someday we'll bully jackie into writing fic too and link it here <3
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the gallaghercest primer by @snickfic
oasis + gallagher timeline by @storyshark2005
the oasis/gcest ep of the talkin' fanfic podcast (also by @storyshark2005)
↳ and its companion ep, an interview with @jeevey
excellent meta on the causes of the 2008/9 relationship breakdown
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matt morgan podcast eps directory
songs liam & noel have written about each other (?)
our fic recs tag
some gig recs
resources for finding gigs to watch
our overview of oasis books
a few documentary recs
some liam interview recs (will we ever do one for noel? is that physically even possible? who can say...)
archive of print press links by @sssaaassshhh
trill's gdrive of random bootleg oasis tunes
bal's found oral history of the infamous Whisky A Go Go gig
(pre)meditation - noello going solo found poem thingy
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#print archive stuff is... exactly what it sounds like; here is a list of resources we use to fill that tag
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Chatting about forming the band to XFM's John Kennedy, Noel said: "We used to share a room, he used to sit and watch me play acoustic guitar. Not once did he join in."
"There was no inkling, not even a twinkling in the eye or a clearing of the throat. To get rid of him I'd have to lend him a fiver. I'd sit there playing the guitar, i'd say 'Have you got nothing better to do?' He'd say 'Lend us a fiver and I'll go out.' It carried on like that for the next twenty years!"
Noel: there's a whole cd bootleg you can get called "The Whole Story" and there's about twelve or thirteen songs before the original demo that we gave to McGee, "Colour my life" being one of them (...) But "Take Me" was the one that Liam and Bonehead wrote, which is a really, really, really good tune, if it was done properly, but I don't know whether Bonehead would agree. Well, Liam's always hated that song, but I love it."
Q: Was it strange the first time you heard Liam singing one of your songs?
Andy: It was awesome. I think he’s better than Lennon, Elvis, or anyone else. And he knows a good pair of shoes when he sees one.
— Andy Bell interview for Creation Records, June 2001
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I THOUGHT I'd heard every tale of showbiz excess ... Noel Gallagher and his wife Meg Mathews have hired a maid - to look after their goldfish. The couple's hectic lives make it impossible for them to devote time to Lennon and McCartney, who live in an antique bowl in Noel's Bucks mansion. So rather than neglect their aquatic pals they pay a helper $200 a week to tend them. "Noel's very fond of the fish," my source tells me. "He finds them relaxing. But since he and Meg are rarely at home they decided pay someone to visit them every day and make sure they're all right." - mirror.co.uk
—theoasis.co.uk: News November 1999 | archive captured January 10th 2001
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Below the cut is the Noel-half of an incredibly candid interview the brothers gave in July 2000, in the midst of their mid-tour split. This was originally transcribed by a fellow named Harry Hotspur, one of the hard-working denizens of the Oasis usenet forum (such were the lengths fans went to before they could screenshot and share images easily).
I am posting the text here, as I have not found the same article readily available elsewhere online, and it's an incredible read. The interviewer essentially acts as a therapist, gently countering the more immediate, caustic replies to get at the emotional heart of matters. Noel in particular is more raw than usual.
Liam's half here.
July 1
Oasis pull a show at Roskilde Festival in Denmark, hours after nine fans are killed. Oasis's manager, Marcus Russell, meets police who reveal that they don't yet know why people died and haven't made any subsequent security changes. The organisers claim Oasis and Pet Shop Boys (who also cancel) are disrespecting the dead. 'Basically, they were asking for the band to go onstage and have Oasis fans dancing on people's graves,' Noel tells me later.
July 2
The Irish Sunday Mirror carries a story quoting Noel saying of Cork band The Frank And Walters, 'Without them I'd be on a building site in Manchester today.' Two days on, Noel shakes his head. 'I couldn't name a song by them,' he says.
July 4
Noel Gallagher (33) has been a very lazy Manc lately. After walking out in May, he holidayed at his Ibiza getaway before returning to his
Buckinghamshire pad to watch, and enjoy, Euro 2000. We meet in his farmhouse recording studio, surrounded by 37 guitars. Noel is relaxed, bright, friendly, slightly shy, and is pleased to learn from our
photographer that Marylin Manson likes 'Be Here Now'. Then, for over an hour, he sits and chats about football, Inspiral Carpets and, of course, Liam.
NOEL
Have you spoken to the band?
[Brightly] I haven't, no. I spoke to Marcus [Oasis's manager]. Everybody's on good form, apparently.
Have you read the gig reviews?
[Laughs] I have, yeah. It's ironic. We never got a good review for the
first six months of the tour, and as soon as I leave it's like the greatest
rock 'n' roll band ever!
Why do you reckon that is?
I have to assume people just don't like me! I mean, the five guys in the group are all brilliant musicians and they're playing brilliant songs, so why wouldn't it be good?
When I was reviewing the new album I did feel the easiest way to write it would be to slag it off...
[Nods] Mmm.
These days if you say it's actually quite good, you're laying yourself open. But I reckon 'Gas Panic' is one of the best songs you've written.
Well, yeah. I think people expect a bit much. I don't think people think
it's a bad album, it's just not this earth-shattering experience. But is
any band that important after five albums? What I find... not upsetting, but annoying is, like, we've got a single out yesterday. Now, on Monday morning people'll start writing about how it failed to get to Number One, or the top five. But nobody writes how Travis have failed to get to Number One. ['Sunday Morning Call' enters the charts at number four.]
I suppose people expect Oasis to be a big-selling band.
I know, but there has to be a dramatic fucking 'Bumph! It's gonna change now!' There can't be just a gradual change over six months. Someone's gotta stand up and say 'Fuck, I'm not doin' it any more.'
But when Blur came out with the 'Blur' album after 'The Great Escape', there was a bit of 'Ooh, it's not doing well'. Then everyone was like 'Who cares?'
I fuckin' envy them in a way, because we couldn't go off and make a lo-fi, indie-jungle record. Blur can do that. And Primal Scream can constantly reinvent themselves and The Beta Band can, because they're not considered seminal fuckin' artists. Y'know, we've gotta be constantly in the top five and records have gotta sell millions and tours have gotta be bigger than the last... And I don't wanna make fuckin' avant-garde records. I like playing the guitar. I like being a rock 'n' roll band. But people accuse you of not progressing. Then if you did change they'd say 'What are you doing making Krautrock records?'
Does it freak you out reading these good gig reviews?
[Genuinely] No, fuck, no.
How are you in your head?
[Hesitant] I'm really... I'm never happy touring at the best of times.
Y'know, with me being the spokesman, I get up at ten and before the
soundcheck at 5pm I'll have done seven interviews, generally with an
interpreter, answering the same questions. The hour and a half on stage is brilliant, but it's just all the bullshit that surrounds it.
Can't you tour on your own terms?
Yeah, but you've gotta have the other five people in the band on the same wavelength. I can't be bothered with the fuckin' rock 'n' rollness of it all. That's not me any more. Whereas everyone else is having the time of their lives.
Liam thinks you expected them to follow you home.
[Surprised] No, not at all. Did I fuck.
Because it was all right in Japan and America...
It was brilliant, but y'know, he's made a big deal about this hypothetical fuckin' solo career that I'm supposed to be starting. Which is all bollocks. [I only meant] one album of maybe like acousticy, folky stuff in between Oasis records, as a side-project. Now I'm not even sure I can be arsed. It's like, if it's gonna cause that much fuckin' trouble, then I can't be bothered.
If you were a punter, how would you feel seeing Oasis without you?
Well in my defence if anybody wanted their money back they could've seen the promoter. As far as I'm aware, everybody turned up. I mean, Oasis was always about Liam Gallagher singing my songs. I think everybody else is totally interchangeable, but out of respect for the British fans I've decided I'm gonna do these gigs and then I'm gonna very, very long holiday. And then I'm gonna decide what I wanna do.
Have you had it up to here with Liam?
Oh, I've been up to there with Liam since...
I met him for the first time last week. He was pretty much what I expected. Intense, well-meaning, but...
[Vehemently] The bottom line is, if Liam's fuckin' sober he's great. But
once he's pissed he likes nothing better than to sit in a room and argue. Y'know: 'I can drink more than you can drink.', 'My Dad's bigger than your Dad.' I mean there's something about me that makes him unhappy, and if I make him that unhappy then I'll y'know...
But he looks up to you, he adores you.
[Passionate] Yeah, I adore him as well. But not to the point where I'll sit and be insulted all night, in front of a load of people. I'm not having that off anyone.
Leaving him to it could be the best thing for Oasis. Problem is, he needs to understand your reasons.
Well, I'm quite proud of the fact that he's carried on. Y'see, Liam desperately wants to be in charge, and as far as I'm concerned now he is in charge. He needs to prove summat to himself, that he can be the man. But I'm sick of being the endless guest on 'The Jerry Springer Show', y'know, 'And our next two guests are two brothers from Manchester...' It's like, 'Aww fuck off, man, I can't be arsed.' But you know, Liam's still in his twenties and he's still living the life of a rock star.
But you've got five years on him.
Yeah. But I still don't understand him or the reasons why he's always going off at me. Two or three years ago I'd sit down and try and get inside his head. Now I can't be fuckin' bothered. Until I can see a change in him, what's the fuckin' point? Because ultimately the music suffers. You wanna try being in a recording studio with him...
He doesn't really understand where you're coming from. He said he tried to apologise.
Yeah, but he's been apologising for six years. And it's not just things about me, he's said some things that are out of order. Things that you
shouldn't even think, let alone say in front of people who are basically
total strangers. It's easy to say you're sorry and it's a different thing
meaning it. So he's apologised, big fuckin' deal. Until the next time. But this time there isn't gonna be a next time, because I've just about had enough of him. And y'know, you're in a hotel room in Paris and you think: Well, I've got six weeks left in Europe with this twat, or I've got a house in Ibiza with its own beach. Hmm. This is not a difficult decision to make.
Is there a chance there might not be a next album?
Well, I've written two songs - that doesn't even constitute a single. And they were songs I'd written maybe 18 months ago. So I've gone 18 months without writing anything. And every time I pick up me guitar or try and write some words, it's just not doing it for me. As I get older I feel like I need a lot more time. Now you try and speak to Liam, it's always, 'Right, when are we going in the studio?' And I'm like, 'Well, I haven't written any songs.' 'Well, when are you gonna write some songs? I'm not fuckin' having another year off.' And I'm like, 'You can't force these things. If it takes me five years to write an album, then you're gonna have to sit on your arse for five years. Unless *you* go and write a bunch of fuckin' songs.'
I reckon he feels awkward around you.
Yeah, well, we'd be sat on a tour bus and we'd put on a tape and summat'll come on and he'll go 'Who's this?' and you go 'Oh, it's Superstar'. And he'll go [aggressively] 'Fuck, it's shit'. [Calmly] 'Fair enough.' [Aggressively] 'Who the fuck are they? So you're into these, are ya?' It's like 'Well, hang on a minute, it's only a fuckin' song. I *like* the song. Leave it, man.' Before you know it there's a full-scale argument...
But he values your opinion.
Yeah, but why does he have to do that? I don't know. [Sighs] I was
speaking to me Mam about it... It's like he can't accept the fact that
maybe the band is not the most important thing in my life any more. When I had two years off, I came back and it was like, 'I'm married, I've got a kid now.' And watching my little girl grow up and go to school is more important than watching the band develop. He's gotta get his head round that before we can go any further.
Plus it sounds like he's got shit going on with Patsy.
Well that again, y'know. Everybody in the band has personal problems, but you should never bring them into the studio or on tour.
C'mon, though: if your marriage was breaking up, it'd be hard for it not to affect you.
I'm sure. [Pauses] I'm sure. But it's nobody else's fault. I mean, I
haven't got the answers to his problems. Not at all. But Liam seems to think that because we're not as big as we were five or six years ago, somebody has to have the answers. Y'know: 'What are the reasons we don't sell ten million albums any more?' I really don't know. If I knew I'd put it right.
Liam thinks you carry the burden of the band and he's saying he could take more off you.
[Deep breath] Er, it's not that it's a burden, it's just that it's always
been like this for me. Liam started doing 50 per cent more interviews on this tour, but it still hasn't taken any workload off me. When we started this tour it was like, we haven't put a record out or played for three years, half the band had gone, there was new members, we were fuckin' on the way to Japan and someone's decided C4 are gonna do an on-the-road documentary, we've got all the journalists in the same hotel. And this is the first *day*. You couldn't go to the bar without [mimes putting a dictaphone out] 'Can I have a word about this?' And then of course bright spark has to go and say he's gonna break Robbie Williams's nose before we even get on the plane.
That Robbie - Liam thing was a bit silly.
It was just pathetic. I was sat watching CNN in a hotel in Japan and they had a report from the BRITS and none of it was about who'd won. And then you see fucking Robbie Williams challenging Liam to a fight. And I'm sat there eating my breakfast going 'This is not real, this is not happening'. But then you pass Liam in the foyer and he's going 'Yeah, I'm gonna break his fuckin' legs when I see him'. It's like 'Will you shut the fuck up, man?'
Beckham and Posh have kind of taken over from you and Liam as the tabloids' most wanted. Do you have any sympathy for them?
Er, I've got sympathy for him, 'cause he just seems to be going along with it. I mean, if she wasn't married to him, who's she? Just one of the Spice Girls who can't sing. Whereas he's the best fucking footballer we've got in the country. I mean, you know that documentary they did and she was interviewing him? How can you interview you husband on TV? It's sick. I feel sorry for him, but... [laughs] Fuck him, he's a dirty red anyway!
How do you think things will be with Liam in Dublin?
The manager phoned me last week and said him and Alan [White, drummer] was saying 'Look, we want a meeting before you do these gigs' and I was going 'Well fine, all right'. And of course, who didn't turn up? So that shows how much it means to him. They think it's gonna be weird, but it's not gonna be weird for me, I don't hate anyone, I haven't fallen out with anyone. It's just I didn't wanna be on the fucking road with him.
Why don't you just play big gigs in capitals where you don't necessarily have to stay in the same hotel, don't have to do any press... ? It's almost like you take on too much.
Well, that's what I'm saying. We have to sit down at the end of this tour and I've gotta have a big fuckin' think about where we're going and how we're gonna get there. I couldn't just sit down now and go 'If we do this, if we do that'. But I know what I'm not gonna do is just fuckin' give up making music, just fuckin' sit at home and become a dad. I want my kids to grow up and see me in action, not watch me on some archive footage from fuckin' Knebworth.
Do you think there's a possibility that you're just not gonna bother with Oasis?
Of course, yeah. But we'll see what happens.
You're more pissed off with it than I thought.
I'm not thinking too much about anything at the moment, just about getting these gigs done and hopefully them being received really well. Then after that... See, I've always felt your management or your label never give you enough time. When I was younger I could sit in a room and knock off three songs a day, like 'Some Might Say' and 'Whatever' and a bunch of B-sides. But y'know, I'm not 26 any more. People think: Aw, give him two weeks and he'll write another album. It's not like that.
Is it pressure?
No, it's just that when I was 26 the most important thing in my entire life was the group and writing songs. But now it's not. I've devoted enough of my time to Oasis. I've given enough, so now I wanna take a bit back. But I never said I was gonna do a solo album and leave the fuckin' band. I just wanna do little things that make it interesting for me. But I've no intention of leaving the band.
Is Liam's drinking the big...
[Quickly] For me it is, yeah.
He said: 'I just drink till I fall asleep.'
Well that's fine, but it's the bit before he falls asleep which is a fuckin'... Everybody else finds it really funny, but when you're sat on the end of it. He gets *that far away* from your face, y'know, just going like [incoherently] 'Well fuckin', where the fuckin' cunt this'. It makes me tired. It gets me down, But he knows that, and the more it gets me down, the more he does it.
It'd be good if you two could sort it out.
Listen. Every time we fall out it's always this big fuckin' dramatic thing. To me it's just another argument, man. It'll sort itself out. It's not as if we're never gonna see each other again. Let's put it this way: if I wasn't related to him, I'd have sacked him fuckin' four years ago. But it's not.. [Quietly] It's deeper than all that.
Perhaps Wembley will be the turning point. That little bit of friction
could be the thing that makes it...
Y'know, the last gig I did with the band was in Madrid and it was one of the best gigs I've done for years. What I'm really looking forward to is getting onstage at Reading. Because we've gotta follow Primal Scream. And if you can't summon up enough enthusiasm to say, 'Right, well, we've gotta be better than them.' Y'know, I'm looking forward to going on after them. Then we'll see how good we are.
July 5
Despite Noel's revelation otherwise, NME claim they've heard three
new tracks.
July 6
Liam insists a new Oasis album is written, to be released in
January.
July 7
With Liam in Dublin, Patsy Kensit leaves her and Liam's Primrose
Hill house. In broad daylight. In front of reporters. Wearing a lovely
dress. 'I'm actually quite relieved,' she tells 'London Tonight'.
July 8
'Patsy Legsit' screams the Daily Star, with the Mirror's cover
carrying news of Patsy's new fella. Meanwhile, I'm off to Dublin to see
Noel and Liam's reunion gig. The route to the 40,000 sell-out Lansdowne Road show is littered with leery, beery men singing and pissing. Naturally, when Liam, the Patron Saint of Laddism, skulks onstage, the crowd go barmy. And although, annoyingly, most of the sound blows into the gusty Dublin night, it's clear Oasis still rock - even if the old stuff does rock most. Liam's voice is as snarlingly majestic as ever, his swagger as cocky. And Noel seems genuinely touched by the spine-tingling crowd reaction to 'Don't Look Back In Anger'. 'We ain't splitting up,' growls Liam before the brotherly 'Aquiesce', with its chorus of 'Because we need each other', after
which the brothers shake hands. Later, as they say goodnight to the Dublin masses, Noel tells them, 'We'll see you next time.' A truce, it seems, has been called.
July 9
The Irish Sunday People's front page reveals 'Liam's Dublin booze binge'. Apparently, he knocked back 15 pints of Guinness in his hotel.
Meanwhile, Noel, we're told, arrived on a different flight and stayed in a different hotel. A truce then, but not a full-on peace accord.
July 10
'Rock chick to wreck chick' says the Sun, splashing pictures of
Pasty and her new man over two pages. Thankfully, Liam is keeping 'a dignified silence'.
And there you have it. Twelve days in the weird, wonderful, ever-changing, tabloid scrutinised lives of Noel and Liam Gallagher. If Liam can keep his gob shut, they're well poised to reclaim some of their former glories. And if he doesn't, Noel seems likely to walk away. But whatever happens, you can be sure the world will be watching. No wonder they called their label Big Brother.
[Note by us: the infamous Wembley gig was less than two weeks later.]
Below the cut is the Liam-half of an incredibly candid interview the brothers gave in July 2000, in the midst of their mid-tour split. This was originally transcribed by a fellow named Harry Hotspur, one of the hard-working denizens of the Oasis usenet forum (such were the lengths fans went to before they could screenshot and share images easily).
I am posting the text here, as I have not found the same article readily available elsewhere online, and it's an incredible read. The interviewer essentially acts as a therapist, gently countering the more immediate, caustic replies to get at the emotional heart of matters.
Noel's half here.
The Brothers Grim
What with Noel walking off their tour, Liam's marriage crumbling and the new album under-performing, things haven't been going so well for Oasis recently.
In these exclusive, excoriating interviews, the Gallagher brothers talk more frankly than ever before, and admit that if they're not able to sort out their current batch of problems, the end may well be nigh...
LIAM
June 29 Liam Gallagher (27) has been a very busy Manc lately. First, his brother walked out on Oasis's current world tour, after another Bust Up(TM). Then it became clear that Liam's Stormy Marriage(TM) to Patsy 'who's next?' Kensit was reaching its sad but inevitable end. To make matters worse, Liam was followed to this afternoon's north London photo shoot by paparazzi, and he's got hay fever. Unsurprisingly, although likeable, he's tired, serious and a little stressed. After Liam has posed for photos (his Elvis 'Taking Care Of Business' patch prominent), we sit for a chat.
How's the tour going?
Going good, y'know. Considering Noel's not there.
Does it feel different?
Totally. It's just more punky. Not as professional. Just up and running,
banging it out, instead of being a bit... dunno. I think we got a bit too
slick.
Would you mind Noel not being there if you were a fan?
[Witheringly] Yeah. He writes the songs, you wanna see him there, don't you? We've just gotta sort it out. He's gotta realise that... we've argued before, and we'll argue again. I just wanna be in a band. I don't wanna hear anything about solo albums.
You were getting on pretty well, weren't you?
Yeah, we had been. It's just solo stuff keeps popping up, and I don't like it. It's no good for the band and it's no good for me.
Have you been in touch?
I rang him and he told me to fuck off, so I left it at that. I'll meet him
in Dublin the day before the gig and we'll have to have it out there. But we're not splitting up. Even though everyone's saying we should. This is what we do. We've got loads of new songs. There's an album ready to go.
Do you understand why Noel left?
Yeah, 'cause we were arguing. Y'know, he said things to me, I said things to him. Like you do. And that was it. I just said, 'I don't wanna hear about solo albums, you're not putting me on a fucking shelf for a year.'
Why do you think he wants to do solo stuff?
I haven't got a clue. People are saying it's 'cause he's got these songs
that aren't Oasis. But you make them Oasis, don't ya?
Do you feel there are more eyes on you on stage now?
Nah, 'cause it's a band. Obviously people are into the two brothers thing, but it's not Noel's band, it's not my band. It'd be good if we all worked together instead of Noel just writing things. I think it's time for *us* now, if we're gonna fuckin', y'know, survive.
It must be hard for him, though, having never written with any of you before. Maybe he's threatened by the idea.
I'm sure he is, but there shouldn't be no threat, it's only for the good of the band. He carries the weight of Oasis on his fuckin' shoulders too much. And you can tell he does, in his writing and in everything. It's like 'share it out'. I'm willing to fuckin' take a chance.
So it's not gonna be a problem getting back with him now?
[Derisively] Nah. We've had arguments before. We're all big boys, we know what we've gotta do. And we were never fucking that close anyway.
How was it through Japan and America?
Japan and America was great. It was just, we were in Barcelona and Alan had pulled a gig 'cause of his hand and we were sat about in the dressing room drinking. It was just a pissed-up fucking argument. And then we had a fight. And he won, I'll give him that. And he got off and I stayed the night in Barcelona and he went to Paris and I met him again - I was still pissed up - in the hotel in Paris and we had another little ding-dong and that's it.
Do you think...
[Interrupts] But I'm sure he thought we'd come home after him. But I
thought: Well, fuck that, there's no point. I'm not gonna be able to get in my house, with the press. And once I'm in, I'm not gonna be able to get out. And I'm not living like that any more. Fuck it. So I thought: We'll have a crack. It was the first time we'd ever worked together as a fuckin' band. And it felt nice. And it's a shame he wasn't there.
Who should be apologising?
Well, I've apologised, I'm man enough to apologise and I'm man enough to say I was wrong.
So you were out of order?
[Passionately] I was out of order and he was out of order. We were both totally out of order. We've just gotta fuckin'... [Quietly] I dunno. Y'know, we're always gonna argue.
Are you enjoying life?
[Hesitates] Yeah, it's good, I can't complain. No one's dead, are they?
I've got a beautiful baby and I'm buzzing off him. Shit's not right at home with me missus, but that'll get sorted. Y'know, there's no point dwelling on it.
How's London life?
I'm moving, man. Gonna go to the country for a bit.
You're selling the house, aren't you?
Yeah. D'ya wanna buy it?
I wish I could afford it. £1.5 million...
More than that, mate. Two point fucking eight. [It's later reported that the house has been sold for £2.5m.]
What about the whole drink and drugs thing?
No drugs, man. I've had enough. For the time being. I've not given up,
but [yawns] I just can't be bothered. Got too much shit going on in my life to be snorting gear. I've got a kid to look after, I've gotta be strong. But I like a pint.
What do you drink?
Anything.
You're not giving that up then?
You can't give up fuckin' booze, man. A couple of pints is okay. And I
have a lot of pints, I can drink for England, but you can only drink so much before you're asleep.
You don't think you've ever had a problem with drinking?
I don't think so. No. I just like to drink. I could give it up like that,
but who am I giving it up for? For some other cunt? If you don't wanna drink, then don't drink. If you wanna do summat, do it.
Yeah, but if you're getting reliant...
No. I drink 'cause I want to. Not because I need to. It's like, if some
shit goes on I don't go 'Oh fuck, I need a drink'. There's no booze in my house. If I was a big heavy fucking drinker, which all these idiots think I am, there'd be beer in my house. It's full of water, my house, and the only time I have a drink is when I go to the pub.
Are people saying you shouldn't?
I dunno. Our kid reckons I shouldn't drink. Y'know, I reckon... There's a
lot of things he shouldn't do.
Isn't he looking out for you? I mean, do you love each other?
I adore him. And if anyone bad-mouthed him I'd rip their fuckin' head off. And he'd do the same for me. It's a love - hate relationship. I wanna be him. He wants to be me. Y'know, he wants to be a singer and I want to be a songwriter.
What about your kid? How's he?
He's rocking. He's starting to crawl. He growls. He just goes 'grrrr'.
He don't go 'ga ga goo goo'.
You like the current album?
I think it's great.
And it's sold 500,000 copies here.
That's a lot of records. But I don't give a fuck. You can't go 'Right,
we're gonna write a record and it's gonna sell *that* amount.' It goes
where it goes.
The first Stone Roses album sold less than 500,000.
And that's great.
Yeah, and Johnny Hates Jazz sold more. And who remembers Johnny Hates Jazz?
You. You've just mentioned them. You had them on before you came out! And I tell you fuckin' what, fair play to him 'cause I hate jazz an' all.
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