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Sooo, I'm not sure if anyone will really show interest, but I want everyone to know: I fucking love to chat, sometimes I miss communication and I'm especially happy to chat about the hazbin hotel and Alastor×Vox in almost any of their interpretation, I have a damn strong hyperfix haha) And if someone wants to write to me? Oh, please, I'll be damn glad to chat!! Really, I will be very happy, it is very desirable, if someone wants to talk, I will be happy <3
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I don't know if I'm the only one with Ao3 down right now or if everyone is, but my site doesn't open or load AT ALL, even though the Internet is fine and everything else is working fine... And it's been going on for hours(( AND I'M DYING HAAAAAAA 😭😭😭😭😭 I haven't finished reading the fanfic((((
And btw, I love the fact that both Valentino and Velvette have never, almost with the exception of Valentino's final phrase "you are not fucking killing us over that stupid deer", neither he nor Velvette HAVE EVER blamed Alastor for Vox's disgusting behavior. Not once has Alastor been told that it's because of his manipulations that Vox is behaving like an asshole
Fandom sometimes tends to justify Vox by saying that Alastor "homewrecker" and his manipulations are to blame for Vox's behavior, that it was he who turned Vox against Vees, and not Vox himself chose to behave this way
But Val and Vel themselves, as far as I can see, treat Alastor rather indifferently/situationally positive and love to tease Vox for his obsession with Alastor lol. And yet in this whole situation in the second season, they get mad at VOX, they only pay attention to VOX's behavior
They don't give a shit what Alastor is doing/thinking/saying. Vox is important to them! And accordingly, they themselves do not absolve him of responsibility for his actions, I'm sure Vox will still get into trouble for being such an asshole in the second season
They know that Vox is an asshole and he is THEIR asshole
I just like that the Vees themselves are quite okay with Alastor lol
Actually, btw, one of the things that I like about Valentino as a character is that he is clearly polyamorous and he is incredibly comfortable with it! That is, it is clear from the Vox that he is jealous, he is clearly a very jealous person. So I can't imagine that he's always completely comfortable? And Valentino is completely at ease and he literally encourages Vox to fuck whoever he likes!! Well Valentino's is LITERALLY the main shipper of radiostatic, no one can convince me lol)
I've been playing board games a lot lately, and I'm sure that Vox has a 100% terrible competitive streak. He will bluff, cheat, GET TERRIBLY ANGRY, and play to the last, persuade for another game just to take revenge, anything just to win
But Alastor's main goal is different, of course he likes to win, but it's much more important for him to sow chaos, strife and swearing between EVERYONE, annoy EVERYONE at the gaming table, become the most important thorn in the whole game pushing everyone's heads together and becoming the fucking king of ragebait. If he also wins at the same time, this is an ideal option. But he will be more than satisfied if at the very end he is defeated by united efforts if at the same time he becomes the main star of the evening whom everyone will hate lol) He such a brat hahahaha
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I fucking hate periods... I have my first day of my period today, and I have constant pain in my lower back and stomach all this time, and painkillers help alleviate the discomfort, but they don't help completely.... It's not too terrible a pain, but it's constant and constantly distracting, it's terribly annoying and I hate the existence of menstruation....
My chaotic stream of headcanons lol
It seems to me that despite the fact that Vox is in a free/situational relationship with Valentino, he would be pleased if Val were little jealous? I don't think Vox would be happy if Val was SERIOUSLY jealous. He would immediately say that Val fucks a bunch of whores every day and has no right to open his mouth
Although to be honest, Valentino doesn't give the impression of being a jealous person towards Vox, he is the main shipper radiostatic lol
But playful jealousy from Val and possessive sex? Vox would have felt VERY needed, it would have GREATLY amused his already huge ego hahaha
And what if Alastor, in the universe of radiostatic/radiosilence/other variations of this ship, had shown possessive feelings towards Vox?
He'd be fucking THRILLED LMAO
Vox would 100% add fuel to the fire, realizing that since possessive sex is excluded, possessive FIGHTING is still a feasible option hahahaha
One of the things I love most about Alastor and Vox pairing (in almost any fan variation, including canon) It's that they're BOTH insufferable bastards. They are BOTH aggressors. They're BOTH trying to hurt each other. They are BOTH hypocritical ego maniacs.
I really like that it's always a CONFRONTATION and it never turns into abuse. There are two aggressors, but there are NO victims. I really like that, regardless of their dynamics in the first or second season, including during the time when Alastor is formally in captivity, they still keep the confrontation of two equals as much as possible.
And that's why I hate it to the point of pain when one of them is turned into a victim of the other.
They're both terrible people, there's not a single good person in all this shit. And I love it!
And by the way, during the battle for the Hotel in the first season, as far as I understand, the hotel distributed angelic weapons to everyone involved in the battle.
Neither Angel, Hask, nor Alastor tried to steal this weapon in order to kill their soul owner forever and free themselves.
Let's assume Angel is still perversely tied to Val and is afraid to do anything because Vox and Velvet are also behind Val. Hask doesn't really hate Alastor to kill him forever, he doesn't have enough motivation. And Alastor? With him and Rosie, too, everything is debatable in terms of affection, but if Alastor is driven enough, he can be provoked into anything, it seems to me.
Why didn't he keep something for himself, even just in case? Or didn't you buy it directly from Carmilla? Rosie may be stronger than him, but a surprise attack with an angelic weapon is still death forever. And then he's free even without all that grand plan in season two.
Perhaps he is still quite attached to her / has common goals with her, just wants to achieve them on equal terms / has plans not for her? Difficult...
But from the last post, I have another thought. It's hard to judge for sure, but as far as I understand, the rule "My Vassal's vassal is not my Vassal" works in the Hazbin universe. And using Alastor's example, YOU can be an overlord without owning your soul.
So can any sinner theoretically become stronger than his master by collecting other people's souls? And thus, in fact, even without the need to break the contract of souls, he will become mostly free. Because yes, the owner can pull on the leash, but if you are STRONGER, then nothing prevents you from beating/killing him? If the soul contract does not have the power to enforce any orders. And it only prevents the victim from escaping - by means of a leash
This is especially likely to be true among weak, novice sinners who are just trying to become overlords who have only a few souls on the contract. In fact, any of their souls can become stronger relatively quickly.
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One of the things I'm most looking forward to is when the mechanics of soul contracts and deals will be revealed in future seasons. Because from what is shown to us now in all the current soul contracts:
Rosie - Alastor
Alastor - Husk
Valentino - Angel
In all soul contracts, all the "owners" of souls, for example, Alastor does not show that he can ORDER Hask and he will have no choice to do it due to some kind of magical compulsion. That is, Alastor, in fact, in the scene with the Castle, pulled him by the leash, threatened, humiliated, and so on. But the only thing the CONTRACT did in this situation was to prevent the Husk from escaping. If Alastor could, I'm sure he would have ordered Husky never to tell anyone in any form that Alasto is also on a leash, including in conversation with Alastor himself. But apparently he can't.
From what is shown to us in all these three contracts, the owners of souls can pull on the leash, humiliate, threaten and use any other influence, but in fact the only thing that the contract itself gives is the very leash that prevents the victim from escaping. But any other impact occurs only because:
Rosie is stronger than Alastor
Alastor is stronger than Husk
Valentino is stronger than Angel
But the contract of the soul itself does not force anything. While the DEAL that, for example, was between Alastor and Charlie, at the end of the second season, as it was shown, forced Charlie to say that Vox was the most powerful sinner in hell. She had no choice.
And I wonder how it really works, in fan works it is almost always shown that the soul contract still has magical power, in that it forces you to follow any orders, but I don't see it being canonical yet.
Both Husk, Angel, and Alastor have complete free will in their behavior. They are limited only by the fact that their owners are stronger than them
Btw, why does it seem to me that Vox is one of those guys who would be very ashamed and uncomfortable carrying his partner's "feminine" handbag in his hands? And it doesn't matter if it's a Valentino handbag or a Velvette, he will be VERY uncomfortable and he will be VERY annoyed lol
Haha Vox and his toxic masculinity XD
To be honest, it still seems very sweet to me that Alatsor actively succumbed to/indulged Vox in the second season. Like, yes, I understand that it was all manipulation, but God!!
The way he tried to appear shorter than he was during the deal, even though they were about the same height
Or how he kept pressing his ears to his head
Or how he kept his hands behind his back, even though Vox always tied only his torso, and even then only weakly, and Alastor calmly pulled out his hand to greet Lucifer, and basically turned around in his chair as he wanted
I don't know, it's just so cute lol, especially in contrast to the ending where Alastor just destroyed Vox morally (and I love it when Vox suffers, this asshole NEEDS to be humiliated, and Vox is my second favorite character btw lol)
Honestly, after reading a bunch of fanfiction where Vox is a transgender man, I'm so used to it that it's hard for me to remember that it's NOT canon?
Damn it, but I wish it was canon, it would be just fucking awesome! The fandom has created so many headcounts on this topic that are already literally settled in my head as the truth lol)
Although I understand that it would probably be difficult for him to become a cult leader in his lifetime if people perceived him as a woman? Before the transgender transition. Damn sexism, prevents terrible murderers and egomaniacs from doing terrible things (it's ALL a joke lol)
To be honest, most of all, when talking about the friendship of Vees, or rather about their discord in the second season, I don't like the way many people somehow absolve Vox of responsibility for the betrayal of Vees.
People say that "he didn't behave the way he usually does, and Valentino and Velvet understand that" "Alastor manipulated him, Vox doesn't usually behave like that!"
But Vox's problem was identified back in the first episode of the second season BEFORE Alastor, where he said "Trust ME" and not "Trust US" for the first time
Alastor's manipulations really have a significant effect on Vox, it's obvious to everyone. But Vox is an intelligent, adult man who is responsible for his decisions.
The feeling when I see that some part of the fandom justifies Vox is something like this, I'll give you an example:
A guy and a girl are in a relationship, and the guy is cheating on his girlfriend with another girl. And society begins to blame the mistress, not the guy. For the fact that she "stole" the guy, who has a relationship. But the problem is that the guy is responsible for his own decisions, and it was his decision to commit adultery when he knew he was in a relationship.
I feel about the same vibe from this whole situation and the fandom's reaction to this situation.
Because it was Vox's choice in the first place - he treats Valentino and Velvet terribly throughout the season, and even actively plans to leave them, as he said "I won't need a squad" in one of the songs.
Yes, Alastor influenced him, Yes, Alastor is a very strong trigger for Vox, yes, Alastor is the main psychological trauma for Vox.
But that doesn't excuse him. It was his decision to betray Vees. He chose to betray their friendship, he chose to ignore them. There is no such thing as "deep down he didn't want this, he appreciated them and loved them as friends, it's only Alastor's fault that Vox behaved inappropriately!"
Vox was adequate enough to work tirelessly, it was adequate enough for public speaking, plans, propaganda, manipulation - Vox was adequate enough for all this.
He had a real breakdown only in the final episode, and even then it can hardly be called a psychosis when a person is not responsible for their actions. It was a terrible, incredibly strong emotional breakdown, but Vox still hadn't crossed the line where a person wasn't responsible for their actions.
Vox was aware enough of his actions to think it over and decide that he could treat Valentino and Velvet like trash. And the beginnings of this behavior were even before Alastor surrendered.
Of course, the Vees still have every chance to restore their friendship, they have been business partners and friends for many decades.
But there is no need to justify Vox by saying that it was Alastor who manipulated him, Vox still independently made the choice to reject and betray Vees. That was his opinion, he said with his own mouth, "I won't need a squad." It wasn't Alastor who forced it on him. Alastor aggravated all Vox's existing problems, he brought him out on emotions - but you can't say that Vox didn't have his own head on his shoulders.
In order for the entire supposed arc of reconciliation between the Vees and the development of their friendship in the future to be meaningful, we all really need to admit that there WAS a betrayal, and Vox and only Vox are fully responsible for this. Alastor's manipulations pushed Vox, but he was still sane enough to be responsible for his actions
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I do not know how many times I have admired this, but I ABSOLUTELY adore Alastor's manner of communication... He's so polite, arrogant, condescending! He's incredibly mannered, and damn, I love his voice. Amir has done a damn INCREDIBLE job, it's amazing. His voice creates such an incredible impression, like in many of Alastor's lines it is literally not clear whether he treats kindly or VERY condescendingly? Is he flirting or humiliating? Damn it, he's just a BRAT SLAY DIVA, how I adore Alastor who would knows. I do not know how he can be both very polite and very aggressive and insult/humiliate people all the time, but he DOES it. He such a brat, literally edgelord, ragebait fucking Queen! I love him so much haha
I just thought about it... Does Valentino have a golden tooth, like the souls that belong to him? At least Angel's is for sure.
And I was wondering - what the fuck does the dental industry look like in HELL??? If stamatology costs incredible money on earth, then in HELL??
Where is capitalism even worse than on earth?
Haha, I don't know, I just think it's a lot of fun lol, imagine what kind of stamotologists are in hell X)