still not a callout blog. literally just reblogs.

SO! After the post that ghostpunx submitted I got some info that makes it look kinda bad and like a cheap callout .

http://mushbun.tumblr.com/post/149538676764/tinymush-violetdiscourse-tinymush

^^^ here is tinymush telling violet and dcgoth to leave her alone!

http://mushbun.tumblr.com/post/149593350069/that-bitch-is-obsessed-with-you-all-of-a-sudden

^^^ here’s violet still ignoring tinymush’s request to leave her alone!

http://mushbun.tumblr.com/post/149488377284/hi-did-you-ever-get-those-receipts-on-tinymush-i http://mushbun.tumblr.com/post/149488387239/hi-did-you-ever-get-those-receipts-on-tinymush-i

^^^ here is tiny mush explaining to violet and dcgoth her issues! Which they did not respond to

http://mushbun.tumblr.com/post/149488428924/tinymush-discoursegoth-you-asked-me-stop

dcgoth acknowledging that she asked him multiple times to leave her alone, but coming back to her blog and grabbing out of context screenshots (the post where she say its funny he never reblogged the link to /tagged/discoursegoth was from hours before she told him, yet again, to stop talking to her and she made it to point out that he was continuously, selectively reblogging and screenshotting her blog to paint a picture of the argument that didnt actually exist)

to clarify, the first screenshot there is from after she made the post thats in the second screenshot

http://mushbun.tumblr.com/post/149488434614/tinymush-discoursegoth-my-main-issue-with

^^^another post with no response

http://mushbun.tumblr.com/post/149488510614/slightly-more-organized-callout

this is him saying she has iffy politics even tho she has defended herself and also has stated she is not a terf or a supporter of their ideology

http://mushbun.tumblr.com/post/149488481354/tinymush-discoursegoth-tinymush

^^^^ selective screenshotting, no response to tinymush’s rebuttals

http://mushbun.tumblr.com/post/149488689204/tinymush-starbccks-cornerstorebitch

^^^^Confrontation of starbccks who sexually harassed a minor ( even if she was a terf adults have boundaries they cannot cross) and dcgoth trying to use it to say she supports terfs

http://tinymush.tumblr.com/post/149546880564/heymom-violetdiscourse-discoursegoth-ok

^^^^more selective screenshotting

All in all here’s my two cents on this. This is messy. And I think both people might have done some things wrong but dcgoth/ghstpunx honestly you seem like…. Kind of the bad guy here

TINYMUSH IS OFF THE LIST AND DCGOTH WILL NOT BE ON IT

but this is not okay.

hey so tinymush and her friend have been harassing me and encouraging others to do so for a solid few days now. They leaked my main and made a callout blog (the link) about me, and are trying to say that a blog full of “receipts” on me isn’t a callout blog. if you go to it you can clearly see that even the “receipts” they have on me. They’ve also been treating violetdiscourse horribly ever since they defended me (they had every right to since the original issue involved them)

FOR CONTEXT:

basically a white terf threatened my black friend (violet) with graphic violence. I called her a white b**** which as a male aligned person I should have never done & have since apologized multiple times for.

Tinymush got really upset about this and after commenting on one of my posts (I don’t remember which one) vagued about me and I responded with “@ me next time”. We argued a bit and eventually mush told everyone I harassed her because I kept contacting her after she gave EXPLICIT INSTRUCTIONS to tell me to stop. In reality, the “explicit” instructions were her ending a post with “lol bye” which I thought to be sarcastic.

no ones words are being twisted when im reblogging full conversations as is, and if you truly think you did nothing wrong then it should be a good and convenient thing that this sideblog is here.

v and d have proven to be unable to leave my name alone (granted, mostly d) and i dont want anyone who wants answers to be unable to find them. i think the conversations i just reblogged highlight the unreliability of their sides of the story very well, and that is the largest reason ive decided to include them here.

i dont want v or d to receive hate or harassment, and i dont want anything here to be used in any callouts they might receive in the future.

he blocked me so I can’t reblog this post, otherwise I would bc I prefer to have the full, easily read thing available. Anyway.

1.) you literally did harass me. I asked you explicitly multiple times to leave me alone and you did not even come kind of close until my friends stepped in.

2.) I posted one vague abt u on my main, and I did not give anyone any way to ID you. You responded to it publicly on a discourse blog and did not leave me alone despite my being very clear about not wanting to speak to you the entire time.

3.) after we stopped interacting 2/3 weeks ago, I defended a minor 3 days ago bc a 22 yr old was giving them sexual insults. You popped up and spread around that I had “iffy politics” and was known to defend terfs despite you having only ever seen me interact in sj stuff once.

I mean…. It’s literally exactly what you did to me? so why is it okay to spread my personal info and then interact w me after I’ve explicitly told you not to. Why is it okay to screenshot a minors blog and not censor anything? Why is it okay to ignore every argument any of us have come up with that doesn’t make u look good.

*oh my god you guys are sooooo mean such mean internet bullies im soooo sick* even though you and violet harassed tiny for days which was ok apparently :’)

*goes on screenshot my blog a day later bc youre still seeewww scared n omg internet bullies wahhh!!!!* 

like shut the fuck up you little creep and stay off of my blog its ridiculous that a day later i had someone messaging me telling me you wrote about me like suck it up you fucking loser sorry you and violet were caught in a lie lmao

I wouldn’t call this harassment because I never asked them to leave me alone, but their tone is very icky and I don’t like it at all. Like I’m gonna let them have their fun but boy oh boy is this exhausting.

so i make a (badly worded) anti terf post and of course, some white demon attacks me for it. i defend myself, she attacks back, and my dear friend @discoursegoth steps in and calls her out, as he should. what he did wrong was use a gendered slur against said terf, and then take a bit too long to say sorry, as well as bother you a little bit. he did wrong and i told you that explicitly.

what you did wrong, @mushbun, was see zero fucking problem with a white person threatening to beat up a black trans person and only jump in when @discoursegoth slips up and calls said white demon a bitch. and then you borderline make fun of him not being able to process what you said to him (ie: how on earth is “lol, bye” code for “i feel uncomfortable, please never talk to me again”???), and then you tell me that i approve of harassment (which is really fucking funny because i’ve been harassed about twice on this particular blog, lol, so i know what harassment is, and asking someone not to vague about you isn’t harassment but what tf ever, honey), and THEN you make a receipts blog dedicated to us! and you see zero problem with that??? it reeks of anti-blackness as well as quite a bit of ableism, and i don’t enjoy that shit.

funny how you didn’t once call out the person who threatened to beat me bloody, but calling a woman a bitch once means that @discoursegoth deserves a whole blog dedicated to him. and me not immediately bowing down to your Almighty Word means that your receipts blog is for me too. like this is really transparent and don’t act like it isn’t.

Since you’re so knowledgeable on arguing with TERFs you’re aware of how someone on the internet educating them on their gross ideals gets you nowhere. They do not listen, and they’ll probably send more TERF’s after you. It’s not tinymushes job to go after TERFs that wanna be hateful on the internet. All of the posts you’ve made are CLEARLY biased.

Tinymush’s blog isn’t a receipts blog, it’s to declutter their main. Even if it is a receipts blog they’re allowed to keep an account of everything that’s been said so far just as much as you are. In fact if you think you’ve done nothing wrong you should be glad everything is being kept somewhere so anyone who wishes can see just how right you are! You and discoursegoth have been very selective with what you’ve chosen to reblog, i’d wanna keep a receipts blog too. You continue to minimize discoursegoths actions while playing up tinymushes, who hasnt done anything wrong besides think discoursegoth would be open to analyzing their own actions (✿´‿`)

And I’m not defending his actions for the millionth time. I said that what he did was gross both in public and in private. So if the both of you could stop making up lies just to seem pure then that would be awesome. Please stop acting like me not claiming her as the perfect image of flawlessness means that I think she did everything wrong. Also how exactly am I being selective? How is he being selective? Lol you could literally just search mush’s url on his blog and everything will probably be there. Just because we don’t have blogs dedicated to her doesn’t mean we’re just casually deleting all of what we said to each other.

I am innocent, all powerful violetdiscourse. The same way you think you’re on some moral high ground to show up out of nowhere and say “mushbun just to put this all to rest, lemme explain to you exactly what happened, exactly why discoursegoth was wrong, and exactly why you were wrong” like you’re the ultimate decider of what’s right and what’s wrong. I would love just one example of where tinymush slandered discoursegoths name, just one!    (っ˘ڡ˘ς) 

Actually discoursegoth has been extremely selective, instead of reblogging the posts tiny has responded to, he screenshots what he wants to and takes it out of context, acts like they’re from the same time frame, and is able to mold it into whatever he wants ~(˘▾˘~)

You have been attacking, she’s repeatedly asked you to stop, and you haven’t (until now because you can’t argue with anything we’ve said) I don’t think the emoticons are annoying, i think they’re cute (▰˘◡˘▰)

i really fucked up big time violetdiscourse thinks im a bad person and will continue to from here on out (;´༎ຶД༎ຶ`) and yet she still hasn’t addressed anything where she needs to provide examples  (;´༎ຶД༎ຶ`) (;´༎ຶД༎ຶ`) (;´༎ຶД༎ຶ`) brb gonna go slander her some more  (;´༎ຶД༎ຶ`) (;´༎ຶД༎ຶ`) (;´༎ຶД༎ຶ`) (;´༎ຶД༎ຶ`) (;´༎ຶД༎ຶ`) (;´༎ຶД༎ຶ`)

But to directly quote A Certain Person: “yes I literally am a perfect angel” [in reference to themselves] so like… okay. Who are you gonna believe here.

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so i make a (badly worded) anti terf post and of course, some white demon attacks me for it. i defend myself, she attacks back, and my dear friend @discoursegoth steps in and calls her out, as he should. what he did wrong was use a gendered slur against said terf, and then take a bit too long to say sorry, as well as bother you a little bit. he did wrong and i told you that explicitly.

what you did wrong, @mushbun, was see zero fucking problem with a white person threatening to beat up a black trans person and only jump in when @discoursegoth slips up and calls said white demon a bitch. and then you borderline make fun of him not being able to process what you said to him (ie: how on earth is “lol, bye” code for “i feel uncomfortable, please never talk to me again”???), and then you tell me that i approve of harassment (which is really fucking funny because i’ve been harassed about twice on this particular blog, lol, so i know what harassment is, and asking someone not to vague about you isn’t harassment but what tf ever, honey), and THEN you make a receipts blog dedicated to us! and you see zero problem with that??? it reeks of anti-blackness as well as quite a bit of ableism, and i don’t enjoy that shit.

funny how you didn’t once call out the person who threatened to beat me bloody, but calling a woman a bitch once means that @discoursegoth deserves a whole blog dedicated to him. and me not immediately bowing down to your Almighty Word means that your receipts blog is for me too. like this is really transparent and don’t act like it isn’t.

“what he did was […] take a bit too long to say sorry, as well as bother you a little bit” how in the hell is this statement not highly biased in favor of discoursegoth. how. he went out of his way to justify his choice to call a woman a bitch as well as continue talking to her when she disengaged. i can get not necessarily understanding that she was disengaging, but this becomes kind of a moot point when he later showed that he has no issues disregarding her clearly stating that she doesn’t wanna be in contact.

not to mention that especially discoursegoth keeps willfully twisting the situation.

please point out to me where she said discoursegoth had to stop defending you. i’d love to see that, because, multiple times, tinymush has said that she has no issue with fighting that terf and that said terf is in the wrong. her holding people defending you to a higher standard than using slurs is not wrong, especially as somebody who is targeted by the slur he used.

again. he demonstrated that, even when clearly told that no further contact is wanted, he won’t respect it. so i still feel like him not understanding initially is kind of a moot point.

you. kinda did condone a smear campaign against tinymush over holding discoursegoth to a higher standard and her telling an adult not to use sexually charged insults towards a minor (who, by the way, asked said adult to stop with those kinds of insults).

it says right in the description that it’s not a callout or receipts blog. tinymush likes keeping her blog clean but didn’t want those posts to get lost, so she put them on a sideblog. which is understandable, especially since stuff keeps spreading and she might want to show her side of this incident.

so i make a (badly worded) anti terf post and of course, some white demon attacks me for it. i defend myself, she attacks back, and my dear friend @discoursegoth steps in and calls her out, as he should. what he did wrong was use a gendered slur against said terf, and then take a bit too long to say sorry, as well as bother you a little bit. he did wrong and i told you that explicitly.

what you did wrong, @mushbun, was see zero fucking problem with a white person threatening to beat up a black trans person and only jump in when @discoursegoth slips up and calls said white demon a bitch. and then you borderline make fun of him not being able to process what you said to him (ie: how on earth is “lol, bye” code for “i feel uncomfortable, please never talk to me again”???), and then you tell me that i approve of harassment (which is really fucking funny because i’ve been harassed about twice on this particular blog, lol, so i know what harassment is, and asking someone not to vague about you isn’t harassment but what tf ever, honey), and THEN you make a receipts blog dedicated to us! and you see zero problem with that??? it reeks of anti-blackness as well as quite a bit of ableism, and i don’t enjoy that shit.

funny how you didn’t once call out the person who threatened to beat me bloody, but calling a woman a bitch once means that @discoursegoth deserves a whole blog dedicated to him. and me not immediately bowing down to your Almighty Word means that your receipts blog is for me too. like this is really transparent and don’t act like it isn’t.

“take a bit too long” he mocked and belittled me for having the gal to question him and then he started spreading that i have iffy politics!! 2, almost 3 weeks later!! because i defended a minor who was getting sexually charged insults from a 22 yr old! he didnt apologize until AFTER spreading all of this on me and he only did so after harassing me!!!

how do i explain in words that i havent already used that i only approached discoursegoth because i thought he would be open to criticism. literally how does anything ive said translate to “well him calling a girl a bitch was the LAST STRAW and im not mad at this terf at all”?? ???? ??

my lol bye was me disengaging from the conversation, it was not me saying i was uncomfortable and never wanted to speak to him again. i literally just said bye. but ok.

i dont think him confronting me about vaguing him is harassment, i think him ignoring every time i told him i didnt want to talk to him is harassment, but ok. and dont call me honey.

its literally in my about and description on this blog that it isnt a receipts blog. all i did was reblog the interactions i had with the both of you here (from my own blog) so i could clean up my main without erasing all of my responses, because going off of discoursegoth’s blog, it looks a lot different than what actually happened.

literally how does anything ive done reek of ableism or antiblackness. please tell me, i am dying to know.

ummmm how many times do i have to say that i dont want to interact with terfs because they scare me. how many times am i gonna have to repeat that i thought i would have a lot more leeway with someone who censored the slur as he used it than a terf. literally what the fuck are you not understanding here.

and again, this isnt a receipts blog, please stop assuming im anywhere near interested in either of you when all ive asked for, and continue to ask for, is the both of you to leave me alone and stop spreading misinfo on me.

this blog isnt dedicated to him, or to you, it’s literally about ME and any posts i made or responded to during this because i wanted to clean up my main blog but i didnt want the only records of what happened to come from other blogs (namely discoursegoth’s) because they never showed my full responses or the full context.

youve minimized everything he did to me because you ARE biased in his favor, and thats literally all i said wrt you. youre not special or important to me, and again, if you’d read the sentence RIGHT UNDER the title of this blog you’d see it isnt a fucking callout or receipts blog.

im not going to apologize or delete this blog. i never wanted an apology from him, i literally just wanted a discussion bc i wanted to know why he thought using a slur against a member of the group it targeted was okay in this instance.

and i mean, im more than perfect and i really, actually, didn’t do anything wrong so lol

#anyways i’m gonna boot up some criminal minds for my liveblog so you have fun being obsessed with us

And I feel uncomfortable around terfs too (like any other rational person) but I don’t stand by and watch them be ugly. When I see a terf I call that shit out regardless of how uncomfortable it makes me because that’s called being an ally to trans women. My ~comfort~ doesn’t matter when I need to be an ally. So for you to sit back and watch as a terf threatens me, a black nb girl who was actually a minor at the time, with violence, but then drag someone through the mud for misspeaking while trying to defend me? Yes, no wonder people say you’re a terf supporter and no wonder people are wary of your motives. Watching as a black person gets harassed by a white person and then defending that white person for a reason as pathetic as that is anti black for sure.

Also I’m not biased at all. Ask anyone who knows me personally and they’ll tell you that I will drop whoever whenever I find out that they’re shitty. I’m not gonna name names because my friends don’t need this drama but like… I’m not afraid to call my friends out. Literally ask him about the minor scolding I gave him earlier today (if he’s even in the mood to speak to you).

Like I told him just today that he’s lucky he said sorry because if he didn’t I would’ve dropped him. What he did to you was bad. Very bad. It was a bad thing. What you’re doing is also bad. But the difference between you and him is that you don’t even have the humbleness nor self awareness to gather yourself and see your actions as even slightly flawed. Sorry honey, but you’re wrong too. I read everything and you did wrong.

And about your “not a receipts blog”, oh my god. So you say it’s not for receipts and yet you’re reblogging everything we’ve said about the situation all in one place while implying that we’re the bad guys? Sure, Becky. Okay. Whatever.

This is just so incredible to me. Like I don’t even care what this is about anymore. You’re dragging my friend through the mud for no real reason at this point. And yes you have spoken about the both of us, please don’t lie to me. Just next time, maybe, I don’t know, don’t do what you’re currently doing. Like I never asked you to say sorry. Just stop slandering my friend and stop acting like some pure and good angel who does no wrong. It’s not that hard. Like fuck it, I’m well aware of how petty I’m being as I type this actually. I’m being so damn petty, and I can acknowledge that. Do I have my reasons? No duh, of course I do. Does that mean I can get away with being petty as fuck? Lol, probably not. Do you have your reasons for dragging my friend? Actually, yes you do. Several reasons. Does that mean you’re of zero blame though? Absolutely not.

you run a discourse blog, clearly youre interested in calling out and fighting ppl you deem shitty. im not. my mental and physical health are bad enough without exposing myself to Bad People. being unwilling to call out every terf i see doesnt make me any less of an ally. i step in to protect people when i can but when i cant, i cant.

i didnt drag him through the mud, i sent one ask, left one reply where i disengaged, and then vagued abt him without so much as mentioning his NAME. he chose to confront and subsequently harass me. he did that of his own volition, and then he dragged MY name through the mud weeks later because i DID step in to protect a minor.

why would you think i ever want to speak to either of you again? i dont care that you dont think youre biased. youre very clearly biased in his favor.

i already told you to stop calling me honey. i didnt do anything wrong by asking a discourser why he thought it was appropriate to use slurs, and i didnt do anything wrong by defending myself when he later harassed me and spread lies about me.

im reblogging everything I’VE said on this situation, including personal posts i would have otherwise deleted because they were relevant. i dont know why you think im out to collect receipts on either of you when ive stated multiple times at this point that i just want to make sure my record of events is available without cluttering my main blog.

i… literally have not spoken about you. ive vagued him, sure, because this has been a stressful situation and im allowed to vent. but i hadnt mentioned you at all until you @d me 24 hours after the dust had settled.

im not… dragging him… all ive ever done is respond when he mentions my name and asked the both of you to leave me alone.

i literally am a pure angel and in this instance i havent done anything wrong. you both seem hellbent on painting me as an irrational, inconsistent bully.

and of course this doesnt make me look good! you both (but especially discoursegoth) are doing your best to twist everything thats happened as much as possible! thats the entire reason i even need to KEEP these posts! otherwise my name will keep being tarnished and i wont even have my own account to point to!

im not trying to interact w anyone i literally reblogged the posts from myself to keep them off my blog.