Aaron&Robert Sugden-Dingle

Mixing up chalk and cheese wont ever make sense!!

He was scared of him and his reaction!!!!!! 

What anyone else thinks feels or wishes does not matter when HE EXPLICITLY STATED what he is being subjected to! 

Robert has explicitly stated “it’s not easy to sleep knowing he is out there” “might as well be back in prison” 

CLEAR CONFIRMATIONS AND STATEMENTS!!

of how he feels about what is being done to him! 

This isn’t some meta or over analysis or misreading signs or reading some invisible thoughts between the lines. This is isn’t some grey area! 

It was explicitly stated and portrayed!  What you, your nan and any other person or character thinks does not factor into it ! He said he was scared and terrified and that is the fact.

For the sake of any decency accept that (you don’t even have to admit it) just accept it and give it a fucking rest! Because if you are jumping into hoops and loops to excuse it please reflect and learn because you are a real life person living among real life people going through such serious issues and situations and I hope to God you are not this inane around them! 

Ps. Hypothetically say Robert was/is this messed up person news flash doesn’t change the fact that what he has gone through is “ABUSE”! 

Hypothetically say Aaron was/is this messed up person doesn’t change the fact that he was mocked for his CSA publicly! Threatened repeatedly! And got shot at!  It doesn’t justify it and it doesn’t excuse it ! And it most certainly doesn’t wash it out ! 

Robert is the one wronged and his forgiveness is the one that needs to be atoned for it to be a proper redemption. READ ON HOW TO ACHIVE THAT!

Aaron forgave him he saw all of it, reacted to all of it and decided to willingly forgive him.

for fucks sake…

Abuse is any repeated form of physical, emotional or sexual mistreatment, aggression or lack of care that leads to injury or harm. Coercion, Stalking, harassment, manipulation, terrorizing and verbal aggression are all forms of abuse too.

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Out of prison, when Kev wanted sex, he brought up his (self-stabbing) scar as a friendly reminder to Robert that he owes him his life. I don’t think it would be far -fetched to assume that he did this while they were in prison as well.

Besides the self-stabbing lie, which I fully agree was manipulation, what were "all the other" manipulation you're talking about while they were in prison? Provide canon examples, not your headcanons or speculation. And if Robert was "trapped", how was he finally able to appeal?

The self-stabbing went on for YEARS…..and it’s still not even been revealed and it was that in the first place that made Robert agree to marriage. That happened in 2021, Robert didn’t get out till 2025.

He wanted to appeal the first time around and that was when Kev stabbed himself to keep Robert in prison with him. The second time around he had to LIE to Kev about appealing by saying Victoria had a brain tumour (did you not watch it?) and had to reassure him that he didn’t want to leave him. He felt so trapped that he had to make up that his sister had a brain tumour just so Kev would be okay with his appeal. Then when Kev got out of prison…what did he do? Lied about dying and not having long to live so that Robert would again stay with him (until he died) knowing full well he was never going to die. What about all the times Robert had to tiptoe and walk on eggshells around Kev out of ‘fear for what he might do’. Robert himself said to Kev that it was never love that Kev felt for Robert it was control.

Yeah? And people hated him, wanted nothing to do with him, tried to kill him for it. Kev, OTOH? Everyone’s carrying him around like he’s the second coming and build him up like he did something. All he did was manipulate people, lie, threaten them, disrespect boundaries, obsess, hold people hostage, attempted murder. He left to go on the run, went back into prison for unknown reasons, was lured back into the fold for stealing something then of all a sudden, he’s the best guy in the world. We shouldn’t talk about what he did 11 months ago but people keep reaching back 12 years for something Robert did.

Mind you…Robert came back to judgy eyes and struggling for work and employment just for killing someone, who the police now believe he may not have actually killed, for RAPING his sister and Katie was STILL thrown in his face from over 10+ years ago for something he didn’t even do!!

There's a reason why there's so many comments and discussions about how Aaron still married Robert after the lodge incident, and people can only defend it saying "it's a soap, it can be over the top and shouldn't be realistic". It's honestly embarrassing how some Robron stans just call abuse on other ships yet turn a blind eye on how objectively abusive and toxic their ship actually started.

I’m not going to explain myself a million times and keep having this same silly talk on it especially since this conversation moved on a while ago now. Robert was married and trapped in a prison cell with Kev for years whilst all of the manipulation was going on for a start. Secondly, by the time Aaron married Robert there was NOTHING in their relationship that was anything like 2015 (before they were together) compared to Robert and Kev, because Robert had this thing called REDEMPTION! Before they even got together officially, Kev had none of that. So yeah, to me that is completely different!

It’s pointless bringing up the shit Robert did before he redeemed himself and got with Aaron properly cause none of it matters in comparison to what I stated above. The biggest part is REDEMPTION, and Robert had to fight like absolute hell to be able to get that and get to where he is now personally and within his relationship with Aaron. Kev isn’t comparable in the slightest!

This is true, poor Ross is carrying his family so far LOL, everyone has to be a Dingle now….

Well, at least they noticed Kev and Lewis are being infantilized. That’s something 😂.

What’s annoying me as someone who has austism myself, I’m not liking the infantilisation of Lewis but of course they make it about being “toxic” robron fans 🙄

RIGHT?! 😭