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*cracking open your moral intuition systems* ohhh i see, there's the issue, you're running secularism on a kernel built for protestant morality.
Tricky one cause the kernel's built around creating the need for salvation from a higher power, and you'll have to change up a lot of the systems for evaluating your own and others' moral worth to avoid operating with a deficit when there's no inbuilt release valve.
You haven't been going around making up ad-hoc solutions for redeeming sinners instead of trying to patch out the notion of sin, right?
when people who want to be vaguely progressive say 'nature' all secular style but it's painfully obvious they mean 'god' while thinking they don't mean god
"natural behaviour" "the natural body" "nature intended" "nature created" no da fuck it didn't
“Culture tends to argue that it forbids only that which is unnatural. But from a biological perspective, nothing is unnatural. Whatever is possible is by definition also natural. A truly unnatural behaviour, one that goes against the laws of nature, simply cannot exist, so it would need no prohibition.” - Yuval Noah Harari
Yep, all of this. I've had to deal with two major ideas of "nature" relative to Christianity:
the idea, predicated on the doctrine of creation and the fall, that God is the one who orders all things, and that in the disordered world, only that which represents theologically-correct and so moral order is natural; and
the idea, in response to the assertion that only Christianity is allowed to look at the world and say what is natural and what is not, that if we really want to know about God, we have to combine our reading of the book of the Bible with the book of nature.
The first, which owes so much of its spread to being a systematic feature of dominant forms of both Roman Catholic and Anglo-Dutch Calvinist (Evangelical) theologies, is built on a dichotomy of denying that anything that exists in its "natural" state as we find it is what it truly should be, and asserting that the constructed order of "our" social systems is truly the nature of "nature," to which everything must therefore be conformed. And so we are helping God when we force the world to only be the way we say it should be, or destroy and punish it when it will not. Not only people, but all things, must essentially be converted to Christianity to be restored to their natural state—which justifies vast colonial empires that seek to "save" what will yield to them, and use, abuse, and destroy all that will not.
The second, generally a reaction to the first, is still predicated on the Christian doctrine of creation, but with a differently-defective view of the doctrine of the fall. Rather than declaring that everything not conformed to one narrow idea of order is in disorder, the pluralistic approach still treats "natural" as a reference to and reflection of orders of creation and so capable of reflecting truth about God to us. Where "natural theology" for the first approach is a reification of imperial culture as divine will, for the second approach "natural theology" is open to what the sciences can tell us about the world—but insists on treating that information theologically. This is often asserted as a way to get around and outside of imperial Christianity—while operating entirely on imperial Christian presuppositions about the world anyways.
Dr. Harari may be a gay, vegan, atheist Israeli who practices Buddhism, but he's got a problem built into his futurism: he is an accelerationist, occupying the ultimately affirming niche that says that what the tech industry calls "progress" is inevitable, and that the "dangers" predicted to come from its impossible and essentially religious "predictions" must be managed. So when Harari tells you that even the artificial is natural, he's doing something more than just telling you that everything humans do or make is an extension of humanity, nothing more. He's arguing in favor of a capitalist hellscape built on that first view of "natural theology," but as the flipside of the imperial Calvinism that manufactured capitalism in the first place. Whereas Evangelicalism uses the language of "intelligent design" to declare that God is the reason for any sensible order to the way things are, Harari uses the same language of "intelligent design" to declare that techno-futurism is how humanity takes charge of that task. The determinism that grounds his project is no different than the determinism Calvinism has constructed to ground the inevitability of its imperial projects. We are the ones actually in charge in both cases, and the claim to inevitability is a theopolitical sham covering the use of force to abuse and destroy what is not considered worthy of salvation.
You cannot build a dark mirror of Christian theology and do anything but reaffirm it, any more than you can assert the doctrine of creation outside of the imperial imposition of order on the world, and not be imposing Christian order on the world. And maybe it does Christian theology a favor to strip it off of the systems of its colonial violence and reveal that they function just as well without Christianity, and that the theopolitics were never about God in the first place.
So the quote Derin has used is nice, exactly as far as it goes, but we could stick with the idea that the world itself is our best teacher about its reality, and that we should learn about what is, from what is, rather than imposing ideology in front of that to filter what is into claims and projects about what should and should not be. Ethics is still a necessary task, and one that is only damaged by projections of the inevitability of destructively transformative theopolitical projects, whosever they may be.
so a realization that I had upon starting my Vorkosigan Saga reread is that...I'd never actually read Gentleman Jole and the Red Queen the first time around. I bought it around when it came out - but I was having a Bad Time around then, looked at the back, and decided I was not at that point up for what was probably going to be a very well-done but nonetheless devastating exploration of grief and loss, so on my shelf for later it went.
and then. I kind of forgot. it sat on my shelf for so long that it eventually passed into the category of "surely I have read this book I own, the last book in this series I adore." and then I started my reread and was looking something up on the wiki for reference and found:
and went WHAT. WHAT. OKAY I WOULD HAVE REMEMBERED THAT.
so I got impatient and jumped ahead to read that one. and it was delightful. I think I felt like it'd be bleak, but it's not??? the grief is certainly there and it hits when it needs to hit, and there are moments from melancholy to heartbreaking, but it's also funny and hopeful and sweet and charming; I was reading it the whole way through in permanent Good For Her(TM) mode.
some of my favorite moments:
Vorinnis accidentally roasting Jole by making him feel a million years old (mood, brother, college students are doing this to me often. What Do You Mean you were born in 2007.)
the little examples sprinkled throughout about how Barrayaran society is changing (the female officers corp! the medical center in Hassadar!)
"Asssertive, perhaps. As you may recall," followed immediately by Jole choking on his wine (...which could mean anything)
Aral canonically confirmed for kinky as hell, in a grand victory for Fandom Assumptions
every single thing that happens in The Shack oh my GOD
the fact that it apparently took a whole security detail conspiracy to keep the Vorkosigan throuple under wraps and Miles STILL didn't figure it out
"Screwing, dear."
THE DRAWINGS
Cordelia's joke about Aral being the first Barrayaran to discover the burrowing radials
Jole and Miles's garden talk where Miles is re-evaluating his entire perception of his parents and Jole is meanwhile just. on so so many painkillers (that whole conversation was very sweet)
the two ending lines before the epilogue. the ending lines of the epilogue. THE ENDING.
what a great coda to the series. god. 10/10 would finish at 2 AM and lie awake in bed for the next hour experiencing indescribable emotions again
i was explaining to a friend how janeway was barred from having a very active sex life by the writers because it was the nineties and they didn't want her to have her competency questioned for it and her response was to say that it's not equality if kirk gets to sow his wild oats across the galaxy but janeway's not allowed to fuck. and she's right. every female captain after janeway is either in a committed relationship or has very few sexual partners. we need a female captain on star trek who fucks hard and often
This is why I love Emperor Georgiou. Yall need to watch DISCO fr
... yeah, so here's the thing, it's well-known that the Mirror Universe is where you find Version of Character Who Fucks. (See Major Kira vs The Intendant.)
Captain Georgiou was Janeway. She wasn't even allowed to screw up. (And I'm not sure she made it to the Klingon equivalent of a refrigerator, even if she died to advance a woman as main character. Oh, and also Saru.)
Emperor Georgiou is allowed to fuck because she's from the immorally deviant version of our universe. Everything she does that reminds the pure, morally-upstanding Trek audience of sexual deviance, is in service of that Roddenberry-and-Berman moralism, even if Disco manages to use that crowbar against it to create space for queerness as within the norm. (Our gays are respectable.) She is not Captain Georgiou, this is the whole point of her, and there is a constant madonna/whore thing going on as part of the moral arc of her character's intended redemption. Otherwise she exists to create plot space where rules can be bent or broken without violating Gene's Law, because even when she fights the "bad guys" and wins with benefits for the "good guys," she does it wearing the scarlet letter so they don't have to.

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In matters of taste, the author is always dead.
Give the reader what she wants.
Someone will say "as a queer person in the heart of empire, my life is in danger every day" and you'll find out they're a developer for Amazon and live in San Francisco or Seattle or some shit, and then you'll meet a trans girl from Alva, OK who's like "Yeah, things are pretty good. AutoZone moved me to full-time."
Someone in a queer group in my current blue city said that they didn't like expressions of solidarity because it "diluted their oppression".
#That's what I mean when I say the foundation of feminism and queer community should not fixate on victimhood #Once you feel that our suffering is our shared experience an not our love then our suffering becomes vital to the culture #I don't want a culture where suffering is vital #I want a culture where love is celebrated #The suffering is an imposition not a prerequisite #And yeah I sure fucking hope our oppression is diluted bitch you WANT us freebasing the uncut shit???
going insane over margaret houlihan because how is she literally everything anyone could ever want in a character all at once??
she's a good guy. she's a bad guy. she's a protagonist. she's an antagonist. she's bursting with incredible care and kindness. she's a huge jerk. her mother is an alcoholic. her father is dead. her father is alive and she's living in his shadow. she desperately wants him to be proud of her. she struggles to be proud of herself. she's a staunch patriot and the army is her life. she will lie and forge documents if it's the right thing to do. she's stern and sharp and she barks orders. she loves children. she doesn't want a cookie-cutter life. she's an angel of mercy. she wears her heart on her sleeve. she can't ever let anybody truly, truly know her. she got married and then divorced in the '50s and it was tragic and great fun both times. she fucks like crazy. she's best frenemies with the main character. she thinks he stinks and he's her dearest friend. she does whatever she wants and doesn't apologise. she craves validation. she's soft and sweet and she loves so deeply. she will shoot you with a gun. she hates explosions and the sounds of war. she's spent her whole life working to get here. she fits right in. she hates it. it's like she was engineered in a lab to be the most obsess-over-able The Character on planet earth i'm dying of margaret-itis
And for the blonde man, perhaps some torture?
#foreigner series#bren Cameron
Immediately reminded me of this @babischlong-six image
CAPTAIN JANEWAY JUST SAID RPF IS FINE???
I'm crying she basically just said
Not only "RPF is fine" and "RPF might improve morale," but also "No, I'm not taking down your RPF holonovel just because you now feel some kind of way about its popularity and have developed a pseudo-logical explanation for why it is 'dangerous,' git gud."
Like, this is a challenge for the crew to do better than Tuvok at something, and I think that in itself is amazing for morale.
(Also, to be clear, the fact that this almost resulted in the deaths of crewmembers and the destruction of the ship in basically no way distinguishes it from your average Tuesday on board Voyager, so ...)

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CAPTAIN JANEWAY JUST SAID RPF IS FINE???
I'm crying she basically just said
Not only "RPF is fine" and "RPF might improve morale," but also "No, I'm not taking down your RPF holonovel just because you now feel some kind of way about its popularity and have developed a pseudo-logical explanation for why it is 'dangerous,' git gud."
Like, this is a challenge for the crew to do better than Tuvok at something, and I think that in itself is amazing for morale.
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OP, have you considered implementing more enrichment in your dynasty's enclosure? An arranged assassination attempt, for example, or a few quietly-fomented rebellions in outer sectors ...
many women are excited to get old and weird, but i have great news that it's fully possible to become weird now, before you get old. just imagine the heights of weirdness you will be able to reach in fifty years if you get started now. that's what I think
Fangirl Squeal! I sent my Foreigner Transit Map to CJ Cherry, because why not, and she replied!
Bren in Invader: if anything happened to Banichi and Jago I'd kill everyone in this room and then myself.
Banichi: That is not how this works, Bren'ji.
Bren: Well it is now.
I've been rereading and just encountered this passage in Explorer:
Banichi leaned back from the table, simply contemplating the matter. Then: “So we take this prisoner. And distribute brochures. And perhaps we shall find Sabin-aiji and find out her intentions. There are very many pieces to this plan.” “And I shall go with you.” “No, Bren-ji.” “Absolutely necessary. I can walk up to humans and wish them good day. You are far more conspicuous, nadiin-ji.” “He has a point,” Jago said. “If these humans threaten us, we might hesitate to shoot them; but if Bren-ji is with us, we shall have no hesitation.”
The layers, upon layers, to them coming together as a team!
The first time Bren runs back for one of his bodyguard, he gets slugged for it. By his bodyguard! Because he's not their lord, he's their principal; he's their job as an object, not a subject. (The subject is Tabini.) And he's done something utterly stupid and wrong to the atevi mind: he has jumped in a direction .
But by the time we get to the first space trilogy, Bren has accrued not only a household full of atevi who ... cannot officially say they feel man'chi toward him, but also a team of four Guild Assassins of high skill assigned to him who also ... cannot officially say they feel man'chi toward him. And this not-technically-an-aishid has been acting, for the entire first trilogy, like Bren is an object and not a subject. They work for Tabini, they are not an aishid, they are emphatically not Bren's aishid, except they are, because what else could they be?
But on their own planet, on their own continent, in their own culture, those barriers are solid. In space, on a human starship, on a human space station, with their own island of atevi sanity precariously constructed adjacent to the Dowager's, and Tabini two years away, the walls come down. The shapes they are in, as household, as aishid, anchored on Bren—what if they stopped pretending it was pretense? What if they let it be real?
What if, Jago says, we let Bren really play the part of our liege lord? Then we can stop playing parts, and our instincts will just work. The one thing that's missing, the one thing that's not "real" about their arrangement, is Bren as object. And Bren has never, to this point, really slotted in neatly that way. The shapes of atevi life around him don't precisely work if he isn't their active, agentic subject. There's an atevi intimacy to the aishid wrapping itself around their lord, a gut-level rightness, that's being held at a distance as Banichi and Jago keep treating their job as in some sense still working for Tabini, part of which is guarding the human, part not. Sure, they're going to have to deal with the fact that their lord has a tendency to try to protect them—but that has its own benefits, and out here in space, surrounded by humans, making up so much as they go along, can you imagine the temptation as they give in to it?
And when they return home, to the other half of the aishid, left behind, to the bulk of the household, left behind, to the office staff, for that matter, left behind, all left still reaching for the anchor displaced two years away in space, not in fact having gone off to other man'chi, or returned neatly to Tabini? Everyone is going to take their lead, not least because in chaos that is the most basic atevi instinct. Especially because attaching themselves to Bren for real, as Bren and the Dowager and Cajeiri together set the world back on its axis, as Tabini returns, as the whole complex, massive structure of man'chi returns and is affirmed, proves itself right because Bren proves himself part of it all.

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Bren in Invader: if anything happened to Banichi and Jago I'd kill everyone in this room and then myself.
Banichi: That is not how this works, Bren'ji.
Bren: Well it is now.
I've been rereading and just encountered this passage in Explorer:
Banichi leaned back from the table, simply contemplating the matter. Then: “So we take this prisoner. And distribute brochures. And perhaps we shall find Sabin-aiji and find out her intentions. There are very many pieces to this plan.” “And I shall go with you.” “No, Bren-ji.” “Absolutely necessary. I can walk up to humans and wish them good day. You are far more conspicuous, nadiin-ji.” “He has a point,” Jago said. “If these humans threaten us, we might hesitate to shoot them; but if Bren-ji is with us, we shall have no hesitation.”
Duck Amuck | Director: Chuck Jones | Studio: Warner Bros. | USA, 1953
NOT ME YOU SLOP ARTIST
This is a close up? A CLOSE UP YA JERK! A CLOSEUP!
Alright, let’s get this picture started! (The End) NO NOOOOO!
One of the defining moments of animation history.
“Ain’t I a stinker?”
In Babylon 5, didn’t one of the non-humans think Daffy was the god of frustration?
Holy shit, this is nearly 70 years old. This would have been right on the heels of color television being commercially available to the public.
@amayatepes look at this
LMAO
Huh. That’s just a whole ass Daffy Duck cartoon.
Everything about this cartoon is top-notch. The timing, the animation (watch Daffy’s different walks) the art; this is a treasure
On the Babylon 5 connection: to be clear, Zack Allan, Chief Garibaldi's second, finds G'Kar in Garibaldi's quarters, trying to ... absorb his vibe, to prepare to go out looking for him, after he's been abducted by the Shadows. And there's a poster of Daffy Duck over his bed, at which G'Kar is puzzled, wondering whether it is something like a religious icon. And Zack laughs, then thinks for a minute and says, "Yeah, it's sort of the Egyptian God of Frustration."
We see Garibaldi make very early-series references to his "favorite thing in the universe," which are passed off as sexual innuendo at first, with Ms. Winters. But then we see him with Delenn, in his quarters, watching cartoons, and she is eating popcorn and puzzling over "Duck Dodgers" as presumably Garibaldi explains.
This cartoon, however, where Bugs Bunny is tormenting Daffy Duck, appears later, after Garibaldi has been rescued from the Shadows/Psi Corps, when in fact they are still torturing him, using a personality overlay to turn him against everyone on the station, and we see Garibaldi with absolutely, brutally flat affect while Daffy is screaming in confusion and frustration, representing the real Garibaldi inside his head, who cannot get out.