Long post only for those with the patience to read through it.
I met Alyssa in early 2019 on Ashley Madison. She and her husband wanted to find an âactiveâ LDS man in Utah County to have sex with Alyssa while her husband watched. I was lucky and got to help them with the fantasy. It was my first ever hookup on an online site and ânoâ my wife doesnât not know about it and probably never will.Â
I hooked up with Alyssa a total of seven times between March and July 2019 â twice with her and with her husband watching (they specifically asked that I wear my garments under my clothes when I met them for sex and Alyssa came wearing her garments too). I met with Alyssa four more times just the two of us. And, once I hooked up with Alyssa and her cousin Chelsea (Chelseaâs name has been changed in this narrative at Alyssaâs request since some of the detail would make it easy to identify her if someone searched). In the course of my hookups I learned about Alyssa and her cousin Chelsea. I pleaded with Alyssa to let me meet her cousin. The time we were together the three of us, we spent four hours in a hotel in Thanksgiving point in July. I asked a thousand questions of Chelsea since I finally had the two of them together. Chelsea validated everyting Alyssa had told me. Their story is so erotic that I asked her permission to write down what they told me. I asked follow up questions over time to be sure I got as much of it correct as I could. Their story gets me HOT so Iâm sharing it here.
Alyssa and Chelsea grew up in the north end of Utah County. Today both of them live in Lehi, Utah. They are first cousins who were born 8 days apart. Theyâve been best friends their entire lives. They grew up as active members of the Church. They are both active today and attend the temple regularly. If you go to the Timpanogos temple, you might be sitting beside them in a session. Their dads are brothers. Both dads have been LDS bishops. They are both the oldest child in their families and they both have six siblings. Alyssa has three brothers and three sisters. Chelsea has five brothers and one sister. Alyssa showed me a video that she and Chelsea made in 2015, Alyssa was engaged to be married at the time. The video was Alyssa and Chelsea making love. It was filmed by Alyssaâs then fiance. Now, in 2019, Alyssa has two baby boys, one is three and one is 6 months old. When the video was made, Chelsea was ready to leave on her mission to Argentina. She has since finished her mission and she is engaged to a returned missionary. She will graduate from UVU next summer with a degree in elementary education. Her fiance is studying business at UVU. If you think through that sequence of events, youâll realize that the first time I hooked up with Alyssa, she was 6 months pregnant.Â
Alyssa and Chelsea started playing sexually when they were 6 years old sleeping over together. Alyssa remembers showing Chelsea how to rub against a wadded up blanket because it felt good. When they had sleepovers or playtimes they would masturbate together that way. They were caught once by Chelseaâs dad when they were 8 years old and both of them got a little spanking from their moms. They were both given talks about their private parts and keeping their bodies covered up and about âmodesty.â What they learned at the time, the lesson that was engrained from being caught, was not to stop rubbing against blankets and things. Instead, the lesson they learned was to not let anyone catch them humping the blankets or pillows or stuffed animals, but they kept doing it.
Not long after they got caught humping blankets that time, when they were still 8 years old, Chelsea got new pillow cases that were a silky or satiny material. The material was soft and slick against her legs. She told me that she was rubbing against the pillow and it felt good against her bare skin on her legs, on her thighs. She got the idea to take her panties off and rub. It felt heavenly! She showed Alyssa and they started masturbating without panties , not just with the satiny pillow cases, but other times as well. They especially liked no panties humping against a couple of stuffed animals with soft fur.
In 2005, when they were 9 years old, Chelsea found some pictures on the Internet when she was doing a Google search at home. It was a Sunday afternoon and her parents were napping. Her siblings werenât around and she discovered porn for the first time. Not just porn, but lesbian porn. She had clicked on a link that took her to a page with a bunch of images. These first porn pictures she ever saw happend to be two girls licking each otherâs pussy and sucking each otherâs breasts. From the look on their faces, it seemed obvious to Chelsea that what they were doing in the pictures felt good and was fun. She remembers vividly that those pictures, the photo set, was labeled at the top of the page in big block letters, âLoving Cousins.â She laughed when she told me that she has thought over the years that it was a message from heaven.
That title and the pictures created a strong sexual stirring inside Chelsea. Up to that point, masturbating had just been something that felt good. Those pictures and what she would see and feel in the next hour changed Chelsea deeply and forever. She didnât know exactly what changed, but she felt different. She was feeling sexual desire and arousal for the first time that had anything to do with another person.Â
Because of the title on the pictures â Loving Cousins â Chelsea immediately had the idea to maybe do with Alyssa what those girls were doing. And, from the pictures, it was obvious to her 9 year old mind, what those âcousinsâ were doing was something other cousins did. It wasnât a conscious thought process, but the message to her was that what they were doing wasnât weird or abnormal or wrong or unusual. The message to her mind was that cousins, girl cousins, can do that with each other. She also knew instinctively that if she got caught looking at the pictures she would be in trouble and that doing it with Alyssa they would be in trouble if they got caught. So, you can do it. Other cousins do it. Just donât get caught doing it.
Chelsea clicked on the pictures which led to other links and other links and other links. The first pictures after the cousin pictures were also lesbian-related. Chelsea told me that she thinks that the first pictures were girls who were college-age. The she told me that she remembers VERY clearly that the next set of links she clicked took her to pictures that she thinks were certainly illegal child pornography of girls who were much younger.Â
Even in 2005 the Internet was policing child pornography. But it wasnât eradicated so much from the mainstream web as it is today. In her first time in front of pornography, Chelsea saw a picture set of what she thinks were about 50 pictures of girls who appeared in her memory to be between the ages of 5 and maybe up to age 14 or 15-ish. I asked her what the pictures showed. She said the girls were kissing, kissing with tongues, licking and sucking breasts, even when there wasnât any developed breast, or there was just a puffy emerging nipple, they were laying on each other rubbing pussies, they were kissing and licking each others pussies and anuses, doing what she later learned was sixty-nine, and some of them were inserting objects into their vaginas and bottoms, things like toothbrushes and brush handles, candles. She remembers seeing one girl putting a carrot and a banana inside another girl and vice versa and she thinks they were not much older than her and Alyssa. She remembers being shocked at how far the carrot and the banana seemed to go inside the two girls, how much of it disappeared inside her body. She had never imagined that her body had a âcaveâ like that between her legs. She is pretty sure that a few of the pictures showed the girls with semen on their faces and chests and pussies, but there was no picture of a penis that she remembers in that set. She didnât know at the time what semen was.
Chelsea and Alysaa talked to me about how the sequence of when Chelsea saw the pictures and the titles and the ages of the subjects in the pictures, how that sequence and flow was very much a formula that solidified to her that what they were doing in those pictures appeared to be enjoyable and fun and in her mind at the time, it was desirable and apparently ânormalâ because other girls, most especially other people including girl cousins, obviously do this together, and it clearly makes them happy and is fun. Seeing young girls about her and Alyssaâs age validated for her that it was all OK, at least that other girls did this kind of thing even if she had the clear concept that if their parents knew about these activities, they wold be in trouble. She explained to me that since they had already received a âtalking toâ from their parents because of rubbing against blankets, they both knew that anything else that had to do with their bodies, especially the part of their bodies covered up by their panties, would cause problems with their parents and probably all other adults. But here in these pictures on the computer was proof that other girls did it too and that those girls looked like it was fun and that there were a LOT more things to try than just rubbing against blankets and pillows and stuffed animals.
Chelsea thinks that the next pictures she saw were also women, amateur, average, stretch-mark, cellulite, adult MILF-type women-next-door having sex, including she remembers seeing some pregnant women. And then after those pictures she ended up seeing male-female sex for the first time. It was inevitable that once she was on a thread of porn, she would end up seeing something other than lesbian material, right? She remembers the amazement she felt as she saw oral sex between male and female partners first and then she started seeing intercourse pics and videos. She remembers thinking how enormous penises were and being confused about the sticky white stuff coming out of the penis in so many pictures. She realized quickly that the white stuff on pubic hair and breasts and butts and draining out of vaginas and on a womanâs face and hair and lips had come out of the penises. That was all new information, but she could see the source of the stuff in the pictures and then she saw ejaculation actually happen in a couple videos.
Chelsea remembers being stunned that penises so big could fit inside a woman. She didnât previously even understand that woman had an opening âdown thereâ like that. She knew she could pee down there, but had no idea whatsoever that a woman had an opening anything like she was seeing. She was watching short videos in addition to the pictures, and she saw ejaculation and semen and facials and cream pies. She saw shaved women and women with natural pubic hair and in-between. She saw anal sex. And then she saw lesbian pictures of women with strap-ons. It made quite an impression on her.
She told me that if she had seen those porn pics and videos that day and she hadnât already been masturbating and enjoying sexual feelings â even though she didnât associate her masturbation as anything sex-related â had she seen these things without having started to discover her body and the good feelings she got from pleasuring herself, that maybe the porn images would have been way way more troubling to her. She said that a lot of it was shocking. But the first things she had seen were girls, teenage looking girls having sex together and licking pussies. That wasnât too hard a thing to grasp and understand and appreciate. Then, seeing grown-up women doing it, that also made a kind of sense. And then, even though it was little girls in porn, seeing girls her own age naked and doing things to their bodies themself and with other girls and smiling about it, it all set a kind of stage that she was curious and feeling kind of aroused and it wasnât really troubling to her. When she got to male-female sex, that was pretty crazy different than anything she had ever imagined, but the momentum of what she was seeing put her in a place that she felt like he was just learning a shit-load of new stuff that had been kept secret from her up until now. She was seeing really grown-up stuff. As shocking as some of it was, she was feeling like a sponge of information. She also wanted desperately to share all this with Alyssa and she was trying to remember and observe as much as she could so she could tell Liss what she had stumbled on.
Chelsea said that as soon as she saw the male-female pictures, she realized what she was seeing was âsex.â Seeing the girls and women together hadnât completed the bridge in her mind to that word âsexâ that she had heard. Seeing the girls and women naked and kissing and rubbing and licking each other was, maybe, something girls and women did as friends? It was nice and fun, and a girl thing? I mean she and Alyssa took their panties off together and rubbed things, right? But seeing men and those huge penises, she said she also realized that what she was seeing was how babies were made. She didnât yet understand the role of semen or that you couldnât get pregnant from oral sex or anal intercourse. But when those things were discussed in 5th and 6th grade health discussions, she understood as well and better than most of the other kids. She knew seeing the naked men and women that THIS was SEX. And, she also started to think that maybe the stuff the girls were doing together was also âSEXâ and that was why her parents had told her and Alyssa not to do the rubbing thing?
Chelsea said that one thing that made a big impression on her was seeing women having what she later learned were orgasms, climaxes in both the pictures and the videos. At first she thought they were in pain. But she realized quickly that it wasnât pain, it was something else, something really desirable. Up to that point, her masturbation felt good. She thinks now that even at a young age, she was having little orgasms. But she had never had what she refers to as a âfullâ climax. That wouldnât happen for her until she was 11 years old.
As she was surfing through porn pics, after about an hour, one of her siblings came into the office where the computer was located. She quickly turned it off. She immediately went to her mom and asked if she could go over to Alyssaâs house. Alyssa lived two blocks away. Her mom said, âyes.â
Chelsea went to Alyssaâs and they went outside in the backyard together and got on the swingset. Chelsea gushed information, telling Alyssa everything she could remember.Alyssa remembers asking a hundred questions so fast that Chelsea couldnât start to answer and a lot of questions Chelsea didnât know the answers. Especially without having seen for herself, Alyssa wasnât getting the entire âpicture.â Alyssa wanted to see things right then, but they couldnât without being caught. The most important thing they talked about was Chelsea telling Alyssa about the cousins kissing and licking each other âdown thereâ and that it looked like the best thing ever. Alyssa said she wanted to try it. Chelsea did too. They talked to their parents. It was summertime. They had a sleepover that night at Chelseaâs house.
They were in bed together by ten o'clock. They giggled and took off their panties and rubbed against the satin pillowcases and talked about what Chelsea had seen. At midnight when the house was quiet and they believed everyone was asleep, they sneaked into the office and shut the door and locked it from the inside. Chelsea turned on the computer. She didnât know how to search for porn pictures directly, but she remembered the word she had been seaching for when she had first discovered the pictures earlier that day. Within a couple minutes, Chelsea was sharing the lesbian pictures with Alyssa entitled, âLoving Cousins.â Alyssa was just as emotionally moved as Chelsea by what she saw. She felt something as deeply as she had ever felt something in her young life.
Chelsea clicked the links in the same order at first and she and Alyssa ended up seeing and sharing the illegal pictures of the young girls. Chelsea couldnât remember everything she had clicked next and so the order of what Alyssa saw was different after the set of girl child pictures. Alyssa remembers that the next pictures that came up were Male-Female intercourse and that they included threesomes and anal sex. She told me that she remembers seeing lots of pictures of fellatio and videos of facial cum shots and then some of pregnant women having sex together and sucking each otherâs milky breasts and the women were pinching their breasts and nipples with their fingers and squirting milk on each others faces and breasts and pussies.
The girls ended up in a set of animal sex pictures of women having sex with larger dogs. That was too shocking to the two girls and they turned off the computer and went back to their room.
They were quiet at first. Alyssa broke the silence and said, âLetâs do that kissing thing down there.â Without saying another word, both girls started to pull off their pajama bottoms and then their panties. Alyssa told me that she said, âIâll lick you first.â Â And she slid under the covers. There wasnât any more build up than that. Alyssa got between Chelseaâs legs and started to lick. Chelsea groaned. Alyssa stopped and said, âIs it OK?â Â Chelsea hesitated, trying to find her voice. She said, âYeah. Itâs really good. Really really good. Keep doing that.â Â Alyssa licked and Chelsea moaned and whimpered until Alyssaâs tongue and jaw were tired, only a couple minutes. Â She stopped and came up out of the sheets for air. She said, âMy mouth is tired. Do you want to try on me?â Â Chelsea said, âYeah.â And she slid under the sheets and between Alyssaâs thighs and started licking.
Alyssa responded more vocally than Chelsea. She almost immediately whispered, âOh my gosh, Chels! Oh my gosh!â Chelsea licked and sucked Alyssaâs pussy for two or three minutes, a bit longer than Alyssa had done to her. And then Chelsea came up out of the sheets. They were both a little breathless. Chelsea said, âLiss, I like that.â Â Alyssa said, âI LOVE that, Chels.â And Chelsea remembers saying, âI really have to go pee.â Â She remembers Alyssa laughing and saying, âMe too.â
Chelsea remembers they both got out of bed together and went to the bathroom. They were both wearing a pajama top and nothing else. They had left their pajama bottoms and panties in the bed. The bathroom was a connecting Jack and Jill arrangement shared with Chelseaâs 5 year old sister. Chelsea remembers she locked the doors and turned on the lights. It was the first time the girls had ever openly peed with each other. They were both naked from the waist down. Alyssa peed first and then Chelsea.Â
When Chelsea was wiping, Alyssa stood right by the toilet and said, âChels, can I look at you down there?â Â Chelsea spread her legs apart and Alyssa started to touch her and to spread her lips apart and to explore. After a bit, Chelsea said, âI want to look at you.â They traded places on the toilet. Alyssa spread her legs and Chelsea softly pulled lips apart and really looked at a girlâs parts for the first time in her life, more than many girls ever do.
Chelsea said, âLiss, I want to lick you again in the light.â Alyssa said, âUh, OK. Yeah.â Â And Chelsea began licking and sucking in the light so both girls could see what they were doing. Chelsea told me that she remembers paying attention to where Alyssaâs opening was. She was thinking of the videos they had watched and she tried to lick that opening and to get her tongue inside a little bit like they had seen in the videos. Again, after a couple minutes, Chelsea stopped and asked if Alyssa wanted to do it to her. They traded places and Alyssa licked and sucked Chelsea. Alyssa told me that she remembers the same thoughts as Chelsea â paying attention to that little opening, thinking how big it seemed in other girls and women they had seen.
Chelsea, remembering the Internet pictures said, âLiss, do you want to lick and suck my nipple?â Â Neither girl had breasts forming yet. Chelsea lifted her pajama top and Alyssa licked her tiny nipple. It didnât have the kind of response that she felt from having her pussy licked, but it was nice. Chelsea told me recently that back then, the experience of having her nipples licked and sucked even without any develped breasts, actually felt kind of âgrown-upâ even though that seems funny to say. It was something that hinted of being a grown-up woman with developed breasts and nipples and the ability to make milk for her babies. She remembers thinking that she wanted Alyssa someday to suck milk from her breasts and to do the same from Alyssa like they had seen on the Internet.
Of course, Alyssa wanted Chelsea to do it to her. Chelsea licked and sucked BOTH of Alyssaâs breasts, both sides. Alyssa had only done one side to Chelsea. So then Alyssa had to do both breasts for Chelsea too. Â And they went back to bed.
Alyssa told me and Chelsea also told me the story that when they were 14 years old they were babysitting for Alyssaâs parents and Alyssa had a five month old new baby at her house. The girls had breasts by that time and they took turns trying to have the baby nurse on them. Alyssa and Chelsea were in tears laughing as they told me that the baby sucked so hard they both had hickies from trying it. I asked if it had turned them on. They looked at each other and Chelsea said, âWe went down on each other after trying it if that means anything.â
Chelsea said that the porn was how it really all started started between the two of them in a sexual way. The next week after that Sunday of discovery, they tried sixty-nine and liked that. Not much longer after starting to do sixty-nine, they copied more of what they had seen on the Internet and that resulted in putting a finger in each otherâs bottom using lotion. They learned some things very quickly about emptying their bowels before sticking their fingers and other things in each others butts. Sometime soon after the anal exploration, they first tried rubbing their pussies together. That wasnât easy, but it felt nice to be laying on each other and to have full body contact. It took practice before they got good at pussy rubbing, tribbing, and doing it in more positions other than by simply laying on top of each other.
They were suddenly both sexually aware. Alyssa realized only two weeks later that Sunday afternoon naps for her parents were probably a time they were having sex. She told Chelsea that her parents locked their bedroom door on Sundayâs when they had the nap. She told Chelsea that when they would go in for a nap at first the door would be locked. Then, a few minutes later even though the kids knew they were supposed to leave mom and dad alone unless it was an emergency, the door would be unlocked.Â
Chelsea and Alyssa spied under the door the next Sunday at Alyssaâs house. It was a double door into their master bedroom. There was enough clearance under the door that the two girls could see most of the room, but they could not see up on the bed. After Alyssaâs parents went in the room, the girls quickly positioned themselves to spy under the door. They saw clothing and underwear being dropped on the floor. They saw bare legs standing facing each other beside the bed. They could hear soft giggles and then moans. Â
They could hear rhythic bouncing and they could see movement of the bed that matched the sounds. Then they heard a groan from Alyssaâs dad and it got quiet and things seemed to be over. Just before the girls were about to get up and leave, the girls could hear more moans. They could hear Alyssaâs mom panting and then moaning and saying, âYes, cumming, cummingâ And then both girls jumped up from their spying position on the floor like they had been given an electric shock when they heard Alyssaâs mom, the ward Primary President, clearly say, âFuck, fuck, fuck. God Damn Josh, Fuck Yes.â Â Â
Those words hadnât been shouted. She had said it softly enough, but her words were crystal clear. From under the door, both girls understood exactly what they had just heard. At first they were stunned and shocked. Of course, they had both just vicariously experienced sex for the first time in a ârealâ setting with real people. That was quite enough for two 9 year old girls. But to hear Alyssaâs religious, polite, sweet, kind, good mom say âFuckâ and to have heard her repeat it several times at that, was staggering. At least at first. The girls ran outside. The shock started to wear off pretty fast and then it gave way to waves of giggles and then bursts of uncontrollable laughter and then the girls started to mimic Alyssaâs mom to each other.
For the first time in either girlâs life, they had a reason and they gave themself license to say the âFâ word. They said to each other, âFuck, fuck, fuck damn yes, Joshâ Â "Fuck damn yes fuck" âGod damn fuck yes fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck damn Josh.â Â They tried to outdo each other and they laughed until they were crying. Alyssa wet her panties and that made them laugh even harder. Â They went to the bathroom together and took turns peeing and then licking each other.
From that time on, they would talk to each other about âfuckingâ when they meant masturbating or sharing cunnilingus.â They felt very grown up saying that word to each other. When they would give each other cunnilingus, the one receiving it would whisper, âfuck, fuck, fuck, yes, God damn, shit, fuck yes Chels.â Or, âYes, yes, fuck yes, God damn fuck yes Liss.â
When they thought they could get away with it, they would browse for porn together on the computer at either home. They very soon saw girls peeing their panties and that led to videos of couples wetting on each other. At first it grossed them out. Until Chelsea was rubbing herself with a finger while she was laying in bed one night alone. She realized she needed to pee. Being pretty aroused from her masturbation, the thought came to her to just wet a little in her panties. She had seen videos of women wetting their panties on purpose. So she tried. It was really really hard. She needed to pee, but nothing would come out. She started to push really hard and nothing would come out. She got maybe one or two tiny drops eventually.Â
She finally got up out of bed and went to the bathroom. She started to pull down her panties to sit on the toilet, but she stopped because it felt like suddenly she was going to be able to pee. So she pulled her panties back on and she sat on the toilet and tried to pee with her panties on. At first, like laying in bed, nothing. She pushed and pushed and pushed and still even though she needed to pee, she couldnât.
Again, she started to pull down her panties, but as she did, she realized again that she was about to pee. She pulled her panties back in place and instead of pushing, she tried to relax and get that feeling back, the feeling of being just about to pee. She realized that it was more about relaxing. She told me that she figured out that if she pushed really hard and then relaxed, that during the relaxation the feeling of âgoing to peeâ would appear.
So she pushed and pushed and then relaxed, then pushed and pushed, then relaxed and she felt herself starting to pee. At first it was just a spurt when she peed into her panties. Even though she was trying to do it, the shock of it, of actually peeing her panties, caused her to stop almost immediately. It was arousing. It felt naughty. It was warm and then it became quickly cool. Her panties were definitely wet now. She relaxed again and another spurt and then another spurt. Each time she stopped quickly. But each time was easier to start up than it had been the last time.
She relaxed more and this time she let herself go and she peed and peed and soaked her panties. Her pee was running over her thighs and around to her bottom. Some was running down the bottom of one thigh and down her leg. She realized that she liked the feeling. She finished peeing into her panties. When she was done, she remembers feeling embarrased and silly as she took her dripping panties off and pulled them down her legs. What had felt naughty and exciting seconds ago now felt different and she didnât enjoy the feeling of pulling her wet panties down her legs and getting her hands wet with her pee. She remembers wondering what was she going to do with her wet panties? She stuffed them into the bottom of the dirty clothes basket and she dried herself off with a hand towel and pulled her pajama bottoms on without panties and went back to bed. Â
She didnât tell Alyssa what she had done. The next day after school, Chelsea remembers being petrified when her mom said, âChelsea, sweetie, I donât want to embarrass you, but did you have an accident last night in bed?â Â Chelsea was horrified and didnât know what to say. She thought she had been caught. Her mom could tell Chelsea was freaked out and she quickly wrapped her in a hug and said, âOh Chelsea, Iâm SO sorry sweetie. Iâm SO sorry I asked you like that. Itâs OK, girls sometimes have a little accident like that. Itâs just part of being a girl sweetie. Itâs really OK. Iâm sure it wonât happen very often. Itâs OK. Really."Â Â
Chelsea remembers suddenly realizing that compared to admitting to her mom that she had peed her panties on purpose, her mom gave her this perfect excuse and this feeling of escape and relief flooded over her. She hadnât been caught at all. She said, "Uh, yeah mom, how embarrassing. I donât know what happened.â Â And her mom said, âIâll change your sheets and put clean ones one sweetie. Really, itâs OK. Itâs a girls thing.â
Chelsea felt SO relieved. That night laying in bed she realized that she wanted to do it again. She had figured out that previous night that the alternating back and forth of pushing hard and then relaxing had allowed her to let some pee out after about three tries. This night she did it a couple times and then realized that she was getting her sheets wet in the bed. She got up and went in the bathroom, sat on the toilet and slowly experimented peeing and wetting her panties sitting on the toilet and then she tried it standing in the bathtub. When she was finished this time and when she took off her wet panties, it didnât bother her so much. She rinsed them and laid them on the floor vent in her room to dry. Â The next morning, they were completely dry. She had figured out what to do.Â
A couple days later, she got a bathroom towel and put in under her in bed and she wet her panties in bed and soaked the towel. She found out that one towel wasnât enough. She liked doing it in bed, but it took three towels to be safe and it was too hard to dry three towels. So, she only wet in bed occasionally.
It took two weeks before she told Alyssa about wetting her panties. The way she told Alyssa was that one night they had been masturbating in bed laying side by side touching each other and talking about getting married and how many babies they would have and what it would be like to have sex with a boy and how old they would be before they would try that and whether they would wait until they were married or not. Alyssa needed to pee and they got up together. Â
As they got out of bed, Chelsea grabbed her panties and took them into the bathroom. She told Alyssa she needed to pee first. She proceeded to put her panties on. Alyssa was confused and said, âWhat are you doing?â Chelsea said, âI learned something from what we saw on the Internet.â Â Alyssa said, âWhat are you doing?â as Chelsea sat on the toilet with her panties in place. And Chelsea shut her eyes and pushed and relaxed and pushed and relaxed and then proceeded to wet her panties.Â
Alyssa was blown away. As Chelseaâs panties became soaked and the wetness dripped from her thighs and bottom, Alyssa finally said, âFuck Chels.â Â Chelsea said, âIt feels really good, but itâs harder to do than you think. I had to practice. I totally bet you canât wet your panties on purpose.â
Alyssa wasnât sure about this new activity, but she was both a daredevil and an exhibitionist. She sat on the toilet and pushed and pushed and pushed. Chelsea said, âSee I told you.â Â You canât push. You have to push hard and then relax and just let it happen.â With that and a little more coaching, Alyssa wet her panties in sort of the same pattern that Chelsea had done the first time. Alyssa said, "I thought it would be gross. I think I like it too."Â
Chelsea told Alyssa what had happened with her wet panties and her mom and they both laughed. She showed Alyssa how to rinse them out and to wring them out and then to find a place for them to dry for morning. They went back to bed and took turns giving each other cunnilingus and whispering, "Fuck, fuck, yesâ as they enjoyed the feelings their young bodies allowed them to know.
When they were 10 years old, more than a year later, Chelsea and Alyssa had made an art of spying on their parents. In those times they had âheardâ sex several more times. They had heard Alyssaâs mom swear a few more times and they added some new words to their sex vocabulary, âpussy, cock, fuck me, cum, cumming, harderâ. They had heard Chelseaâs mom and dad both say âFuckâ as well, although not as often as Alyssaâs mom for whom it was a predictable part of her orgasm.âÂ
One Sunday they told Chelseaâs parents they were going to Alyssaâs house. Instead, they hid under Chelseaâs parentsâ bed. It was Alyssaâs idea. The bed had a skirt all the way around so they were invisible unless the parents actually look under the bed on purpose. The girls didnât see anything that day, but they heard sex very close up. They had to wait two hours under the bed until their parents finished sex, a nap, and then got up and left the room. They were a little confused because Chelseaâs parents played a game that day and they called each other by different names â names of another man and woman in the ward, a younger couple with one new baby, who lived next door.
On a Wednesday night at Thanksgiving time, a lot of family was visiting from out of town. The youngest sister in their dadsâ family had just gotten married that previous summer. She and her new husband were staying at Chelseaâs house and they were using the adjoining Jack and Jill bedroom on the other side of the bathroom from Chelseaâs room. Chelsea and Alyssa were having a sleepover at Chelseaâs house. The girls had been in bed for about an hour when the adults started to go to bed. Chelsea and Alyssa were silent as the newly married young couple used the shared bathroom.Â
Alyssa was the one who suggested it. She said, "Letâs spy on them."Each bedroom had two doors into the shared bathroom. One door was directly into the bathroom from the bedroom. The other door was from a shared walk-in closet. There was a door to the closet from each bedroom and a single door from the closet into the bathroom. Alyssa whispered to Chelsea, "Letâs go into their closet. They maybe left the door open.
The girls sneaked into the closet and they crept toward the other room. Not only was the closet door wide open to the other bedroom, the lamps on both night stands beside the bed were on. Alyssa told me that she remembers seeing the couple reading their scriptures on each side of the bed. The girls were tingling with excitement from being naughty and secretive. They were laying on the floor under the child-height clothes rod. Only their faces would have been visible if the couple had even suspected or known to look for spies. They didnât have any idea. Â
The girls noticed immediately that the couple was wearing only their underwear, their temple garments. Alyssa told me that she noticed their auntâs garments were quite see-through. Her pubic hair and the dark circle around her nipples was clearly visible as she sat on the edge of the bed facing the girls. Alyssa noticed that as he read his scriptures, the new uncle kept touching himself and there was a VERY noticeable protuding part in his garment bottoms. Â
The girls watched as the couple knelt beside the bed and said prayers. They expected the lights would go off after prayers. When the couple finished praying, they leaned toward each other and kissed. And they kissed and kissed and then they touched each other and their hands were going all over each other and inside their garments. The uncle pulled their auntâs garmen top off so she was naked above the waist and he leaned forward and started to suck her breasts and nipples.Â
Chelsea told me that she and Alyssa were holding each otherâs hand and when the auntâs top came off and they saw her boobs, they squeezed each otherâs hands so hard it hurt. Then their aunt pulled his garment top off. They kissed and the girls saw their tongues licking and in and out of each otherâs mouth. The couple stood up. Their aunt put her hands inside her husbandâs garment bottoms and got his penis out and was stroking it as they kissed and as he fondled her breasts. He put a hand down the inside of her garments and fingered her. She pulled down her garment bottoms and stepped out of them and tossed them onto their suitcase on the floor. He stepped out of his garment bottoms and they were both completely naked. The girls could hardly breathe seeing two real live naked people that close.
They watched their aunt kneel down and give fellatio to her husband. He lifted her back up and they got onto the bed. The girls couldnât see as well because of the elevation of the bed and so they risked sitting up. It wouldnât have mattered. The couple was so into each other they werenât going to notice the girls in the dark closet. Sitting up, they could see him giving her cunnilingus. After a few minutes she had an orgasm and swore softly like Chelseaâs mom and dad. He kept licking her and soon she came again and she squirted, apparently quite a bit because he said, "You squirted so much this towel is soaked.â Â They heard her giggle and say, âIâve got more where that came from."Â Â
They watched her roll over on top of him and sit atop him and slowly lower herself onto him and move up and down. They saw him reach out and fondle her breasts. Then he said something and she turned herself around, still seated on him. She turned her back to him and lowered herself onto his penis, up and down. fondling her own breasts with one hand and masturbating herself with her other hand. After a couple minutes of that positon, he said something and they stopped having sex. She got off the bed and leaned over the suitcase. She dug around and lifted out what looked like a manâs penis, only bigger. They heard it start to buzz. The two girls watched their new uncle kneel beside their auntâs head and put his penis in her mouth and she sucked and licked him while she held the buzzing penis and rubbed it up and down her pussy. Every now and then she would push it deep inside her pussy in and out and in and out and then sheâd pull it out and rub it up and down the length of her pussy again. All the time she was sucking on his penis and he was fondling here breasts and nipples with one hand and stroking her hair with his other hand.
They heard her say, "Come in my mouth.â Â And they couldnât see clearly, but very soon after that, within a few seconds, he was having an orgasm and they could tell his cum was going in her mouth. She kept sucking and licking him, but slowly. The buzzing penis was now laying on the bed between her legs because she was using her hands to hold his penis and to pump it gently. He said he needed to pee. They heard their aunt say, âI have the towel under me. Pee on my breasts, on my pussy if you want.â He said, âI need to pee too much. It will wet the bed.â Â And he got up and went in the bathroom. He left the door open. The girls heard the sound of an adult man peeing into the toilet. They were both amazed at the loudness of the sound and the volume of him peeing. They found it hard not to giggle. They had to cover their mouths as they listened. Their aunt said, âWow you really did have to go.â
Their uncle came back to the bed and laid on top of their aunt. They kissed and then he got down between her legs again and used the buzzing penis to go in and out of her pussy while he also licked and kissed her. She had two more orgasms and they heard the wet sloshing sound of her squirting. Then, he laid on top of her and had intercourse with her and he had another orgasm. They laid together like that for several minutes and whispered to each other. The girls werenât sure if it was over or not. Then the aunt and uncle both rolled over and she got up and took the towel into the bathroom and turned on the sink. He followed her into the bathroom and the girls heard him pee again. The girls scrambled out of their hiding place and back into bed.
That night they were 10 years old, almost 11 and they had just watched an explicitly graphic a sexual encounter between a man and woman. Laying in bed Chelsea said she was thinking of a millions things, trying to take it all in. She remembers saying to Alyssa, âI think that penis thing is a vibrator.â  Alyssa said, âI think so.â And Alyssa reminded Chelsea, âDo you remember what I said to you then?â Chelsea remembered. She told me, âYou said, âChels, I donât want to wait until Iâm married to have sex with a boy.ââ Chelsea was quiet. She said, âBut you could get pregnant.â Alyssa said, âNot if you use birth control." Â
Chelsea asked how that worked. Alyssa explained what little she knew about a condom and about birth control pills and about a thing called the morning after pill. Â Chelsea told me that she remembers telling Alyssa, "I think I want to try it before Iâm married too. It looks really fun Lissâ Â Alyssa said, âI wonder who I can do it with.â Â Chelsea didnât answer. She says that in her mind right then, she saw Alyssaâs younger brother who was less than a year younger then the girls. Two years later, when the girls were 12, almost 13, they got 12 year old Marcus in bed with them and they both gave him their virginity that day using a condom they stole from Alyssaâs momâs hidden drawer in her nightstand where the girls discovered that she also kept her own smaller, but smooth black metal vibrator.
But this was two years earlier. They had just watched their aunt and uncle have sex. They spied two of the next three nights while they were visiting. The second night they saw the couple share sixty-nine. The third night they saw the uncle wet on their auntâs breasts and on the thick bush between her legs. They watched him put on a condom and have anal intercourse. They listened to the conversation between the couple. They heard their aunt say, âThe first time you went in my butt before we were married, I didnât like it.â And their uncle said, âIâm glad you let me keep trying. Just like you kept trying to let me cum in your mouth after our first date.â And their aunt said âI had to be better than the two girls you let give you oral sex before your mission. I wasnât going to let your high school crush be the only girl who ever let you cum in her mouth.â And their uncle said, âWell, I knew I had to be better than the guy youâd been dating when we met. If he could make you cum more than once, then I wanted to be able to make you cum more than once.â Â She said, âYouâre the best lover Iâve had in my life.â He laughed and said, âIâm the best of five?â Â And she punched him and said, âIâve only been with three other guys and you know it.â Â He said, âWhat about that Scott guy?â Â She punched him again and said, âIt doesnât count. All I did was give him a blow job. He didnât do anything for me. He never got inside me. And their aunt teased her husband and said, "And besides, Iâm not the one who had sex with someone on my mission. And he said, "Iâm seriously lucky we didnât get caught and that she didnât get pregnant. That would have totally screwed up our lives.â And their aunt said, âIâm glad you didnât get caught. Iâm glad Iâm the one who caught you instead.â Â And the girls heard their uncle say, âIâm glad Iâm the one who got you.â Â And their aunt said, âMake me cum again.â And the girls watched him use the vibrator and his mouth to make her cum and squirt for the third time that night. The girls learned SO much in those three nights. They received an amazing education, not the least important was the information that their aunt and uncle who were both returned missionaries and active in the Church, had sex together before they were married with each other and with other people as well.
On the morning after the first time they watched their aunt and uncle, when the couple had left the house to drive somewhere, the girls sneaked into the room and found the vibrator in the suitcase. They locked themselves in the bathroom and turned on the ceiling fan to make a covering noise. They turned on the vibrating penis and took turns trying it on themselves, rubbing it up and down their pussies. The vibrations were the strongest feelings they had ever experienced between their legs. That was the day that Alyssa had her first âfullâ orgasm. It happened the second time she took a turn with the vibrator. The feelings built quickly and without knowing what was happening, a climax swept through her body. Alyssa laughed and told me that as soon as she caught her breath after that first and surprise ârealâ orgasm, she looked at Chelsea and said, âFuck, Chels!â Chelsea realized quickly what had happened to Alyssa. She wanted it to happen to her too. Chelsea tried twice more to get an orgasm using the vibrator, but it didnât happen for her. It felt great, but that was as much as she got from it.
They werenât able to âborrowâ the vibrator again before the weekend was over and the aunt and uncle left Sunday to go back to Rexburg to school. Alyssa didnât have another orgasm for several months. It was when they found the stash in Alyssaâs momâs night stand that they found her vibrator and used it on each other and Chelsea had her first orgasm, with Alyssa rubbing the vibrator up and down Chelseaâs pussy. And then Chelsea took a turn and rubbed it against Alyssa. Alyssa was getting close and she took hold of the vibrator and guided Chelesaâs hand and Alyssa had her own orgasm as well. They started borrowing the vibrator when they could and they had orgasms that way. Within a month of finding Alyssaâs momâs vibrator, they each started having orgasms from cunnilingus and from fingering and then from rubbing against pillows and blankets. Within a month they were both having orgasms whenever they wanted. They had learned the skill.
The day they took the vibrator from their aunt and uncleâs suitcase, they also found condoms and they took two, one of each kind. They opened them and investigated what a condom was like. They got a large carrot from the refrigerator and put the condom on it. The carrot was fat, but the condom still fit somewhat loosely. They rubbed it against themselves. That was the first time they tried to insert something into their vaginas. Months later, using lube from Alyssaâs momâs night stand they both penetrated themselves with Alyssaâs momâs vibrator when they were 11. Chelsea bled more than Alyssa. They were both having periods by that time. It was between her periods, but Chelsea used a tampon for three days. Alyssa hardly bled at all. Because it had hurt, Chelsea might have not tried again if she and Alyssa hadnât influenced each other to do new things. Chelsea tried penetration again and again and she was quickly glad she hadnât given up. She liked the feeling of putting something inside her and moving in and out as she rubbed her clit. She soon figured out that her favorite orgasm was when she had a climax while something was inside of her at the same time.
When they started having orgasms, both girls started masturbating almost every day, usually they did it each night when they went to bed. It was very quickly the thing they did to go to sleep.
Just before their 13th birthdays, they showed Alyssaâs brother Marcus an especially erotic, elegant porn video of a young couple having intercourse. They told Marcus they wanted to learn what it was like and they wanted him to do it with them. He was 12 and horny and the girls didnât have to ask him twice. They made him wear a condom. Marcus was quite well-endowed already and the condom fit snug enough. He was old enough that he had masturbated and was ejaculating. It was easy for the girls to get him inside them because they had been penetrating themselves with vibrators and with other things for a while. They enjoyed intercourse and had Marcus do various positions with them. Marcus came very quickly, but he also got erect again quickly. The girls learned that a boy has to take a bit of a break after he has an orgasm and they also learned that a boy isnât able to have as many orgasms as they could have.Â
They had him give them oral sex and it wasnât good at all. They gave him oral sex and he came a little bit in Chelseaâs mouth. She barely got a taste and Alyssa was even jealous. So they got Marcus again the next day and he came a full load in Alyssaâs mouth. She was less enthusiastic about it than Chelsea. Chelsea gave Marcus oral sex and got him to cum again, after a lot of trying and almost ten minutes of fellatio. Even though it was his second orgasm, he ejaculated a lot more into Chelseaâs mouth than the previous day. It was âokâ for Chelsea. She said she liked it better when he only came a little in her mouth. The girls decided it was something a girl needed to practice and to figure out.
About a month later, they remembered anal sex and they got Marcus to do that with them. Marcus wanted to have sex a lot but the girls werenât as interested once they had satisfied their initial curiosity of trying it. They wanted each other more and they didnât have enough opportunities to be with each other. Marcus kind of intruded into their own lovemaking. So, Marcus didnât happen too often with them. Marcus started having sex with one of his friendâs 14 year old sister a few months later and he stopped pestering Chelsea and Alyssa as much.
Even though it wasnât frequent, Marcus and Alyssa and Chelsea he three had sex at different times up until Chelsea went on her mission. They did a threesome a week before Chelsea entered the MTC and Chelsea had intercourse with him the morning she went to the MTC. Alyssa told me that she had sex with Marcus after she got married and while Chelsea was on her mission up until three days before Marcus entered the MTC for his mission. I asked her why she didnât do it with him the night before he sent to the MTC and she said he had two other girls he wanted to sleep with those nights.
When Alyssa got married and Chelsea left on her mission, Chelsea and Alyssa had both had three male partners other than Marcus and other than Alyssaâs husband. They also shared Alyssaâs husband starting before Alyssa and he got married.Â
Chelsea and her fiance are sexually active. They will be married in the Provo City Center temple in 2020. Chelsea hasnât yet told her fiance about the sexual relationship with Alyssa and with Alyssaâs husband. She told me that she may never tell him. He doesnât know sheâs sexually active with other people than him. She may never tell him that either. She plans to ontinue to have sex with Alyssa and Alyssaâs husband and probably an occasional other partner.
I asked the two ladies to tell me the naughtiest thing theyâve done. Alyssa said that the naughtiest thing is probably something they have talked about doing, but havenât done yet. I asked, âWhat?â Chelsea told me that the two of them have talked about Chelsea getting pregnant from Alyssaâs husband at some point and having a baby with him.