uchiha sasuke

In some stories, Indra transplanted the Kalpavriksha to his paradise after humans started using it to wish for evil things. Similar to how Madara sealed the Tailed Beasts inside himself after humans used them as weapons, with the objetive of trapping the world in a dream world where all their wishes became true.

Good question!

I think some of the basics would stay the same:

Goal-orientation - Sasuke would always be the kind of person who works on a goal-to-goal basis, setting his sights on something he wants and going for it without thinking too much. This is something that's inherent to who he is as a person - he does this when he's a kid (most notable example being when he teaches himself the Fireball Jutsu), he does it at the start of the series (he wants to feed Naruto so he feeds Naruto), he does it all the way through the middle and end (he wants to free Orochimaru's prisoners so he frees Orochimaru's prisoners, he wants to destroy the Leaf so he tries to destroy the Leaf). The only complicated examples of this in canon are killing Itachi and leaving the Leaf because he didn't want to do those, so he spent more time thinking it over.

Sincerity - Sasuke doesn't bullshit or lie. He's very "innocent" that way and would have stayed like that. If extreme trauma didn't change this about him then the absence of trauma definitely wouldn't. It's just part of who he is.

Skepticism - Sasuke doesn't just believe everything he's told, which is why Itachi has to work so hard to trick him. Even without the trauma, he'd remain a thoughtful person who considers what others tell him carefully and weighs it against his own understanding of reality.

Creativity and individuality - Sasuke works hard to set himself apart from others, taking pleasure in crafting new jutsu, having "signature" aspects to his fighting style, and changing his outfits more than any other character in the series. Especially with Itachi still around, I think this part of Sasuke would stay the same. He's got a brand and he works hard on it.

Trusting in his feelings - Sasuke trusts his emotions a lot and lets them guide him. We see this mainly in Part II - in Part I, he does eventually swallow down a lot of his feelings to keep pursuing his goal of killing Itachi, but he does still trust them and uses them as a guide for making decisions like not to kill Naruto. In Part II, Sasuke literally just does whatever he feels like doing in the moment. It doesn't matter if Itachi would be upset with him for trying to destroy the Village because he centers his own grief and suffering, and doesn't need to tell himself lies about how what he's doing is actually best for people, etc. In the absence of the Massacre, I think we might actually see this become more pronounced, because he has less reasons to do things that contradict how he feels.

Autonomy-valuing - Sasuke hates when others try to manipulate him and pursues his own freedom relentlessly. In the absence of every party in the entire world trying to manipulate him literally all the time, this might be lower-key, but he would still care a lot about making his own decisions and choosing his own path.

As for things that might change...

Clan pride - Sasuke would be much better positioned to form an opinion on the Uchiha based on their actual values and goals. In canon he never really has the space for this; they're dead and he didn't know about anything they were up to while it was happening. I can't see Sasuke automatically accepting whatever roles they might try to push on him as he got older; he would think through it himself and decide what he wants to do.

Friendless - Sasuke does show interest in other kids and pays some attention to class dynamics. He makes friends with Sakura and Naruto despite his best efforts, and after he breaks free from Orochimaru he immediately assembles a team of his own. If the clan were still around, he also wouldn't have the pesky Mangekyo if-I-make-friends-I'll-have-to-kill-them thing hanging over his head. Since the Uchiha are so insular he might not have many friends outside the clan per se, but he would have friends.

Disrespect - Sasuke's straight up disrespectful during the events of Naruto. In all the flashbacks from when he's a kid, though, we do see that he's quite respectful, so in the absence of the Massacre he would probably be somewhat more respectful than what we see in canon.

Curiosity - in canon, Sasuke asks a lot of questions and seems curious to learn about the circumstances of others sometimes, but generally he's too focused on his goal to pursue this curiosity to any significant degree. I think without the heavy weight of the Massacre he might show more curiosity and interest in others.

We are speaking here about military states that, since chapter three, admit to designing teams with specific members in order to exploit at maximum the shinobi's capacities, guaranteeing a good enough success rate during missions. Whether these groups form some sort of friendship outside their training and/or duties isn't even remotely important because, well, why would it be? These are disposable people who are taught the importance of the "greater good", which means making difficult decisions -if a member of a cell isn't ready to die or sacrifice someone's life in order to accomplish a victory it gets ostracized.

The friendship often presented in the manga (politically) differs entirely from the Western conception of the term, as the friendship that Hiruzen speaks about is about preserving the balance between the villages at the risk of people’s lives. 

The idea of friendship inside a military state that has no issue in sacrificing people's lives in order to grow politically and economically can't be about caring for others more than anything as it contradicts and threatens Konoha's nationalistic mindset where the village's prosperity and safety have to come first -the Uchiha's way of thinking (wrongly called the Curse of Hatred), which is why it's surprising how many people that claim to care for others are so fervently haters of a clan that cared more for those dear to them than any other family.

Naruto describing Sasuke to Sarada and Chouchou

He was super popular with the academy girls… just like me. And he was pretty good looking too… just like me. And on top of that his ninjutsu grades were best in the academy, hands down. … just like me. But he had no social skills and the worst mouth ever! Totally unlike me! I mean…. he was my rival! That’s never changed!

Sasuke describing Naruto to Boruto

Boruto: Tell me about my father. Sasuke:  When he was a child, all he did was go around saying he’d be Hokage. He was quite the loser. Boruto: A loser? Sasuke: And very stubborn. Boruto: I don’t care about that, I want to hear about my Dad’s weaknesses, ya know? Sasuke: … Weakness? Listen… Your Dad was full of weaknesses. He was a good-for-nothing. But he puddled himself up with his own strength and became the Hokage. You don’t need to understand who Naruto is now, you need to know the Naruto that made it all the way here.

Naruto’s just “Hurr durr nothing’s changed at all, I can’t talk about Sasuke for zero point five seconds without bringing up myself. I am soooo soooooo awesome and I’ve always been really awesome~~~”

Sasuke goes, “The most important thing about Naruto is that he wasn’t always great, he had to grow and change to be the person he is today.”

They think completely differently from one another and aren’t on the same page at all, even though they think they are. The things Sasuke finds most admirable about Naruto, Naruto tries to hide or cover up. Sasuke looks up to the way Naruto has changed, Naruto always talks about how he hasn’t changed, even bothering with bringing up how his relationship with Sasuke is apparently the same as it used to be. (All these years later, Naruto still considers Sasuke his rival). Naruto still feels inferior to Sasuke, and that’s why he can’t even discuss Sasuke’s good qualities with Sasuke’s own daughter without claiming that he has/had those qualities too, and then in a last ditch effort to feel better about himself, brings up the things about Sasuke that he doesn’t like and specifically contrasts them against himself to make himself look better. When Sasuke talks about Naruto, he doesn’t talk about himself in relation to Naruto. Instead, he highlights the qualities of Naruto that he finds the most admirable and tries to express that to Naruto’s son. 

His actions aren’t contradictory if he actually wanted peace to protect himself from the pain of losing people, and his concern for his brothers was secondary to his desire to avoid emotional pain. Konoha is Hashirama’s attempt to control the world around him, to control death. He can kill his best friend, his brother or his own children to protect it, because he would still be the one in control. Their deaths wouldn’t be random or unexpected. This would explain why Hashirama choose to commit suicide when he had to pick between killing his brother, himself or Madara, because it was the only option that allowed him not to lose anyone. If Hashirama cared about his brother the most, he would have considered how much he would traumatize Tobirama by commiting suicide right in front of him. But he didn’t.

And this criticism is beyond pettty. Do people realize that after his parents died, Sasuke only ever gets one good adult figure in his life. One. And he shared him with the rest of team 7. So if Sasuke was Kakashi's favorite, so what?

In fact Naruto has Kakashi, the Third, Iruka, Jiraiya, Tsunade, Yamato, grandma and Grandpa toads, Killer B, and even Ramen guy. He's got a lot of parental figures, many of which treat him as their favorite.

Sakura has her parents, Kakashi, Yamato, Shizune, and Tsunade.

So Kakashi felt like he could identify with Sasuke a little more... wow. Cry me a river. Sasuke was more similar to him in the trauma they had experienced. He was more consistent support that Kakashi could trust to help him watch over the others. He was the first to demonstrate teamwork, out of who knows how many teams Kakashi failed before them, which is the only reason Naruto and Sakura passed. A good comparison is Iruka was also a teacher for the three of then, but clearly comes to favor Naruto because he saw a similarity. And you don't hear Sasuke's fans complaining about that. And that's fine. Good for Naruto.

The land of waves arc and the data book proves Kakashi did train ALL of them, even if a lot of it was off screen. But when it's revealed that Sasuke is being targeted by Gaara, and Kabuto, and Orochimaru, and Kakashi decided to train Sasuke for like two weeks so that he doesn't die some in the fandom throw a huge pity party about it. Yeah, Naruto complained, but he was wrong. He was being selfish and immature. And he wasn't aware of the bigger picture like Kakashi. Kakashi made the right call. This complaint is all the more petty once you consider the fact that Naruto literally gets a better teacher for the chunin exams anyway.

or why Sasuke and Madara always shine despite the whole plot in their disadvantages.

Hero : a mythological or legendary figure often of divine descent endowed with great strength or ability. b : an illustrious warrior. c : a person admired for achievements and noble qualities. d : one who shows great courage.

Going out of my MGA writing retreat cave for a sec and share with you some of my researches…I don’t have great knowledges of vedic texts and Indian culture but to what I read so far (correct me if I’m wrong) Indra is the King of the devas and Heaven. In similar fashion, Zeus king of other gods in Greek mythology. Indra controls storm, rain, and uses thunderbolt as one of his most deadly weapon. He is both the archetype of the mighty warrior, the slayer of great evil (asuras) and also the life-giver. Because you know, rain fertilises earth (if you get the metaphor 💦… 👀). One of his most famous story is how he destroys Vritra the monstrous snake/dragon, also called an asura, who was responsible for holding back waters and created drought. And by doing this, Indra slain the archaic forces blocking the creation of new lives.

As a Naruto fan, I get now the inspiration for Otsutsuki Indra. Sasuke’s preference for raiton and kirin, Madara as a god of war and user of storm release, the symbol behind Sasuke killing Oroshimaru in his white snake shape, susanoo although a japanese god is still god of storm killing an other massive snake…

It’s kind of funny because Indra is, based on the Vedas tradition, the allegory of the perfect hero. He comes alone, strong-willed, powerful, and slays any obstacles to the natural cycle of life, and by doing so he saves humanity from chaos. And it’s precisely what is despise in the Narutoverse about the characters assimilated to him, namely Uchiha clan and Indra Otsutsuki. Indra opposing his unfair father is bad. The Uchiha clan defending themselves against oppression is devilish, Sasuke seeking revenge is detestable, Madara looking for a world purged of evil is absolutely hideous.

There is as well many shinto inspirations but I’m mostly reading here the story in a Vedic perceptive and you’ll notice something else about the asura’s. It’s not a single god but a group of demons always confronting the devas. They are seen in a negative light, the anti-gods, the power-seekers ect… And it kind of makes sense with Naruto who can’t progress on his own. He needs to be constantly help and surrounded by people. He is also notoriously possessed by a powerful demon who manifest himself in the beginning of the story when Naruto is corned to anger. Notice also that the only way to control this demonic force is either the sharingan assimilated to shinto spiritual strength or Mokuton from the Senju being assimilated with Buddhism spiritual strength.

So now you get where I’m going… isn’t weird that mostly Narutoverse is respecting mythologies and adapt them to its own storyline. For instance the sannin legend, Kaguyahime story. But for Indra and Asura it’s a total reverse of values. Intentionally, the good is bad and the bad is good.

Yeah but the plot Al Hekima, don’t forget the plot ! I know, I know… If your main character is a boy possessed by a demon, befriends with 9 others demons and it’s apparently normal, it will end up this way.

Maybe I’m not objective after all but even before going deeper into analysing the Narutoverse, Indra and the Uchiha clan being seen as cursed and evil by nature, the people who went astray and needed to be beaten into submission, always left me unsettled. Literally, I couldn’t comprehend what was wrong with them which justify so much hate. And in opposite Naruto being possessed by a demon is blatantly black magic. His father is never questioned about doing it to his son, neither Hiruzen to the young Kushina, or Hashirama to his wife (in this case they may have both agree). I know it’s just fiction, but art doesn’t come out of the blue. It’s ingrained in the artist’s set of value, cultures, emotion ect… And the author stressed in interviews that he wanted to bring positive value to his younger audience. I’m just questioning sometimes what are actually those values? For the Uchihas the idea was to forgive, to not fall into hate, and move on. But forgive without justice? Putting the pressure of moving on solely on the victim and never put the perpetuator in a difficult position? Never ask any apology or reform from the aggressor? The victim needs to forgive with no assurance that it won’t happened again. Believe it, right? and eventually the victim needs to help the system who harmed him to keep going… Anyway I’m rambling at this point but that’s always my major philosophical disagreement with Kishimoto.

Agni is the god of fire, lightning and the sun. The Uchiha are mostly Fire Release users, with Sasuke mostly using Fire and Lightning Release.

Sasuke’s ocular techniques are a reference to the three faces of Agni, with Amateratsu having the same powers as Agni’s supernatural weapon.

The Senju Clan’s symbol is the Vajra, Indra’s thunderbolt.

This is a shonen so it would make sense for Naruto to be paralleled to Indra the ultimate hero and savior of humanity.

Indra and Agni are often presented as twin brothers in Hindu mythology, and the Sage has two sons.

Indra is the king of Devas and transplanted the Kalpavriksha, the wish-fulfilling divine tree of life, to his paradise. The Sage created the Tailed Beasts from the God Tree and gave them to his heir.

Indra and Agni are Devas so they benefit from the flowers and fruits of the Kalpavriksha. Both the Senju, Uzumaki and Uchiha Clans could control the Tailed Beasts.

and i dont think it’s a coincidence that indra’s descendants were forced to be the police force, while hoderi’s were forced to be royal attendants and palace guards — roles that both groups resisted with tragic outcomes, in the story and in real life respectively.