someday we'll bully jackie into writing fic too and link it here <3
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the gallaghercest primer by @snickfic
oasis + gallagher timeline by @storyshark2005
the oasis/gcest ep of the talkin' fanfic podcast (also by @storyshark2005)
ā³ and its companion ep, an interview with @jeevey
excellent meta on the causes of the 2008/9 relationship breakdown
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matt morgan podcast eps directory
songs liam & noel have written about each other (?)
our fic recs tag
some gig recs
resources for finding gigs to watch
our overview of oasis books
a few documentary recs
some liam interview recs (will we ever do one for noel? is that physically even possible? who can say...)
archive of print press links by @sssaaassshhh
trill's gdrive of random bootleg oasis tunes
bal's found oral history of the infamous Whisky A Go Go gig
(pre)meditation - noello going solo found poem thingy
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#communiques is our ask tag, lots of random info + resources
#print archive stuff is... exactly what it sounds like; here is a list of resources we use to fill that tag
#ours is where we put our edits, clipped audio/video, etc
BEFORE YOU SEND YOUR ASK:
we believe noel & liam/oasis' breakup was an incredibly complex situation comprised of decades of mutual micro- and macro-aggressions that finally came to an ultimate head, resulting in a separation that was painful for both of them. as far as we know there is no single grand reason they split up. we believe they have truly loved all their individual partners before and after their separation, and in varying ways and degrees love(d) each other. we are not #team either of them, as their relationship is far too tangled and intricate to choose sides. we do not subscribe to soap opera-level conspiracies ā we approach all speculation with awareness of the many nuances of what it is to be human (which, against all odds, they are). and finally, we do not know them or have any behind the scenes information that cannot be discovered through public research.
we get a lot of anons, and even though there are three of us running this blog we don't have time to get to all of them. we tend to prioritise ones that ask questions we can actually answer, suggest interesting ideas, or engage in good faith fandom fun. if we don't answer yours, it's probably not personal!
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heya scholars. earlier on twitter i saw someone repost what was ostensibly liam on instagram stories answering various fan questions, including one exchange that went -> "why are you so fucking gorgeous" "is that you noel"
id almost believe these were fake but when i googled around, i saw at least one article mentioning a few of his other answers (https://www.radiox [] .co.uk/artists/liam-gallagher/reveals-fat-white-family-best-bands-today-intrigue/). does anyone know if theres a place where these could be archived?? bc i find this hilarious actually
ooh, not sure! someone might have it screencapped somewhere if it's real.... it is definitely the sort of thing he'd say!
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remember how that one liamon-shipping anti ironically made such an iconic damonoel edit that hit so hard it revolutionized the world..... and by the world i mean my brain........ rip š«”
Gallagher, who's almost fully recovered from injuries suffered in an onstage assault Sept. 7 in Toronto, is also still planning to make a solo album but isn't sure where that will fit in the timetable, either. "I'm going to do one sooner or later -- hopefully sooner rather than later," he says. "I'm kind of hoping Liam might be arrested soon, and then I'll have time to see it through."
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Hello! Do you happen to know the dates (at least the years) when Noel said in a podcast/interview that he gave a star shaped tambourine to liam for his bday and when he tried to take us for fools saying he didn't give it to him?
1ļøā£ Rodney On The Roq (25/09/1994), around 18:30
2ļøā£ Matt Morgan Podcast 135 (06/07/2023) , around 2:02:13
I was there when you came to Hong Kong to play in 1989!
N: Oh were you? Was a shit gig, wasn't it?
It was great...
N: (cuts in) I don't bloody think so! From what I remember we were awful....but it's gonna be much worse tonight I think!
Oh why'd you say that?
N: See for yourself - you'd know.
I loved the first part of the <There and Then> video. I still remember how at the end of <The Swamp Song>, Liam walked on and shouted "Acquiesece" to the mic, while you striked the chords to kickstart the gig. It was unforgettable. Amazing.
N: Hmm that sure was a good show.
What do you think tonight's gig is gonna be like?
N: I think it'd be interesting! Our lead singer is in a funny mood now and we're probably gonna have a car crash tonite. I never try to predict anything. You know there's so much shit in life you're gonna be dragged down if you set your hopes too high, right? What I know is I'm gonna be brilliant, but I can't control the crowd to sing along, or clap or anything...I'll just make sure that I play well and sing well, that's what I'll try to do.
How do you prepare yourself for a show even when you know you're not at your best?
N: That's a difficult question...You don't really need to be in a good mood to play a gig you know. For me it's always do it first, and worry later, yeah.
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Sometimes I feel so inconfident on stage.
N: Why? What's the worst thing that can happen?
Like, your monitor goes quiet, and all sorts of things...
N: I don't use a monitor. Never. Just shut it down, man.
What, really?
N: I only need one when I need to sing, rest of the time I'd switch it off and just listen with me ears. I mean what's the worst thing that can happen? People might get up and leave, big deal!
Not able to hear anything from the monitor...that freaks me out.
N: So what? You should know what you're playing anyway. Even if I can't hear anything, I'd still know how to play a song! You're never gonna, and you should never, never try to play a song as it sounds on the record! I'm never bothered with with that.
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Any words of advice for people in a band?
N: Just don't think too damn much, you know? Just chill and enjoy it! Tell you what, I never give advices cos I don't take any. Just enjoy yourself....How old are u, son?
28.
N: 28, that's great, soon you'd be 50 and it's all gonna pass...so don't worry about anything.
Thanks for the advice!
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Where do you get your inspirations from?
N: Man, I dunno. It just comes. I was not trained to be a musician or lyricist or anything like that. You just pick up the guitar and it'd come. I don't know where that's from. It just happens.
What are your plans after this tour?
N: We aint got any to be honest. Apart from a long break. No plans whatsoever for the next record or for other people.
Which songs would you recommend? Out of <Dig Out Your Soul>?
N: The first one, <Bag it up>, <Waiting for the Rapture>, <Soldier On>.
What kind of music fans would you recommend these to?
N: I don't think like that. You should just get the sound right. It's to do with "What I do" and "Who I am" and not "Who YOU are". I think if I like something then someone else would probably agree it's good as well.
You mentioned in an interview that you liked this song <Magic Colours> by a 70s Hong Kong musician called Teddy Robins. It happens that <Dig Out Your Soul> is very psychedelic sounding as well. Did you get you inspirations from there somehow?
N: I got this record called <Love, Piece and Poetry> in a record shop in London which was supposed to be a 60s psychedelic record from Asia. I thought there might be some good stuff in there and that track, <Magic Colours>, it fxxking blew me away! A bit like Jimi Hendrix or something, probably one of the best thing I've ever heard! But no I didn't get my inspirations from there, at least I probably don't play guitar as good as he does.
Are you familiar with other Asian music?
N: No to be honest I don't know anything about the music here. I'd listen to stuff from the US, India, Germany, Sweden and France though.
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I got into Oasis since WSTMG, and I was crazy about it, singing <Don't look back in anger> with my twin brother all the time...
N: You have a twin brother? Is he in the same band as you?
No...
N: He was, wasn't he?? Kick him out!!
Now you used to be working class...
N: I still am.
...well our band is sort of from the working level as well. We're still struggling. Do you have any things to say to young people and musicians here, cos most young people would just spend their time playing video games and stuff...
N: That's what it's about these days isn't it? In my days, people were into music like people are into video games now. If they want to sit in front of a computer all day long...then they could try to make some music on the computer. In fact, the guitar is one of the most difficult thing you can learn in the world. It's much easier with a computer. I started playing the guitar becos I had nothing better to do. My life was really shit.
And it took me around 15 years to really learn how to play it well. Even now I'm still spending all my time learning things about the guitar...compared to that...video games are much, much easier.
You know it's a wonderful thing to be...with music. Whether you're just singing it or playing it...it's all brilliant. But it's hard to get other people into music though, you have to try it and see if you'd like it.
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So do you really not use a computer?
N: No I don't. Tell you what, there was this time I was at home and my missus went out, leaving the computer on in the kitchen. So she called me and asked me to shut it down for her and I said "alright". Then I went into the kitchen and I found out I didn't know how to bloody turn it off! So I just unplugged the thing from the socket, you know?! Then she came back and found out and was mad at me, saying how I was an idiot or something...But then you can live your life so so many years without using a computer, so I don't think I'd need one. I can't drive, can't swim, but I'm doing alright.
Don't you think the Internet can let you see more of the world?
N: Nah I'm not having that...What I mean is, I'd get up and go there if I want to be somewhere, you know what I mean?
Do you not use a computer to record demos either?
N: I don't do demos. I'd just play something and sing, keep it in my head, then go straight into the studio. Sometimes I think all this stuff on the Internet aren't really real, like you can't really know what Hong Kong is like with a single click. You have to be there to feel it. I think the kids might find it useful, how they can search stuff when they need it...but I come from a different time, I don't need to know how much does a tiger fxxking weight, how many nails an elephant's got or how many bricks was The Great Wall of China build with, you know? That's got nothing whatsoever with how I live my life now... but I know, kids are into that sort of stuff.
Noel Gallagher on Oasis, Amy Winehouse, James Blunt, everything
Cameron Adams
October 02, 2008 12:00am
AS Oasis' new album is released, Noel Gallager gives his take on all matters from James Bond to James Blunt. And he still thinks Liam's aā¦
Noel Gallagher is back on drugs.
Luckily these ones, unlike the mountains of chemicals he hoovered during the ā90s, come from a doctor. And not a dodgy rock and roll physician, an actual one.
A legally numbed Gallagher is nursing three broken ribs after a Canadian man pushed the Oasis guitarist off stage during a gig in Toronto last month.
The downside: all Oasis gigs since have been cancelled while Gallagher recovers. The upshot: camera phone footage from multiple fans have clocked up millions of You Tube hits.
āItās quite exciting being a genuine You Tube superstar,ā Gallagher says from his London home where heās dosed up on āpretty heavy painkillers.ā
āIām a bit brain dead,ā Gallagher notes of his prescription high. āSometimes I drift off and I donāt know what Iām talking about.ā
While he hasnāt watched the incident on You Tube, heās heard that depending on what angle the footage you watch was taken you can clearly see brother Liam Gallagher initially running away from the stage invader, then trying to punch him once heās being led away.
āHe got all brave once the security guards turned up,ā Noel, Liamās older brother notes. āThatās what he does.ā
Gallagher insists he has only vague memories of his You Tube moment.
āI remember being hit really hard. I didnāt see him come on stage or get led off, I just got hit.ā
The guitarist initially thought heād been stabbed ā the intruder had run from being in the rain to the backstage area then on stage ā leaving puddles of water on the stage where Gallagher wound up.
After he realised no knives were involved, Gallagher ignored medics' advice and continued playing for another 40 minutes.
āI had an almighty pain in my side. I was being silly, it got to the point where I went āF--- it, I canāt do thisā and got taken straight to hospital.ā
Gallagher canāt discuss the intruder in detail for legal reasons, but is happy to do some mild character assassination.
āHeās 47 and got three children, if you can believe that,ā Gallagher says.
āHeās obviously gone through a midlife crisis. I wouldnāt get in and analyse it too deeply, thatās for a lawyer to do. I donāt know why people do things like that.ā
However, donāt expect to see Oasis surrounded by men-mountains next time you see them live.
āWeāre not going to become one of these American bands with more security guards than musicians on stage, we donāt go in for that Madonna sh--. Weāve got enough security guards as it is. If theyād been doing their f---ing job properly instead of playing air guitar Iād be alright.ā
Broken ribs arenāt stopping Gallagher talking up Oasisā seventh album, Dig Out Your Soul.
Or not talking it up as the case may be. Heās already labelled lead single The Shock of the Lightning the albumās only obvious hit.
Thereās ragged rock tracks (Aināt Got Nothinā) recycled psychedelia (the acid-soaked Bag It Up), some swamp blues (Get Off Your High Horse Lady), an organic Chemical Brothers-style trancefest (Falling Down) and even a track minus any guitars at all ā To Be Where Thereās Life. Itās as experimental and loose as Oasis get, without losing the plot.
āWhen we were making it I thought there didnāt seem to be that many hit singles on there, or even songs that sound like singles, but thatās a good thing,ā Gallagher says.
āI wouldnāt plan to make an album like this every time, itās happily fallen in our laps by accident. In the grand scheme of things itās a pretty special Oasis record.ā
As with the last few Oasis albums Gallagherās songwriting dictatorship has given way to a musical democracy ā each member gets to write at least one track.
Liam Gallagherās Iām Outta Time is an album highlight. It is ā whoād have thought ā a ridiculously familiar (and surprisingly beautiful) Beatles throwback.
This dose of pre-Fab four one comes with a surprise addition - instead of just channelling John Lennon, theyāve actually sampled him, via a grab from a vintage interview.
āNot that youād notice it was him,ā Noel Gallagher says. āIt sounds like Winston Churchill. If youāre going to put John Lennon on a f---ing track turn it up I say. Itās kind of a bit neither here nor there for me. You canāt really hear what he says.ā
Noel gets his time to shine on Waiting for the Rapture, one of his vocal moments on the album.
āThe reason Liam doesnāt sing the songs I sing is that he canāt sing the falsetto bits,ā Noel says.
āHe doesnāt have the will or the capacity to get up to those notes. I like my singing. I used to sing out of necessity a few years ago because Liam wouldnāt or couldnāt. But now when I write batches of songs I think āAh, Iād like to sing thatā. My voice has developed at a very late stage, which is good because it means I havenāt spent 20 years f---ing it up.ā
Waiting for the Rapture is about his girlfriend Sara McDonald, not that Noel admits it. āYou canāt really write a full album about your missus. Sheāll start getting the wrong idea and start thinking I like her.ā
There are, however, no songs about their newborn son Donovan.
āSongs for children are utterly banned,ā he says. āIām not into that sh--.ā
Liam Gallagherās 2000 song Little James remains one of Oasisā creative lowpoints.
āWell, I canāt speak for my brother,ā Gallagher says. āBut for the other three of us theyāre banned.ā
Gallagherās enjoying singing more than ever before; even single-handedly promoting Oasisā best-of Stop the Clocks with a global solo tour last year.
If the eldest Gallagher has his way, Dig Out Your Soul will be the last Oasis album before they embark on the obligatory solo diversions.
āAfter this record Iām not sure what we do next as a band,ā he says. āSince Gem (Archer, guitar) and Andy (Bell, bass) joined weāve been leading up to this particular point, this record. If I had my way Iād like us all to do solo projects next time around. Itād be interesting for people who like Oasis to see how the four parts make up the whole.ā
Dig Out Your Soul arrives as all Oasis albums have ā the good old fashioned way. The only real concession to anything approaching technology is a Chemical Brothers remix of The Shock of the Lightning for the, er, clubs.
Those expecting online leaks or Radiohead style free downloads should look elsewhere.
āNo oneās getting anything free from me,ā Gallagher says. āIf they can find it out there on the internet and steal it good luck to them. But weāre not going to put it anybodyās f---ing pocket for free, f--- that.ā
Nor will you see Oasis measuring their carbon footprint, ala Radiohead, any time soon.
āGlobal problems are very easily solved by rockstars, arenāt they,ā Gallagher mocks.
āStarving people in Africa, letās do a gig, thatāll sort it out. Thereās war on the streets of Baghdad, letās do a gig. Global warming and carbon emissions ā letās have a concert. Itās f---ing bullsh--.
"The only way itās going to be solved is if the world powers get together and are serious about it. I really think itāll take an absolute global catastrophe for anyone to take it seriously, not just saving a few polar bears from dying. In the meantime Radiohead can get on their battery operated pushbikes as long as they like but theyāre pissing in the wind
āYou canāt blame rock stars for global warming when the Chinese, the Indian and the Americans have been pumping out sh-- into the atmosphere for the last 100 years,ā Gallagher continues.
āThatās just f---ing nonsense. You canāt put a load of rockstars up on a stage and expect to wipe out global poverty. Thatās ludicrous. Somebodyās doing a load of acid if they think thatās going to happen.ā
Also still in place is the internal feuding between the brothers Gallagher.
Liam has gone on record saying he ācanāt standā Wonderwall, still the bandās biggest hit. āEvery time I sing it I want to gag,ā Liam told Q Magazine.
āSee, this is one of the reasons I really f----ing dislike him, heās full of f---ing sh--,ā Noel says.
āHe tells the journalists of the world āI hate singing Wonderwallā. Yet we were rehearsing and I was saying āI canāt be ars-ed, Iām gonna drop it (Wonderwall) from the setā. Heās the one saying āNo no, weāve got to play it, weāve got to play itā.
āI read these interviews with him and I donāt know who the guy is whoās in these interviews, he seems really cool, because the guy Iāve been in a band with for the last 18 years is a f----ing knobhead.
"I donāt know where this schizophrenia comes from. Then he wonders why Iāve f----ing got no time for him.ā
Still, things could be worse ā it could be James Blunt.
Between albums Gallagher reportedly insisted he was selling his house in Ibiza after finding out Blunt had moved there. The story isnāt exactly true, but Gallagher knows it sounds good.
āIām sure heās just saying he lives in Ibiza for effect, Iāve had a house there for 10 years and I didnāt see him once,ā Gallagher says.
āI heard heās got a nightclub in his house, which is strange, because he doesnāt look like he could take a stiff cocktail. But I must say it did make me quite uncomfortable knowing I was there and he was up the road somewhere being sh--t.ā
NOEL ON ā¦
Amy Winehouse
āSheās got an undeniably great voice but thereās plenty of great singers in the world. It astonishes me, fame seems to hit those kind of people hard. They kind of pull down the shutters and become drug addicts because they canāt deal with it. But itās what theyāve been waiting for all their lives.
This should be her time. She should be ruling the world but sheās a slave to the gear. F--- her. Thereās no point wasting words on people like that. They have no respect for themselves so why should people have respect for them?ā
The new James Bond theme
āWe wrote a song, which will be on our next album now, that when I finished I thought āIt sounds like a James Bond theme tuneā. Not one of those ridiculous ballads, the actual theme tune. At the time they hadnāt decided who was going to sing the theme. So I sent it to Sony, the people who look after that kind of thing, and never heard anything back. And they got Alicia Keys to do it. I havenāt heard it but Iām sure itāll be f---ing dreadful. Jack Whiteās bits will be amazing, because he is, but itās an odd coupling.ā
Lars Ulrich using Noel as a role model to kick cocaine
āI f---ing love that guy. All these heavy metal characters you meet, like him and (Marilyn) Manson they are, with the best will in the world, ludicrous people. I like that Enter Sandman tune and Nothing Really Matters, but I donāt own any of the records. That doesnāt dilute what I think of them as fellas. I like a few of Mansonās tunes but itās not my bag. Hip hopās not my bag but I donāt deny its right to exist.ā
Coldplay
āI like Coldplay. Iām not in a band full of Coldplay fans, thereās only me. I donāt speak about it with the other boys. I like Coldplay and U2, everyone in Oasis f---ing hates them. I think theyāre a bit insecure Coldplay and U2 sell more records than we do. I love Violet Hill. I like them, I wonāt f---ing deny it. I struggle a bit with Coldplay. You play someone a song and go ālisten man it sounds like the Beatles, itās f---ng greatā and then the next one sounds like Annie Lennox, so itās like āOK, well that oneās a bit sh--ā. I like Chris Martin. I think heās a really great songwriter. He fascinates me, heās f---ing proper posh. I havenāt met his wife. I somehow donāt think Iād be her cup of tea. Iād like to meet her, itās Gwyneth Paltrow for f---ās sake, but I guess she wouldnāt like my profanities. I have a habit of swearing a lot.ā
Kaiser Chiefs
āThereās been a feud between us and them, but in the case of the Kaiser Chiefs the little fat singer, he started it. Itās not important what he said, and itās a shame one has to get involved in this kind of thing but you canāt let these fat idiots get away with it.ā
Bloc Party
āTheyāre a bunch of middle class kids trying to rebel about against mum and dad. They sit on top of an apex of sh--.ā
Keane
āI feel sorry for Keane. No matter how hard they try theyāll always be squares. Even if one of them started injecting heroin into onto his (Noel uses potentially offensive euphemism for the male member) people would go āYeah but your dad was a vicar, good nightā.
Turning 40
āIt doesnāt bother me. Iāve always felt older than I am. When I was 30 I felt 40. I feel f---ing 65 with three broken ribs. Youāll find people who rib you about their age are petrified about getting old. It doesnāt bother me. I guess because Iāve never traded on my good looks like Liam.
To me itās not about the haircut or jawline or belly. Iām known for my songs, I can do that at any age. If Iām being honest everyone would like to be 20 years younger but youāve got to be comfortable with it. Liamās been dying his hair for a while. And he wears make up. Seriously. Iāve seen him in eyeliner at parties, the Clockwork orange. And he knows about his moisturizer. I think heās trying to head off old age but itāll catch him.ā
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noel gallagher: i'm sooo tiny and skinny i literally have the tiniest waist, size 28 btw, i can't find ANY clothes that fit me properly because i'm so minuscule you could literally wrap your entire hand around my skinny little thigh it's that tiny and if you picked me up by the waist, size 28 in case i haven't mentioned it already, you'd see i hardly weigh anything at all because i'm so skinny and tiny and small