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Second, not only is Creddie retconned away, the showrunners (aka Miranda and Jerry at this point) decided to make Freddie a simp loser, treated worst than Dan could've ever possibly treated him. By twenty-six, he's saddled with two ex-wives, an adopted child that resents him... and let's not kid ourselves, she's there to fill a diversity quota for the show... and having to live with his mother when his businesses fail. He can bring nothing to the table in a relationship and there is no reason any woman, least long Carly, would want to be with him. They utterly character assassinated him. Third, Carly has been happily with someone else for the last five years and if not just to have a premise for the start of the revival in him dumping her out of the blue, she had every intention of staying with her boyfriend. The revival later reiterates that Carly had no romantic feelings for Freddie until the end of the revival's season 2 (which at this point, is eleven years after they graduated) and her confessing she had thought about them as a couple and thought about it and thought about it with the answer being no each time. Finally, any eventual Creddie in the series would be the characters' third, fourth, fifth, etc. option, because the failures of all the other times due to writers' fiat than a legitimate reason. The story would just be a rehash of the Creddie journey with excessive emotionally baggage and desperately playing catch up to make up for lost time... which it became in Season 3. In conclusion, an original Creddie fan had considerable reasons not to watch this show as a legitimate continuation of the original series. The third season when they get together does serve as an interesting alternative universe setting to watch a version of Creddie be played out Miranda and Nathan, which shows they have fantastic chemistry together. If they would've started the show off that way, I believe the viewership would've been greater, with the ending of the show being the birth of their first child. *Unrelated Points* 1. If the final kiss wasn't sealing Creddie, Freddie would've went down to L.A. and got with Tori Vega from Victorious and lived happily ever after since they had maintained a friendship after iParty with Victorious. He's in the audience in 'Who did it to Trina?' as Freddie, not just Nathan stopping by to be a background character. 2. They couldn't even get their graduation year right. They are the graduating class of 2012, not 2013. iOMG is the end of their junior year as it is a lock-in leading up to their exams sometime in June (Ridgeway became a year round school to explain the Seddie Arc happening while they were still in school) and iHalf-o-ween the following April/May confirms they're in their senior year. Just counting the episodes after that at a semi- or weekly biases puts the last episode around or even after their graduation.

Could they capture lightning in a bottle again as they did with Victorious all those years ago? I don't know. I would hope they release it as a weekly release and not dump it all at once to allow for the chance to build a new audience on its own. Let's give this new cast a chance to shine and be impactful to the new generation as the original cast was to the original fans. I am hopeful for guest returns of some of the originals as they have all been supportive of Daniella taking the lead is this, but I will not fault nor should the original fans fault, any original cast member that can't return. These people have separate lives with their own schedules, could have legitimate disagreements with how their character would be written or want to come back for more than just a cameo. Also, for a minor point, I really hope someone remembered to count and realize that the original cast graduated in June of 2012 since if one counts the episodes from 'A Christmas Tori' (which is the Christmas of their senior year) to the last one on a weekly basis, they would've graduated after the final episode... which production wise is 'Star Spangled-Tori', not the final aired episode of 'Victori-Yes'. Oh, and Trina stayed an extra year in high school to even be there for their senior year. For the Sam & Cat fans, gentle reminder, that is an alternate universe spin-off from iCarly and Victorious as in that show, they aged the characters back a year or two (depending on the character) as a plot point and kept them in school an extra year.

The writers have now done another disservice to the character. They took her business, which is her baby and she openly said the business was metaphoric her baby, and Liam still won’t give her a baby to be a mother. Now, how will she be any different than her dream-self Anders showed her in being a listless heiress—which the lesson she learned was that wasn’t the person she wanted to be?

Well, the ending to Episode 4x17 was an interesting turn of events and I’ve seen a bit of the back and forth as to who is to blame for the deteriorating Falliam. So, I thought I’d put my two cents into the conversation in a long form opinion. I will give the writers credit in a slow burn with the conflict between Liam and Fallon, but it is an unnecessary and wholly invented one that ignores the characters they’ve established. I believe the best approach would be addressing Liam’s points at the ending of the episode one by one, since they make up the parts of his overall conflict with her about putting everything before him. “Something is always coming up” as he puts it, even though that is exactly what is happening. He believes she’s putting these points before him and they’re not justified. 1. She’s too busy focusing on her business than their marriage at this time. Liam knew from day one that she had one overall goal in her life once it was clear Blake was never going to see her as a proper heir: create her own dynasty that she would pass onto her children. He openly said he admired her for that back in Season 2. He’s already denied her children. Yes, he placated her at the moment of it being something they would discuss again in the future, but at the moment, it is a hard no for him. He acknowledged back in the ‘Drops of Jupiter’ episode as I like to call it, that when she was going to take her business public, she was extremely busy for a short amount of time, the same time he would be too writing his next book. This is a plot point for the episode for their characters and not something to just throw away. He expected that this was going to happen, but for some inexplicable reason he started complaining about her being busy during the busy season, similar to complaining a florist would be busy the day before Valentine’s Day. He acts as if evenings and weekends do not exist and that other couples have to spend their time. 2. He’s mad that she put fighting off a hostile takeover of her company than spending time with him. The initial busy time was finally over and they would get back to their normal routine of balance, but then Collin returns. Liam’s apparent position in Ep 4x17 is that her going on a lunch date with him is more important than her keeping control of her own company. If we’re supposed to take him at his word that he thinks it’s more important to give him attention during that time than save her business, she’s right that he doesn’t want her to have a career. He should be there supporting her just as he did back when Collin first showed up. A side note, where was he to stand up and protect his wife from the guy that is only doing this out of petty revenge for something that happened in high school? He’s supposedly an investigative reporter, so there would be a lot of things he could do to pressure him to stop. 3. Investigating and potentially getting rid of Fallon’s new sister. Liam might have a point here that she could just being petty and not put this new ‘mission’ in front of him... if it wasn’t for the fact previous mysterious sibling that showed up nearly murdered him. I think that would be a great and justified concern for Fallon to ascertain if she is a true threat. So, at the end of it, I think think his points are wholly irrational and Fallon may have a point that he doesn’t want her to have a career. He’s denied her children and now he wants her to feel guilty for having a career...

So, from what we learned a few days ago, Freddie didn’t get with Carly or Sam. He got with another woman and has a stepdaughter... so, they beta-maled Freddie harder than Dan could ever write to the point he’s now having to raise another man’s child. This is not realistic at all for Freddie. If he didn’t get with Carly or Sam, he had far better options than hooking up with a single mother. Heck, he could have gotten with Tori from Victorious or Shelby or heck, found himself a nice eighteen year old to wife up. If you think I’m joking with the last part, look at Backhouse Mike--the writer for Drake and Josh, iCarly and Victorious music--at 36 getting with 18/19 year old Liz Gillies from Victorious. They got married late last year. The idea that they are going to tease us with the possibility of Creddie is just that, a tease. He’s already married and if she’s suddenly out of the picture, it makes it worst that now he’s raising another couple’s child and he would just be settling for Carly after all this time. With these creative decisions made, this was clearly made for some mythical audience and not iCarly fans, whether they were general, Creddie or Seddie. Frankly, I’m glad Jennette decided she didn’t want any part of this dumpster fire.