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Brief warning about my House of the Dragon OC:
Rhagerys Targaryen (son of Daemon Targaryen; Name is pronounced: Rage-air-es)
The story may be put on the internet. It will be a four part series. I have written all of Part 1 but the epilogue. I have started Part 2 and am currently working on Chapter 16. The story as a whole is a heavy WIP.
TW with how the relationship is between father and son. If that is not something you care for, either leave or ignore it. I also rarely, if ever, speak on it anymore. But there are some posts.
My HotD OMC
Rhagerys Targaryen
Face Claim
Rhagerys/Aemond
Rhagerys/Daemon
My HotD OMC Basics
Other OCs
My GoT OMC (Mordryn Ambrowest)
Mordryn/Sansa
Mordryn/Lancel
My Saltburn OMC (Conan Forst)
Conan/Michael
My Caught Steal OMC (Ferdinand Ström)
Ferdinand/Russ
My Death of Bunny Munro OMC (Jasper Rossini)
Jasper/Bunny
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hello âš i donât know if youâve answered this before but whatâs rhagerysâs relationship with alicent like?
Hi. Thank you for the ask. đ
I think I did ponder on Rhagerys and Alicent way back when I was still fleshing out who Rhagerys was and where I was steering his story. But the Rhagerys and Alicent relationship now is going to be very different from how I thought it would be a good year and a half ago.
I did tell another mutual, @karpowskaja, that Rhagerys would almost forget that Alicent exists. Like Aemond would mention his mother and Rhagerys will think, âOh, right, you have a mother.â This is where I'm going to point out that I've been researching mental illnesses and have come to the conclusion that Rhagerys definitely has Intermittent Explosive Disorder and Narcissistic Personality Disorder. Could he have others? Probably. I'm still researching.
I will say that I donât see Rhagerys and Alicent interacting very much, if at all in Part 2. But that more than likely will change once I get to Part 3. At the same time Rhagerys has such a warped view on the adult women in his life that if/when he and Alicent interact alone it would be odd/strained. He has put his mother and caregiver on pedestals; they're untouchable in his mind. He adored Laena in a way that was part puppy crush and just a happiness that he has his sisters because of her. He truly liked Rhaenys as a child but that soured once he turned sixteen. To the point he borderline detests her yet respects her in the same breath. He loathes Rhaenyra for bringing Jace and Luke into his familyâhonestly if Rhaenyra just had Joffrey, Rhagerys would be very different towards her, welcome her even, treat her quite decently.Â
And Alicent? Before his family goes to Kingâs Landing, the only memory he has of her is Driftmark. A desperate woman brandishing a dagger. He vaguely recalls it was for Aemond but at the time he was twelve and his mind was on the realization that Velaryon boys were bastards. There was just too much going on for Rhagerys, at that young age, to truly make a coherent thought on a woman he saw for less than a day and wouldnât even think about for another six years.
So, Rhagerysâs relationship with Alicent when he is eighteen and staying at Kingâs Landing for a month and a half can be described simply as just huge indifference. She doesnât really register to Rhagerys the majority of the time he is there. I have thoughts on why but I canât commit to them until I start writing that part. It does mostly boil down to they would have no reason to interact and also Rhagerys will become focused on Aemond.
But I have written down that Rhagerys is in Kingâs Landing when Viserys dies. That heâs a guestâprisonerâand attends Aegonâs coronation. So, there will be a one-on-one conversation between him and Alicent. Like maybe when Aemond is out looking for Aegon that would be a perfect moment for Alicent and Rhagerys to talk. What that may consist of? I can't say. Time will tell when the scene happens and where my writing takes Rhagerys. I do have a feeling that it will not go over well, for either of them. And then there's the time Rhagerys will be at King's Landing when Rhaenyra takes it. I feel there will be a form of disdain from Rhagerys's side and uncertainty from Alicent.
But yeah, Rhagerys and Alicent are two people that would never interact unless forced to. Rhagerys just doesn't care about Alicent. And Alicent? She sees Rhagerys as Daemon's sonânothing more or nothing less. I can't say she's afraid of Rhagerys when she sees him six years after Driftmark but over that month and a half she will see with her own eyes what he is capable of. And a form of fear will settle into the core of her body.
A Footnote:
Alicent will see a shift in Aemond and know it's because of Rhagerys. She will surmise it's Rhagerys's influence. And in her mind just it would be how Daemon was with Rhaenyra. Which will make Alicent want to resink her claws into Aemond. Just as Daemon will want resink his own claws into Rhagerys when they're back on Dragonstone.
Like in my mind Rhagerys and Aemond will be as this painting of "Romeo and Juliet" by Sergio Cupido leading up to and during the Dance.
Except it would have multiple hands of the same person gripping onto each of them. Those hands belong to the two people that both Rhagerys and Aemond love deeply and have beyond unhealthy relationships with. Daemon and Alicent. And I think it will be such a struggle for Rhagerys and Aemond to fight the bond they've relied on for the majority of their life with the two people they love deeply. But they'll have to in order to be with the person they feel their hearts and souls are tethered to.
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"He's assuming control of the family," Mitchell says.
"Aemond's trying to read between the lines, see if there is an ulterior motive there," Mitchell tells Entertainment Weekly. "When I read it in the script for the first time, I just thought, 'Oh, that's something. Quite out there.' I kind of saw it coming with everything that I've explored with Aemond and his relationship with Alicent."
The Derby-born English actor, also known for Saltburn and Wuthering Heights, says Cooke "really looked after me in that scene" and notes how they tried different variations during filming, in terms of the length of the kiss and what their eyes were doing. The take that made the cut was Aemond's eyes closed and Alicent's stunned, watering eyes open.
"In Aemond's head, it's like he's assuming control of the family," Mitchell says. "I always think of Ray Winstone from Scum [the 1979 British prison drama from director Alan Clarke]. It's like, 'I'm the daddy now.' He's the new leader. I think it leaves the question of, What is the relationship gonna be with Alicent going forward?"
"He's somebody that was traumatized at an early age by his brother by taking him to a brothel long before his brain could probably process what was happening," Condal reflects. "As these things do, that trauma then manifests a certain way in his behavior as an adult. While I don't think that Aemond is necessarily in love with his mother, I don't think he's able to separate the feelings that he has for her from these other male feelings that he experiences."
Mitchell quotes a familiar African proverb: "The child who is not embraced by the village will burn it down to feel its warmth."
"Growing up, [kids] need that unconditional love from people to develop a balanced view of themselves," the actor says. "And Aemond's never really felt like he ever had that love from anyone, really. So he really doesn't know how to express affection.... Maybe there's a bit of Oedipus complex in there, as well."
"It's a further commentary on Alicent and her own equipped-ness to raise children at such a young age," Condal says. "We all know that Alicent didn't do a great job as a mom, but who would have in that situation where you got groomed by your father and married off to a much older man at such an early age?"
So, yes, the kiss is a shocking moment, Condal acknowledges, "but it's really meant to demonstrate how, even though this is a character who seems entirely together and sure of himself at all times, this is a traumatized person that doesn't have the well-adjusted underpinnings of a modern character who is raised in a society that understands there are things that you can expose children to and there are things that they should not be exposed to until they're older."
The way not only they used Alicent trauma for that kiss with Alicent but also Aemondâs trauma because Alicent has basically use the same tactic as Otto plus his trauma for Aegon bringing him to a brothel at 13 and having a grown ass woman like Sylvie to touch him.
I think there's a lot to be said about Aemond's issues.
The Kiss
It's very easy to say that it's Aemond's fault. He is the one that kissed Alicent. He made the move. But I think there's a lot more to it--more than people will look into. A lot will be quick to write it off and take it at face value, but there's so much more to it.
The kiss is a culmination of things.
And many of these things are Alicent's doing. We need to remember that Aemond is like, 17? 18? And while it's easy to say 'even at 17 he should know not to kiss his mommy, that is weird,' but we should also remember that incest in the Targ family is a thing.
I know that parent/child incest isn't explored (you cannot tell me it hasn't happened, but it isn't explored) and while it's very much frowned upon--it is very easy for wires to cross.
I think that Alicent created this crossing herself. Wether intentional or not, she's still the adult that set it up. She parentified him from a young age, relied on him, cast him in the position of husband almost because she couldn't rely on anyone else.
She leaned on Aemond. She confided in him. She created this deep need for her affection--and it's a thing she has used to control him.
More often than not, if a child has these feelings for their parent, it is the parents fault.
I think that in the moment of the kiss, it is Aemond reaching for the only comfort he can. He wants to show her that he loves her. (it may be the wrong way, but it's still seems very much a comfort thing).
Sometimes, in real life, a parent creates the framework around the child and sets it up so that the child is the one who acts first. The child is the one who reaches. The child is the one who 'chose' to 'deepen' the relationship. They do so in an effort to make it seem as though it's the child own choice and that because it's their own choice, then they as the parent is not in the wrong.
But it is still the parents fault. They created that.
I think the same is said for this, though Alicent is unintentional in it. And while unintentional and very obviously horrified by it, she does nothing. (Yes, I also think it's a fawn response on her behalf). But I still think that Alicent is as much at fault for it.
And of course, yes, Aemond can also carry the blame. I'm not trying to pin all the blame on Alicent because she's a woman and because Aemond can do no wrong. Aemond has done plenty wrong and will for sure do even more.
But I can't help but to sympathise for him. And Alicent too. I think they're both victims of a vicious cycle of grooming and abuse.
It kind of reminds me of Lestat the Vampire.
In that show they're currently dealing with Lestats incestuous relationship with his mother. He justifies it. He excuses it. He believes it's his choice. And still, clearly, it has an effect on him. Still--it very much stems from his mother. She's still at fault. (Even more so than Alicent)
fascinated with the people saying that aemond reaching out to kiss alicent is mischaracterization on alicentâs part and not something integral to aemondâs character that has been established in their relationship and speculated on by the fandom since the driftmark ep. 10-year-old aemond stepping up to defend his mother when viserys wouldnât to fill the whole of protector to his children and wife is not supposed to be set aside. aemond going back to sylvi after aegonâs coronationâsomeone who notedly looks a lot like his motherânot to have sex but to simply be held and comforted, something that alicent does not give him, means something. just like aemond being shown time and time again to get jealous of the numerous relationships his mother nurtures, platonic or not, including most notoriously her devotion for rhaenyra, her affection for criston, and the attention aegon demands.
maybe itâs not bad writing. maybe youâve just not been paying attention.
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