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In A tale of two dragons do you think it was kinda unfair of hiccup to equally blame Astrid for the problem when he knows firsthand how aggravating snotlout can and even admitted to fish legs one time that he knows snotlout has a habit of getting under your skin.
My memory is vague and I haven’t watched DreamWorks Dragons in an aeon, so I’m not going to respond to this particular episode… but I have thoughts! Hopefully fun ones!
I’m gonna flip the script.
DreamWorks Dragons presents its dragon riding characters through a fascinating bias system. There are the “good” dragon riders (Hiccup, Astrid, Fishlegs) the narrative frames as correct and rewards for their choices , and the “bad” dragon riders (Snotlout, Ruffnut, Tuffnut) that the narrative portrays as being unreasonable, irresponsible, silly, a hindrance, or an amusing obstacle to get through to. Because Hiccup is the protagonist and Hiccup aligns more closely with Astrid and Snotlout, the narrative usually tells us they’re the “correct” ones.
There are episodes that counter that. Of course there are. Starting with the earlier serieses even before RTTE. But frankly, the “good” dragon riders could have less narrative rewarding and it’d be a better match to what their actions actually are. And I think it'd help fans better identify things, because I think fans can roll with the narrative as presented about which characters are "more right" or "less right."
When Hiccup comes up with a risky idea and Astrid calls him out for it, Astrid is presented as being reasonable. When Hiccup comes up with a risky idea and Snotlout calls him out for it, Snotlout is being contrarian and foolish. When Snotlout comes up with a risky idea and Hiccup calls him out for it, Snotlout is being treated as contrarian and foolish. Interesting, isn’t it? But there are times when Snotlout would straight-up be right in real world contexts, and Hiccup’s risky plan working turns into post hoc propter hoc proof that we should listen to Hiccup because he’s “right.” Hiccup is a very risky person. Let’s be real. In a real world, escalating conversations contradicting Hiccup would make sense because Hiccup is a very risky person. (That's the crux of the first movie ngl, but it gets the nuance.)
When Hiccup and Astrid are downcutting and rude to Snotlout and the twins, it’s because Hiccup and Astrid are right. When Snotlout and the twins are downcutting and rude to Hiccup, Astrid, and Fishlegs, it’s because Hiccup, Astrid, and Fishlegs are right. Interesting, isn’t it? But Hiccup and Astrid are sometimes too curt to their friends or blocking things that are fine. They can be rude, dismissive, contrarian, downputting, etc. themselves. Sure, Snotlout can be a handful and he has emotional struggles he's working through that are real and objectively observable. But Astrid has a history of personal aggression, is straight-up derogatory to people like Snotlout, often without provocation, and she has real emotional struggles and weaknesses she's working through, too.
There are times that Ruffnut, Tuffnut, and Snotlout are being treated unfairly and the story..... rolls along with it.
So whether or not the DreamWorks Dragons narrative does it well when it touches the topic, I find it refreshing when it frames someone like Astrid as, “You know what? Maybe you need to think about your actions or how you’re treating your fellow dragon riders, too.”
This response is a little overstating itself. Obviously there are times Ruff, Tuff, and Snotlout are straight-up being stupid. But the reason I'm flipping the script this hard is because I think there's something too it, too. XD
Not to jump in, but this! This! This! This!
Astrid used to be my favorite character when I was younger, and I don't hate her at all right now, however I can't deny that there is definitely some bias towards Astrid and Hiccup and how they are constantly put on a pedestal compared to the other riders, even Fishlegs. Hiccup at least hears the twins and Snotlout out from time to time, but Astrid constantly treats them awfully and is often times framed as being in the right for it.
Idk why but it makes me think of Guardians of Vanaheim which I recently rewatched, and there was a VERYY interesting scene that happened, and by interesting I mean blink and you'll miss it frustrating. After Astrid and Hiccup take care of the flyers that had been following them into the storm, Snotlout catches up to them on Hookfang. Keep in mind that Hookfang and Snotlout had just gotten hit by lightning, and this hit seemed to hit harder then it usually does the previous times. Probably because the other times Snotlout was hit by lightning it was probably feelers and not the actual lightning itself, but this might have been a stronger feeler. But that's just a theory.
Hiccup expresses delight at seeing Hookfang, happy to see him better. Snotlout responds with:
"Yeah! We wanted to be here but we figured you guys had it all under control and Hooky here needed some extra recovery time, didn'tcha big guy?"
To which Hookfang responds with, quite an adorable, happy little roar.
And how does Astrid respond?
"Riiiiiiiight. Ooookaaaaay. Moving on."
In the most dismissive weirded out of tone of voice. As if. Snotlout had done something outrageously weird. As if Snotlout's concern for his dragon wasn't well founded. As if she herself hadn't dove in to catch Hookfang after he had fallen. As if she didn't know that Snotlout really REALLY cares about his dragon.
"Well maybe she did find it weird cause Snotlout isn't usually open like this-"
Yeah right. As if we're going to pretend like Astrid wasn't the one comforting Snotlout when Hookfang was on the verge of dying and trying to convince him that it was okay that he cared. She didn't act like it was weird back then. It was Ruffnut that was gobsmacked: "Are you crying?" Or maybe it was Tuffnut, I can't actually remember rip.
As if we're going to pretend like Astrid wasn't extra gentle with Stormfly after the whole mess with the Slitherwings when she thought her dragon was going to die.
(Interesting how when Astrid thought she was about to lose her dragon, Snotlout actually empathized with her and expressed worry for her compared to her response here after Hookfang was hurt by the lightning. It wasn't to her face sure but he still expressed it. And everytime Astrid was in mortal peril, like when she got sick with the plague or got blinded, he was audibly worried about her and dare I say GENTLE with her. Meanwhile, whenever Snotlout's not feeling well, Astrid is ALWAYS hard on him, rarely actually sympathizing with him. Almost makes one think that the creators had an inherent bias as to who deserved sympathy and comfort in trying times. But back to Guardians of Vanaheim )
All the riders have deep relationships with their dragons. Snotlout tries to hide his love and care for his dragon and vice versa, but that doesn't mean the other riders are unaware of it. AGAIN I SAY. RACE TO FIREWORM ISLAND HELLO!!??!? One would think that if Snotlout started to show more affection to his dragon in public and start to drop his super macho persona, the riders would welcome it and encourage it. But Astrid's response makes me wonder why Snotlout would even WANT to be more openly affectionate to his dragon in public, cause it seems like it would just make him clam up once again. Thanks a lot Astrid. It's almost like the writers were about to let Snotlout have a sincere and cute moment but then remembered that he was supposed to be the joke character of the trio and isn't supposed to be taken seriously, so they had Astrid treat the situation as if it were a strange and awkward moment instead of something all three riders could be happy about.
Your tags on the 'whose smarter' poll made me flashback to that episode of DoB. Final ep, I think, Cast Out prt 2? And anyway it literally ends with Snotlout (disobeying Hiccup) and acting recklessly with his plan. Hiccup tells him "You proved sometimes recklessness can be courageous" and I just remember being like "THIS from the kid who took on the Red Death on one dragon with a flammable tail fin. Like the similarity/hypocrisy got me--when Hiccup went after the Red Death he was a hero.
I love this. It's really about framing. The HTTYD series provides us certain narrative perceptions, lenses, by which they have us view the characters. Going outside the lenses to look at characters's actions more objectively, and there's that... bias... haha, yeah!
Hiccup constantly doing reckless things is treated as more permissible by the show's framework. His reckless and/or impulsive decisions are treated as gutsy, genius solutions rather than haybrained schemes. And Hiccup tends to be rewarded for those wild plans narratively by having those succeed.
Even though Hiccup gets semi-called out on unnecessary recklessness in RTTE - like testing a flight suit - it's portrayed narratively to viewers as humorous rather than flaws to learn from (as per Snotlout). And when Hiccup makes mistakes, the narrative treats feedback from "equals" like Astrid or people in greater authority like Stoick as what we viewers should care most about. It's not that Ruffnut, Tuffnut, or Snotlout lack feedback about Hiccup's decisions, but it's not treated as criticially. We're not "meant" to reflect on it, most of the time.
"You just proved sometimes recklessness can be courageous" is so much a part of Hiccup's choices that the phrase could be etched on his tombstone. But it's Snotlout taking a moment of gumption that's called out as so risky it's potentially "dumb." And frankly, across the entirety of DreamWorks Dragons, Snotlout brings up many points of prudent caution.
There's a hierarchy the narrative gives us - Hiccup the leader, Astrid and Fishlegs as "more competent" members of the group, and the twins and Snotlout as "less competent" members of the group (our comedic relief). The narrative wants us to sometimes treat this as a gang of equals, especially by RTTE, but the way conversations and situations get presented, solved, and saved means that this internalized hierarchy never leaves. That means that who the audience members take most seriously gets impacted.
I mean, as you said yourself, it's Snotlout disobeying Hiccup - a word that carries authority, as Hiccup is the leader of the Dragon Club during the early DreamWorks Dragons series. In HTTYD and HTTYD 2, Hiccup disobeying Stoick, while ultimately resulting in good ends, also carries consequences. Hiccup disobeying Stoick resulted in the village nearly getting killed. Hiccup disobeying Stoick brought Drago's attention onto them. But by the TV series, I think Hiccup's disobedience is usually seen as a good (by my shoddy memory), but Snotlout's disobedience is seen as him not being "as good as" Hiccup - but is that actually, objectively the case, outside the show's framing?
I don't have the Freaktastic Knowledge I did in ye olde days of analysis where I could list off three hundred specific examples to prove my points, but this is my memory impressions of the series. Snotlout balks at Hiccup's plans lots of the time - and he doesn't not have a point. In another series, Snotlout would be correctly identifying three hundred things that could go wrong, might have gone wrong, or will actually, in fact, go wrong. But Snotlout as a comedic relief character, and then a defiant character opposing Hiccup the Hero who comes up with the correct plan because he's got protagonist armor... means sometimes Snotlout's legitimate points get lost to viewers.
There's a reason why, even now, ROB's Defiant One's conversation between Hiccup and Snotlout still resonates clearly in my memories.
Snotlout: Oh, you are so smug! Hiccup: Me? Snotlout: Hiccup's so smart! Hiccup's so brave! He killed the Red Death! He trained the dragons! He's got the metal leg! Hiccup: Metal leg? That's what's bothering you? That's where you're going? Metal leg? Snotlout: No! It's everything the leg is attached to!
Snotlout made mistakes in Defiant One. Let's not forget that context. But while Snotlout yelling at Hiccup can be read as Snotlout not being "as good as" our hero Hiccup who saves the day... it strikes me because it shows the imbalance of treatment between Snotlout and Hiccup. "Everything the leg is attached to" is the prioritization of Hiccup and - by this point - Hiccup expecting to be prioritized.
Actually listening to Snotlout is a fantastic way to experience the TV series. He's bitter. He's grumpy. He's defiant. He's downer. But that's because he sees holes. He has a **PRACTICAL** side that butts heads with Hiccup. I'm someone whose thinking processes are similar to Snotlout - it's easier to shoot down a solution for its mistakes than come up with a new one - but it's an important role to have. In an actually existing friendship group, you need someone who's down to earth enough to make sure your out-of-the-box thinking friend (Hiccup) doesn't come up with something so wild it's not really going to work. We need an intelligence that sees holes. Otherwise, we start floating off into things that won't work as we expect them to, or adopting ideas that haven't been tested with robustness.
Snotlout's a legitimately smart guy. The fact that Astrid and the others shoot him down is partially because of his character, partially because sometimes he can be a dummy (as can we all), but partially because of their own flaws. Listen more to Snotlout, y'all. Some of Hiccup's plans work because Luck.
Similarly, we can talk about the framing of Fishlegs spewing facts (treated as providing information) versus the Thorstons spewing facts (treated as a novelty quirk rather than intelligence). Just because the Thorstons do it in a dorkier, more trollish matter does not negate the fact that they are BRIMMING, purely BRIMMING, with an ENORMOUS amount of factual knowledge! Does Fishlegs actually have more factual knowledge than them? No, it's just a different area. He's got concentrated knowledge on dragons. They've got in depth, niche knowledge of a large variety of topics. Fishlegs, Ruff, and Tuff are all dang smart.
From a meta standpoint, the twins's intelligence is treated inconsistently. But I prefer me my smart Thorstons who just have spacey heads, trollish senses of humor, and thrillseeking behavior.
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some cousins & rider hugs for these trying times
the girls are fighting yeahhh!!
Hiccup: *trying to convince Astrid that he and Toothless aren't sneaking off to spy on Viggo without backup*
Toothless: I've never met this man before in my life
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snotlout was amazing in this episode. he took charge and led the riders while hiccup and astrid are gone. i love any episodes that involve snotlout's character development
i also took a lot of screenshots of hiccup. he was very distressed towards the end of the episode and his facial expressions are sooo good when he's upset (sorry hiccup)
hiccup seeing krogan up close for the first time in...weeks?...months? however long it's been. that was great
snotlout being adorable as usual
viggo aboslutely SEETHING when krogan talks down to him or gets too close
and of course krogan being an arrogant ass (i love it). it was hard to get good screenshots of him while flying but i might get some in later episodes
Bro bro goo goo come backkkk🗿🗿🗿
Love them so so muchhh✨✨✨

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yall ever think about how tragic ninjago is
like the story is literally a group of kids who are just constantly traumatized
and this is WITHOUT THE "and s/he had to watch a loved one ___" excluding deaths (become possessed, become a ghost, etc)
We got Jay, who:
Watched his gf and the love of his life turned evil by an unknown matter and then had to fight her before being corrupted himself
Had to watch zane die
Was forced to partake in a tournament where his best friend willingly lost so that he could remain (and ended up losing his powers anyway, which has to feel like having a part of your soul ripped out
Found out he was adopted
Was kidnapped by a psychotic, powerful being from another realm who straight up TORTURED HIM (THIS KID IS LIKE SIXTEEN. S I X T E E N!!!)
Watched his friends/FAMILY be picked off one by one, blaming himself the whole time
Held the love of his life as she died in his arms
Was sent to another realm where he was essentially treated as a slave ans used as bait
Thought cole died
Thought zane died, only to find out he had actually been banished to the most dangerous realm of all
Was trapped inside a videogame
HAD TO WATCH HIS FRIENDS BE PICKED OFF ONE BY ONE AGAIN
HAD TO WATCH NYA BASICALLY DIE. AGAIN
is used as a human sacrifice
ALMOST DIED. LEGIT WAS FULLY PREPARED TO DIE TO SAVE HIS TEAMMATES/YANG
ALMOST DROWNED AND CAME WITHIN TWO INCHES OF HIS LIFE
lost nya without even getting the chance to say goodbye, forced to see her reduced to a shadow of her former self with barely the memory or the care he fell in love with
AND THATS JUST JAY!!!!!
Kai:
Was abandoned by his parents at the ripe old age of five and was forced to grow up too fast, literally having to learn to raise his sister as a child
Almost exploded in a volcano
Watched Zane die
Fell in love and was stabbed in the back basically immediately (even if she came around eventually)
Watched his little brother who he swore to protected be taken and possessed
Almost killed his own father
See above for "lost in another realm on two separate occasions, thought cole died, thought zane died"
Had his powers stolen AGAIN
Was killed in a videogame
See above for "my sister turned into the sea"
Cole:
Mother died when he was a child and had such a strained relationship with his father he literally ran away
Watched Zane die
TURNED INTO A GHOST
see above for "lost in realm twice"
Fell so far he almost died and was almost turned into a stone husk
See above for "thought cole died, thought Zane died"
See above for "died in a videogame"
Fell almost to his death. Again
See above for "nya turned into the sea" thing
Zane:
BESTIE LITERALLY FOUND OUT HE WAS A ROBOT
died
see above for "lost in a realm"
Thought cole died
basically died. again
was corrupted, lost his memory, and was manipulated for FORTY YEARS
almost died AGAIN to bring an evil being into the realm
see above for "nya sea" thing
Nya:
See above for "abandoned parents" and all that
Turned evil by the OL
Almost dies on a rollercoaster
Watches Zane die
A) had to witness all of Jay's trauma with nadakhan and b) LITERALLY DIED. D-E-A-D DEAD.
Thought her brother and bf and besties DIED (shortly after watching lloyd almost die)
thought cole died, thought Zane died, never-realm, etc etc...you know the drill by now
Died in a videogame
Sacrificed herself to save her yin, losing her memories, her humanity, her identity
AND THE ANGSTY TRAUMA BOY HIMSELF, LLOYD:
Was abandoned by his mother and hardly ever saw his father
Was bullied and tormented
Lived on the streets
Captured by the serpentine like four times
almost died several times to retrieve the fangblades
Almost blew up in a volcano
learned he was destined to defeat (-kill) the person he loves most
is almost kidnapped again
Loses his childhood once for all the responsibilities put on him as a kid then twice bc of magical tea
watches his father corrupted by the OL
is captured again by the digital OL and has his powers drained
WATCHES ZANE FRICKIN DIE
see above for "forced to partake in tournament and loses powers anyway"
Has to sacrifice his dad to the Cursed realm to save the world
IS. POSSESSED. AND ALMOST DIES BECAUSE OF IT
Has to sacrifice his dad to save the world (again)
Falls in love and is BRUTALLY, VISIOUSLY betrayed
Sees his father revived in a soulless evil husk
Said soulless evil husk almost kills him
Thinks his four best friends (BROTHERS-) are dead
Watches his city be razed and destroyed
Sees Harumi die
Fights his father AGAIN
See above for the "watched cole die, watched Zane almost die, never realm hopping, watching Zane corrupted, etc, etc"
(Side note for little lloyd wanting nothing more than to be like his father and now its his biggest fear )
see above for "died in a videogame"
See above for "nya turns into the sea" thing which causes my homie to become EVEN MORE DEPRESSED
In summary,
GIVE THE KIDS A BREAK
zane being bad at giving advance warning for ANYTHING is a core character trait
Someday Twilight post reveal is going to be extremely stressed out at an event because he thinks something bad is going to go down or there's a lot of armed tension.
And he's going to look over at Yor who's completely relaxed and having a good time and just relax a little.
Oh my wife still thinks we're safe. If we were about to get shot she wouldn't be. Must be okay.
Give that anxious cheetah his golden retriever service wife. He needs her.
Loid winding himself up to injury: *looks at Yor*
Yor: *happy and relaxed*
Loid calming down: oh right this is just a lunch date with our friends I don't need to eat myself alive over it.
yearly update to my ninja designs that i totally didnt rush through...
Sometimes, I find myself breaking down Kix’s character, turning over his traits, his patterns and behaviors… and more and more I find the personality construed by fandom for Kix to be so wildly jarring from what we do have of Kix.
Kix has, roughly, 17 minutes of screen time across the entirety of TCW, which, when compared to the likes of Fives and Rex, who clock much more screen time than most other clones, this doesn’t seem like a lot—but when you factor in most clones' screen time, we get a lot of Kix, and there’s a lot you can learn about him if you pay attention to the moments he does have on screen.
And to illustrate my point, and because I genuinely love Kix, I’m taking it upon myself to examine what we do have of Kix—both for my own purposes, creatively, and because I also happen to enjoy being neurotically intense about my favorite characters.
From “The Deserter” (S02:10) which is also Kix’s debut episode:
1. Kix speaks with a softer and gentler affliction in his voice compared to other clones (as seen with Jesse, who debuts alongside Kix and contrasts him in being more assertive.) I generally extrapolate this to be reflective of a softness that underscores Kix’s mannerisms. 2. When confronted by Suu, Kix doesn’t react with aggression of defensiveness (even if he’s also escorting an injured Rex and has a rifle pointed at him,) instead he opts to gently, and slowly, explain the situation, (in fact, Suu cuts him off and it is Jesse who has to explain, Jesse, who speaks quickly and in a more assertive manner than Kix did.) Kix’s tone is also likely influenced by caution. 3. The most notable scene in this episode that Kix appears in is when he’s tending to an injured Rex—I say notable because I think it informs much of how Kix treats his patients, even when they’re being uncooperative. Because in this scene, Kix is nothing but gentle an caring towards Rex, even when Rex tries to order Kix into letting him back into the fight despite the nerve damage he’s taken from the shot to his chest. When he pulls rank on Rex it is done so firmly, but kindly, and his face is one of sheepishness. If this scene shows anything, it’s that Kix is patient.
From Kix’s debut episode, what can be described about his character is that he’s much more reserved and gentle in comparison to the much more assertive personality of Jesse—from his mannerisms to the tone of his voice. He will be firm, but he is not unkind. He also shows patience towards his patient, even when said patient is, initially, being uncooperative.
From Umbara (S04:07 - S04:10) which is when Kix gets the most screen time:
1. The first moment of note Kix appears in is when he raises concerns to Rex about the pace Krell has had them marching at, that this pace is taking its toll on the men and they need to rest. Kix raises these concerns respectfully, secondly, Kix is doing his duty as a medic, which, is fundamental to his character, finally, Kix cares about those around him and he does what he can to ensure the welfare of these men. (And also, I think it’s quite telling that Kix doesn’t press the issue after Krell scolds them for it, as noted before, Kix does not have an assertive personality.) 2. When Kix is taking care of an injured clone he’s dragged into cover Kix retains his professionalism and keeps himself together even under stress. Kix comforts his patient instead, and I think it speaks of that gentleness I keep mentioning that Kix says, “You’re gonna be okay, buddy, this’ll ease the pain.” Kix is comforting, and he holds himself together under stress because he has his brothers to take care of. 3. I think it’s also notable that when Torrent is starting to express their distrust in Krell, though you can tell Kix is beginning to get frustrated with the treatment of the men (expressing that with Krell’s plan, casualties will be high,) his comments are not nearly has harsh as those of Tup or Jesse. Once again, Kix is shown to be more reserved, and I see it as him maintaining his professionalism in raising these concerns, even as he is beginning to grow frustrated with this poor treatment. 4. The note of Kix beginning to grow frustrated with the treatment of his brothers will be expanded upon throughout the Umbara arc; especially in light of Kix taking his frustration and horror out on the wildlife of Umbara for feeding on the corpses of his brothers. If I am to extrapolate, those dead clones serve as a reminder to Kix; a remainder that he, more and more, has been unable to properly care for all his injured brothers. These clones are a reminder to Kix of the brothers he could not save. This is the first crack within Kix, due to the stress of Umbara, and I have to emphasis, this is not Kix’s normal pattern of behavior. 5. Continuing the thread of Kix beginning to crack under the pressures of Umbara, there is a moment in Umbara where Kix is tending to an injured clone—one that’s in his arms, and this clone gets shot to death in Kix’s arms. This is directly Kix being unable to save a clone’s life despite being right there, because Umbara is that overwhelming—to such a degree that he’s forced to leave behind the injured in this moment, even if he can save them. And this is another crack in Kix’s composure, because he snaps at Rex, he drops his professionalism and his respect, and even resorts to barbed comments against Rex for ordering him from tending to the injured because Torrent needs Kix alive. This is not Kix’s normal behavior, this is Kix, stressed and crumbling under the weight of Umbara. 6. The last notable scene Kix appears in, and this is the moment where Kix finally breaks under Umbara’s pressure—it’s the moment where he starts haphazardly firing his blaster at the enemy. This is intended to be shocking—because this is not how Kix nominally acts, he’s in immense distress, and it takes Tup pulling him into cover to get him to calm down. Kix holds his composure for so long, and when he does break, he breaks hard. 7. To cap off the Umbara thoughts, though Kix does have more scenes, he is relegated to a background character for the most part—but, I can only imagine what was going through Kix’s head when he had, under the orders of Krell, fired upon other clones, it is completely counter to who he is, both as a person and as a medic, and I imagine it cuts deep—as it did for all clones involved in that moment, but for Kix… some of that hurt I imagine would be coming from how he’s meant to save his brothers lives, he’s the medic… and yet, in that moment, all he did was take theirs.
Umbara shows that Kix—who has been shown to be a respectful, kind, and helpful clone who just earnestly wants to do his duty in providing his brothers with the care he needs—is broken by an inability to help.
From the Chip arc (S06:01 - S06:04):
1. Not much to be said about some of Kix’s first appearances in this arc, as Kix is doing what he does as a medic (and expressing concern for Tup.) But the scene where Tup is in the infirmary, and Kix is confused about what’s wrong with Tup, I do think that Kix being willing to say that he can’t figure out what’s wrong, and that if they want answers, he’ll need to be sent back to Kamino, is indicative of Kix is aware of the limitations in his knowledge and is willing to humble himself. 2. This is more light-hearted scene (at first, anyway,) and is mostly conjecture on my part but I find it too amusing to leave out. That is the scene in which Kix is checking himself out in the mirror at 79’s. I do not think this is indicative of Kix being conceited about his looks—rather, I think it’s indicative of something else entirely in light of how he also talks in this scene. When he realizes someone else walks in, he talks with a deeper tone that I can only describe as Kix trying to present himself as being cool and mysterious. All the while he’s nonchalantly brushing his shoulders off. It’s so funny to me, especially when he realizes it’s Fives who just walked in, and immediately he tone switches to his typical inflection—and his mannerisms return to the typical ones we’ve seen of him. (Yes, I also think Kix had the haircut he does because he tries to present himself as cooler than he actually is, I imagine he grew embarrassed by this insistence given he grows it out later on—Kix is a dork, I said what I said.) 3. And yes, Kix immediately jumping to concern, before offering his help to Fives—even if his duty would insist that he turn Fives in because of the attempted assassination—I think, this is because Kix fixates on Fives’ distress, and he focuses on how to alleviate that stress, so even as it’s clear he’s confused by what Fives has gotten himself into, Kix still offers his help, and gives it freely in getting Fives in direct contact with Anakin and Rex at his behest. It’s a strong moment for his character, and his face when he asks what he can do to help… it’s so earnest. He’s loyal to his brothers.
And finally, there is the Echo arc of season 7, (S07:01 - S07:04):
1. When their gunship gets shot down, Kix is the first to notice that Cody was injured in the wreck and is trapped; I put this down to Kix being attentive and keeping track of the head count of the party he’s with, something done because he is the team medic and he is responsible for the well being of those around him first and foremost. 2. Then there is the scene at the campfire, which, firstly shows the bond Jesse and Kix have given the ease of banter between them and the comfort between them in their interactions. Secondly, I find it interesting how when Wrecker strangles Jesse, while Rex resorts to more direct action (trying to pull Wrecker by his collar,) Kix kind of just hovers, it’s a pretty… non-violent action when Rex and Jesse both jump to the defensive with the batch (Rex, even more directly, later on, when he actually punches Crosshair.) Similarly, even when Crosshair shoves Kix away, Kix shoves back before getting stuck in a headlock, and even after getting out of the headlock, at most he puts his hands on Crosshair to keep shoving him away. Generally, Kix is a lot less confrontational compared to either Jesse and Rex are in regards to the batch—which, circles around to my point of Kix not being as assertive, neither will he be overly aggressive towards allies. (This may be extrapolated as Kix refusing to take more direction action against another clone, given Umbara. But, that’s just extrapolation; a theory, a musing on motives.) 3. (Also yes I am aware that Kix makes jabs about the batch and I mostly construe this to be that Kix can be judgmental about others he’s skeptical of them, I have my reasons as to why I’m not putting a lot of weight on this but it’s tied to a critique of the arc’s writing, which is not what this is about.)
In summation, Kix is shown, repeatedly, to be someone whose kind and helpful—what matters most to him is the care and well being of his brothers. He’s earnest in that care, and he’s got a softness that underscores a lot of his mannerisms and speech. He does his best to hold himself together for the sake of his brothers. He gets frustrated and breaks down in the face of mounting casualties and an inability to help his brothers. He’s respectful and professional in how he conducts himself as a medic, and even if he pulls rank, he’s firm but kind about it—he expresses patience in how he handles those under his care. Additionally, and in my own conjecture of his character, Kix tries to present himself as cooler than he actually is, suggesting a level of dorky insecurity to him. He’s also shown to lash out and make barbed comments when he’s incredibly stressed, and Kix carries judgment towards others when he’s skeptical of them.
What Kix is not is a hard ass medic whose sick of everyone’s shit, who berates and scolds his patients relentlessly—complaining about how they make his job harder. He is not quick to anger nor does he easily take his frustrations out on those around him—especially those under his care. He does not constantly throw his rank around to get those under his care to do what he wants.
It is a far cry from Kix’s character, and I think it’s a damn shame Kix’s actual character gets ignored in favor in fanon, because honestly, Kix as he is in canon is incredibly interesting—carrying a host of traits that can be explored and examined in their own right.
(Also, in quick references, I’ve narrowed down two videos that compiled Kix’s screen time across TCW, this one which clocks at ~14 minutes, and the second one with clocks in at ~17 minutes.)

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Sometimes, I find myself breaking down Kix’s character, turning over his traits, his patterns and behaviors… and more and more I find the personality construed by fandom for Kix to be so wildly jarring from what we do have of Kix.
Kix has, roughly, 17 minutes of screen time across the entirety of TCW, which, when compared to the likes of Fives and Rex, who clock much more screen time than most other clones, this doesn’t seem like a lot—but when you factor in most clones' screen time, we get a lot of Kix, and there’s a lot you can learn about him if you pay attention to the moments he does have on screen.
And to illustrate my point, and because I genuinely love Kix, I’m taking it upon myself to examine what we do have of Kix—both for my own purposes, creatively, and because I also happen to enjoy being neurotically intense about my favorite characters.
From “The Deserter” (S02:10) which is also Kix’s debut episode:
1. Kix speaks with a softer and gentler affliction in his voice compared to other clones (as seen with Jesse, who debuts alongside Kix and contrasts him in being more assertive.) I generally extrapolate this to be reflective of a softness that underscores Kix’s mannerisms. 2. When confronted by Suu, Kix doesn’t react with aggression of defensiveness (even if he’s also escorting an injured Rex and has a rifle pointed at him,) instead he opts to gently, and slowly, explain the situation, (in fact, Suu cuts him off and it is Jesse who has to explain, Jesse, who speaks quickly and in a more assertive manner than Kix did.) Kix’s tone is also likely influenced by caution. 3. The most notable scene in this episode that Kix appears in is when he’s tending to an injured Rex—I say notable because I think it informs much of how Kix treats his patients, even when they’re being uncooperative. Because in this scene, Kix is nothing but gentle an caring towards Rex, even when Rex tries to order Kix into letting him back into the fight despite the nerve damage he’s taken from the shot to his chest. When he pulls rank on Rex it is done so firmly, but kindly, and his face is one of sheepishness. If this scene shows anything, it’s that Kix is patient.
From Kix’s debut episode, what can be described about his character is that he’s much more reserved and gentle in comparison to the much more assertive personality of Jesse—from his mannerisms to the tone of his voice. He will be firm, but he is not unkind. He also shows patience towards his patient, even when said patient is, initially, being uncooperative.
From Umbara (S04:07 - S04:10) which is when Kix gets the most screen time:
1. The first moment of note Kix appears in is when he raises concerns to Rex about the pace Krell has had them marching at, that this pace is taking its toll on the men and they need to rest. Kix raises these concerns respectfully, secondly, Kix is doing his duty as a medic, which, is fundamental to his character, finally, Kix cares about those around him and he does what he can to ensure the welfare of these men. (And also, I think it’s quite telling that Kix doesn’t press the issue after Krell scolds them for it, as noted before, Kix does not have an assertive personality.) 2. When Kix is taking care of an injured clone he’s dragged into cover Kix retains his professionalism and keeps himself together even under stress. Kix comforts his patient instead, and I think it speaks of that gentleness I keep mentioning that Kix says, “You’re gonna be okay, buddy, this’ll ease the pain.” Kix is comforting, and he holds himself together under stress because he has his brothers to take care of. 3. I think it’s also notable that when Torrent is starting to express their distrust in Krell, though you can tell Kix is beginning to get frustrated with the treatment of the men (expressing that with Krell’s plan, casualties will be high,) his comments are not nearly has harsh as those of Tup or Jesse. Once again, Kix is shown to be more reserved, and I see it as him maintaining his professionalism in raising these concerns, even as he is beginning to grow frustrated with this poor treatment. 4. The note of Kix beginning to grow frustrated with the treatment of his brothers will be expanded upon throughout the Umbara arc; especially in light of Kix taking his frustration and horror out on the wildlife of Umbara for feeding on the corpses of his brothers. If I am to extrapolate, those dead clones serve as a reminder to Kix; a remainder that he, more and more, has been unable to properly care for all his injured brothers. These clones are a reminder to Kix of the brothers he could not save. This is the first crack within Kix, due to the stress of Umbara, and I have to emphasis, this is not Kix’s normal pattern of behavior. 5. Continuing the thread of Kix beginning to crack under the pressures of Umbara, there is a moment in Umbara where Kix is tending to an injured clone—one that’s in his arms, and this clone gets shot to death in Kix’s arms. This is directly Kix being unable to save a clone’s life despite being right there, because Umbara is that overwhelming—to such a degree that he’s forced to leave behind the injured in this moment, even if he can save them. And this is another crack in Kix’s composure, because he snaps at Rex, he drops his professionalism and his respect, and even resorts to barbed comments against Rex for ordering him from tending to the injured because Torrent needs Kix alive. This is not Kix’s normal behavior, this is Kix, stressed and crumbling under the weight of Umbara. 6. The last notable scene Kix appears in, and this is the moment where Kix finally breaks under Umbara’s pressure—it’s the moment where he starts haphazardly firing his blaster at the enemy. This is intended to be shocking—because this is not how Kix nominally acts, he’s in immense distress, and it takes Tup pulling him into cover to get him to calm down. Kix holds his composure for so long, and when he does break, he breaks hard. 7. To cap off the Umbara thoughts, though Kix does have more scenes, he is relegated to a background character for the most part—but, I can only imagine what was going through Kix’s head when he had, under the orders of Krell, fired upon other clones, it is completely counter to who he is, both as a person and as a medic, and I imagine it cuts deep—as it did for all clones involved in that moment, but for Kix… some of that hurt I imagine would be coming from how he’s meant to save his brothers lives, he’s the medic… and yet, in that moment, all he did was take theirs.
Umbara shows that Kix—who has been shown to be a respectful, kind, and helpful clone who just earnestly wants to do his duty in providing his brothers with the care he needs—is broken by an inability to help.
From the Chip arc (S06:01 - S06:04):
1. Not much to be said about some of Kix’s first appearances in this arc, as Kix is doing what he does as a medic (and expressing concern for Tup.) But the scene where Tup is in the infirmary, and Kix is confused about what’s wrong with Tup, I do think that Kix being willing to say that he can’t figure out what’s wrong, and that if they want answers, he’ll need to be sent back to Kamino, is indicative of Kix is aware of the limitations in his knowledge and is willing to humble himself. 2. This is more light-hearted scene (at first, anyway,) and is mostly conjecture on my part but I find it too amusing to leave out. That is the scene in which Kix is checking himself out in the mirror at 79’s. I do not think this is indicative of Kix being conceited about his looks—rather, I think it’s indicative of something else entirely in light of how he also talks in this scene. When he realizes someone else walks in, he talks with a deeper tone that I can only describe as Kix trying to present himself as being cool and mysterious. All the while he’s nonchalantly brushing his shoulders off. It’s so funny to me, especially when he realizes it’s Fives who just walked in, and immediately he tone switches to his typical inflection—and his mannerisms return to the typical ones we’ve seen of him. (Yes, I also think Kix had the haircut he does because he tries to present himself as cooler than he actually is, I imagine he grew embarrassed by this insistence given he grows it out later on—Kix is a dork, I said what I said.) 3. And yes, Kix immediately jumping to concern, before offering his help to Fives—even if his duty would insist that he turn Fives in because of the attempted assassination—I think, this is because Kix fixates on Fives’ distress, and he focuses on how to alleviate that stress, so even as it’s clear he’s confused by what Fives has gotten himself into, Kix still offers his help, and gives it freely in getting Fives in direct contact with Anakin and Rex at his behest. It’s a strong moment for his character, and his face when he asks what he can do to help… it’s so earnest. He’s loyal to his brothers.
And finally, there is the Echo arc of season 7, (S07:01 - S07:04):
1. When their gunship gets shot down, Kix is the first to notice that Cody was injured in the wreck and is trapped; I put this down to Kix being attentive and keeping track of the head count of the party he’s with, something done because he is the team medic and he is responsible for the well being of those around him first and foremost. 2. Then there is the scene at the campfire, which, firstly shows the bond Jesse and Kix have given the ease of banter between them and the comfort between them in their interactions. Secondly, I find it interesting how when Wrecker strangles Jesse, while Rex resorts to more direct action (trying to pull Wrecker by his collar,) Kix kind of just hovers, it’s a pretty… non-violent action when Rex and Jesse both jump to the defensive with the batch (Rex, even more directly, later on, when he actually punches Crosshair.) Similarly, even when Crosshair shoves Kix away, Kix shoves back before getting stuck in a headlock, and even after getting out of the headlock, at most he puts his hands on Crosshair to keep shoving him away. Generally, Kix is a lot less confrontational compared to either Jesse and Rex are in regards to the batch—which, circles around to my point of Kix not being as assertive, neither will he be overly aggressive towards allies. (This may be extrapolated as Kix refusing to take more direction action against another clone, given Umbara. But, that’s just extrapolation; a theory, a musing on motives.) 3. (Also yes I am aware that Kix makes jabs about the batch and I mostly construe this to be that Kix can be judgmental about others he’s skeptical of them, I have my reasons as to why I’m not putting a lot of weight on this but it’s tied to a critique of the arc’s writing, which is not what this is about.)
In summation, Kix is shown, repeatedly, to be someone whose kind and helpful—what matters most to him is the care and well being of his brothers. He’s earnest in that care, and he’s got a softness that underscores a lot of his mannerisms and speech. He does his best to hold himself together for the sake of his brothers. He gets frustrated and breaks down in the face of mounting casualties and an inability to help his brothers. He’s respectful and professional in how he conducts himself as a medic, and even if he pulls rank, he’s firm but kind about it—he expresses patience in how he handles those under his care. Additionally, and in my own conjecture of his character, Kix tries to present himself as cooler than he actually is, suggesting a level of dorky insecurity to him. He’s also shown to lash out and make barbed comments when he’s incredibly stressed, and Kix carries judgment towards others when he’s skeptical of them.
What Kix is not is a hard ass medic whose sick of everyone’s shit, who berates and scolds his patients relentlessly—complaining about how they make his job harder. He is not quick to anger nor does he easily take his frustrations out on those around him—especially those under his care. He does not constantly throw his rank around to get those under his care to do what he wants.
It is a far cry from Kix’s character, and I think it’s a damn shame Kix’s actual character gets ignored in favor in fanon, because honestly, Kix as he is in canon is incredibly interesting—carrying a host of traits that can be explored and examined in their own right.
(Also, in quick references, I’ve narrowed down two videos that compiled Kix’s screen time across TCW, this one which clocks at ~14 minutes, and the second one with clocks in at ~17 minutes.)
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