you have to be incredibly naive to not believe it. everybody who’s been in the fandom for more than a year knows that there’s a whole system of picking out girls for till (and apparently for richard as well, idk, i was only obsessed with till) and getting them to afterparties. the only thing you need to do is be a hot young (in some cases very fucking young) female. that’s all there is and the talk about how “they sometimes also invite men” is ridiculous because men are never invited to row 0 for one specific purpose, they are there as friends of the band, not as sex objects. the fact that the fandom just accepted that a bunch of (often barely legal) girls are being picked out for every concert just to sexually satisfy their idol which they adore and would do anything for (that’s literally grooming btw, it’s not the case of “oh they wanted it” if they’re literally obsessed with a stranger 40 years older than them) is kind of fucked up if i’m being honest. i was the most hyped about rammstein when i was 17/20 and only now i’m seeing how destructive all of that was. defending someone who absolutely does not deserve it and being affirmed by members of the fandom who are way older that it’s all fine is not normal. i’m only writing this post to try to speak sense into some people here: stop acting like you know them, stop defending them because you’re a fan, stop being delusional and putting impressionable girls in danger because you can’t accept the fact that a 60 year old man in power is a fucking pervert and a sex pest.

A court was favourable to a fucking millionaire accused of sexual misconduct?? Must mean he's innocent. Not gonna point to who's the bigger fucking idiot here. Continue stanning a rotten pedo (or to be more precise - his lawyers) who's had a relationship with a 15 year old, among other things.

Who tf is trying to prevent you from listening to music? The voices in your head?

They used to be my favorite band and this whole scandal broke down when i wasn't really into them anymore but i still loved their music. Now I just have 0 desire to listen to them and it's a shame. I feel like they shaped me, in a way. And some of my alltime favorite songs are from their albums. Maybe I will feel detatched enough to listen to them again but that won't happen anytime soon.

i guess these are the same people who would write love letters to ted bundy lol

cool, now say it to your daughter if she ever gets assaulted, xoxo

I understand how you feel. I would be absolutely heartbroken if it happened 3/4 years ago. But the truth is- no matter how many of those stories are fake, there still has been shit happening in plain sight. Till was proud of his nasty p0rn projects, he was proud about the row zero shit and bjs in between songs. And he never hid his insanely sexist views in interviews as well. I think the entire fandom just really wanted to think he's somehow "different" when in reality he's just a typical old pervert with way too much power. Once you realize it it will probably get easier to accept. No need to lie to yourself, really.

"And if you actually followed this story you would know she retracted and admitted she barely even saw Till." who are you talking about? schollekruspe? the MULTIPLE women on reddit who have been silenced for years by the moderators? the people from Shelby's instagram stories (you actually think it's all fake? you are actually this delusional?)??, what are you talking about?

peter tatgren's wife also posted a comment confirming that it's a thing that happens and SHE WAS TOURING with Lindemann in 2019. i literally remember her posting vague instastories about alena pimping girls and guess what? after that tour tatgren left the band. if you're going to throw a bunch of victim blamy shit at me i want to remind you that till meets up (or used to meet up, whatever) with youngest of girls (i literally remember checking ages of all those "fans" he used to cuddle with in restaurants and some of them weren't even 18) in russia. and russian law enforcement would never even touch him for that. also if you really see nothing wrong with picking out young girls for him as if they're toys (demanding them to look and dress a certain way, lmao) then you really are brainwashed.