I am so fed up of "infantilising"
The real infantilisation is people writing Shane and Ilya as teenagers, like 14/15, but portraying them like they're 8.

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I am so fed up of "infantilising"
The real infantilisation is people writing Shane and Ilya as teenagers, like 14/15, but portraying them like they're 8.

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I am so fed up of "infantilising"
Before this fandom I've never come across people expecting fic to be routinely tagged as happily ever after

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Writing tip: replace any instance where you say "which made x do y"
If Edvin Ryding is cast as Luca, I'd like them to make him Swedish and have this exchange:
"...the Swiss kid..."
"I'm Swedish..."
(or keep him Swiss and it's the other way around)
People who rock up to the self checkout before I've even had the chance to pick up my bags turn me into my mother.
"Would you be as quick in my grave?!"
With, naturally, lots of discussion around being closeted (particularly being closeted while in a relationship) in the fandom, it's hard not think about it a lot. It's a complicated topic but it's definitely one that's worth thinking about, and considering what kind of moral value we place on being closeted or being out.
And I just think...when two closeted people are in a relationship, it's not ok to basically be like "it's fine to be closeted when I want to be, but as soon as I want to come out, it means it's not ok for you to be closeted, you have to put in the work to meet me where I am, on my timeline".
It is ok for someone to decide they want to come out and that they don't want to be in a relationship with someone who isn't ready for that. It is ok for someone to decide they want to remain closeted, and to choose that over being in a relationship with someone who wants to be out β even if people end up with hurt feelings or broken hearts or resentment or anger that the other person couldn't meet them where they are. Choosing to remain closeted isn't the morally inferior choice.
I also just kind of think there's a difference between like...what's an objectively wrong thing to do, and what hurts someone's feelings and is something your friends will commiserate with you about. If your friend's partner breaks up with them, you might spend time with them saying "yeah, what a dick! How could they do that to you, you're amazing" because they're your friend. You might feel/be obligated to put their partner down because you support your friend. But that doesn't mean their partner has done something objectively, morally wrong. Their friends are probably going "that's understandable, it wasn't working out, sorry you felt you had to end it".
That's not to say that someone who wants to remain in the closet can never be in the wrong when they're in a relationship. It's not fair to keep promising that it will happen one day, for example, and continually kick the can down the road or go back on promises without making a real effort to get there. I also think it's fair to say that if you are closeted and in a relationship with someone who doesn't want to be, you should be very careful about assuming they're happy with that arrangement and about what you ask of them (although, ultimately, it is up to them to end the relationship if they're unhappy, imo). ETA: I feel I should also add that I don't think it's OK to agree to being in the closet/in a secret relationship with someone while continuing to resent them for it or hold it over their head.
Anyway...that's what I think. I don't know, I don't like the way I see a lot of people talk about being closeted. I know I'm trying to look at it in a quite logical way and it's not a neat and tidy thing, though. Obviously it's very complicated and there are huge feelings involved, and there's a high chance of someone getting hurt when there's a mismatch in a couple between someone wanting to be out and someone not wanting to. But I also think it's the kind of big dilemma that can happen with lots of other relationship questions: do we want to get married? do we want children? would you move across the country for me? are you willing to support me while I slog my way through medical school? are we capable of combining our finances? The answers to any one of these questions can conflict with each other and might mean the relationship isn't meant to be. And that's sad. But it doesn't automatically mean one person is right and the other is wrong.
I think every now and then we should all say to ourselves "they're literally millionaires"
Just as a reminder

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Realising that saying "ho-ly" is not just a Shoresy thing but maybe actually a Canadian thing...
Reading a fic where Shane has dated other people and he broke up with someone because, although they were both closeted when they started dating, the other guy wanted to come out.
And I don't like how it's framed like (or at least, some other readers have interpreted it as) Shane is morally in the wrong for ending the relationship. Of course, the other guy would have a right to feel hurt by the end of the relationship. But why is it fine for them both to be in the closet, but then not fine (as in, not morally correct) for Shane not to want to come out as soon as his partner decides he wants to?
Like obviously it's not fine in that their priorities and what they want are now in conflict, and they're no longer compatible if his partner wants to be out, not just as a gay man but also as a gay man in a relationship with Shane. If they truly want different things and there's no compromise, that unfortunately means the end of the relationship, and that's sad. It's even understandable, to an extent, that his partner might be angry about it and frustrated that Shane can't meet him where he is. But them wanting their relationship to be two different things is why it's not ok, not specifically Shane not wanting to come out...if that makes sense.
It wasn't clear exactly how things went down with the end of their relationship or even if his partner was actually asking him to come out (kind of light on the details because it was a past relationship) so it might be that the intention was to say Shane acted poorly at the end of the relationship, rather than ending it in a responsible way. (And it might even be that the intention is just that Shane is self-hating about it, rather than that being the message the author is actually trying to send.) But anyway. That kind of just rubbed me up the wrong way slightly.
Every now and then I am just like...I don't know what Shane is meant to do to "appreciate" Ilya's "sacrifice".
I don't know. I'm too emotionally stunted or too inexperienced with relationships or something. I just don't get it.
Is Shane in debt to Ilya until he makes an equally big gesture? Is he required to come out when Ilya wants to, to pay him back?
Should he never fight with Ilya? Should he always give him what he wants? Should he be sending him flowers and chocolates all the time? Is he meant to be rewarding Ilya in some way or showering him with love or what?
Genuinely, what does it mean? What is Shane supposed to be doing?
And also, while I agree with the idea that adult relationships often involve making sacrifices (including along the lines of moving countries, career changes, income step-downs or even pausing a career to raise children) it's interesting that I keep seeing this argument in relation to all the changes Shane faces at the end of the second book, from the same people who talk so much about how Ilya made such a huge sacrifice that Shane seemingly needs to repay. I personally don't give much of a fuck about the stuff that Shane chooses/that happens to Shane, probably partly because I'm not really invested in the hockey of it all (boohoo you're earning a few million less than you did before, now you're only earning 8 million a year or whatever) but for those who do care about it, this argument gets brought up to dismiss people's concerns all the time. Either they both made choices to serve their relationship which were fine and practical and not always balanced but it all shakes out in the end with their happiness as a couple being the ultimate goal, because that's the nature of relationships, or it's a tit-for-tat tally where one owes the other for making a huge sacrifice. It can't be both.
And another thing...people often seem to encourage taking Shane at his word (saying to Yuna that he's fine and dandy and Ilya made big sacrifices he didn't recognise, while just coming off a big fight), while also expecting that Shane doesn't take Ilya at his, and recognising that maybe Ilya doesn't always mean what he says.
And another nother thing...I do agree that what is unfair and unbalanced is the fact that Shane comes out and it means they have to be more cautious about Ilya coming out in case it means people put things together. But I honestly think that's just poor writing, set up to create more conflict, and I will never understand why Shane chooses to come out. It makes no sense for his character (had he chosen to come out to Hayden and JJ alone, I might buy into it), it increases his paranoia and it means that he gets to do something that Ilya actually seems to want to do way more than him. And on top of that, we don't really get any real sense of his team's reaction (I don't think?)...and I hate the thing of 'so many people in Shane's life know while none in Ilya's do' when most people know because they guessed or accidentally found out, and (sorry to say it) Ilya doesn't have anyone in his life to tell. I only hope Jacob Tierney can make it believable. (having said that, if I remember correctly, he's actually way more bothered by the idea of Ilya telling Troy about their relationship than he is about Ilya coming out to Troy, so while I'm not defending his reaction, I'm also not sure Shane is actually that bothered by the coming out part of it, especially to one person...and I can kind of see why he might be wary that it's this guy Ilya hasn't even known that long who used to be a bully)
one fact about me is that for some reason I consider the thumbs up emoji reaction to texts to be an extremely aggressive response. I know this is irrational but someone does this π to my text and Iβm immediately like oh so I should go fuck myself then??? π I should drive off a fucking bridge????
Every now and then I am just like...I don't know what Shane is meant to do to "appreciate" Ilya's "sacrifice".
I don't know. I'm too emotionally stunted or too inexperienced with relationships or something. I just don't get it.
Is Shane in debt to Ilya until he makes an equally big gesture? Is he required to come out when Ilya wants to, to pay him back?
Should he never fight with Ilya? Should he always give him what he wants? Should he be sending him flowers and chocolates all the time? Is he meant to be rewarding Ilya in some way or showering him with love or what?
Genuinely, what does it mean? What is Shane supposed to be doing?

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You do stumble on some gruesome stuff sometimes though :-/
Came across someone in the family tree who was in the Army Cyclist Corps in WWI.
Sure. Why not.