, or quit either when the smp ended or when Wilbur was outed as an abuser. But it's not empty and friends I have who are still in poppy circles retain their old habits, and old fics stay untagged and with censored descriptions.

I just want to know if people knew about this and also like, if there's any other fandom at all with a similar layout or embargo on content that actually kicks people out of fandom. It's strange to realize that something so pivotal to my fandom experience might be completely unheard of but now I have to know.