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Snape running to the boys' bathroom to save Draco when Harry sectumsempra'd him like:
"I've made the unbreakable fucking vow and now I'll die because of Harry fucking Potter?!?"
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Any fanās āforgivenessā or lack thereof regarding Snape is irrelevant. Snape didnāt wrong you. Even if Snape were real, you have no authority to forgive him or not because he didnāt do anything to you.
he's a fictional character of course he didn't do anything to me what is this š
Minerva, Severus and Harry ā”
Tbh I feel like most of this fandom is either
Extremely on Snape's side and defends everything he did wrong
Or
Extremely on the marauders side and defends everything they did wrong
But like both of them aren't that good tho? Snape did some questionable things and so did Sirius and James and Remus and Peter and Lily.
The story is told with some of Harry's thoughts so of course the marauders are going to be glorified and Snape hated so you kinda need to just put the facts on the table
I don't think the marauders are better than snape and I don't think he's better than the marauders
Tbh the hp fandom has gotten pretty toxic lately and started shipping kids with adults and sexualizing alot of kids and it's just not good
But idk
you're right in that the general HP fandom (including marauder stans) have this kind of black and white attitude when analyzing characters and their motives, and tend to oversimplify everything and everyone into terms of bad and good.
which is why i've made sure to keep clear from them and only participate in the snapedom, a place with people who think critically and don't sugarcoat, not even snape. they/we always point out snape's faults and how could we not, when they're what make us love him even more
and i'm not saying this out of bias. snapedom is genuinely the only part of the fandom where i've seen people be fair and not use strawman arguments or bullshit fanon theories
antis: I hate Snape because he bullied students
also antis: Snape, as a student, deserved to be bullied

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severus snape and the ongoing theme ofĀ āinsufficientĀ masculinityā (aka homophobia/transphobia)
snape is introduced at a young age wearing aĀ āwomenās blouseā, which petunia uses to mock him
snape, when appearing to neville as a boggart, wears nevilleās grandmotherās clothing when neville uses riddikilus on him
duringĀ āsnapeās worst memoryā, james turns snape (who he sees as a potential romantic rival) upside down and strips him/humiliates him in an attempt to impress lily, and after snape yells at lily and calls her a mudblood, lily covers up her (justifiably) hurt feelings by commenting on his dirty underwear
snapeās patronus, confirmed by jkr to be a symbol ofĀ ātrue love, love everlastingā, unlike jamesā stag, mirrors lilyās patronus by being a doe (which much of the fandom considers to be a sign of obsession, despite never levelling the same accusations against tonksā wolf patronus mirroring remusā)
most, if not all, of the significantly positive/grounding forces in severusā life are women (eileen, lily, narcissa, mcgonagall)Ā
feel free to add more if u can think of any
-his handwriting was described as feminine -he specialised in potions which is rather feminine due to its connection to cooking -he worked as a spy in a way that i felt was more traditionally feminine (mata hari as opposed to james bond) -the nickname his bullies gave him referenced crying which is something boys arenāt allowed to do
Heās not an attacker, the sum total of his interactions with the marauders are defensive, and aggressive defensive, rather than offensive - which is the opposite of the āmasculineā trait of overt and confrontational aggression
-he is terrible at sports and not only that, the girl he wants to impress laughs at him -he often assists with healing. slughorn who is a fellow potions master doesnāt -he has little control over his emotions which isnāt strictly feminine but compare it to other male charactersā outbursts and you see thereās this element of āheās overreacting.ā
- Speaking of healing: when he creates his first confrontational offensive spell (sectumsempra), its not only āoverkillā in the spirit of āoverreactingā, but he creates a spell that heals the wounds immediately and that spell is described as a lullaby
-we never see him use the full force of his powers -thematically speaking if sirius is a stand in for james then severus is a stand in for lily -he is more like his mother than his father
- taking into account that masculine = overt confrontational violence, loud bragging egos and showy heroic deeds, and the opposite is humility, quietly bearing burdens, silent suffering; the fact that snape doesnāt want anyone to know about his heroic deeds. That he was a succeaaful spy until his dying breath, and his last act was teaching/passing on knowledge, instead of slaying the metaphorical dragon.
Snapeās use of potions and poisons is a more traditionally feminine form of violence, as female assassins and characters were more likely to use poison to kill than males, who were more likely to use guns and swords.
If you go by the freudian/jungian interpretation of the wand as a phallic symbol, Snapeās connection to the cauldron is a yonic/vulvic symbol.
Considering the connections between Harry Potter and the Arthurian legends (a prophecied hero who is guided by a wise old man bands together with his loyal friends to defeat a massive evil with the use of a legendary sword), the characters who are the clearest parallel to Snape are the Ladies of the Lake, as they both serve the good guys, kill the wise old leader, and give the sword to the hero. Also the multiple versions of the Lady of the Lake mirror the multiple faces of Snape, as different Ladies of the Lake were evil and hindered the good guys, while others were extremely helpful to them.
sirius and james are both threatened by snape before they are old enough to be jealous of his connection to lily. many times boys donāt fit traditionally masculine roles are ridiculed by their peers, esp their peers who feel their masculinity isĀ āthreatenedā in any way by the nonconforming boy. james and siriusā vitriol toward snape seem to be more of that nature esp when theyre young
thereās a lot of focus on snapeās looks - eg that his most recognizable trait is his hair, which seems odd to focus on
speaking of hair, his hair length
has to beĀ ārescuedā by jamesĀ during the werewolf incident, and damsels are often seen as feminine
often described in ways more coded to the feminineĀ
itās so interesting to me that these kinds of things get internalized to the point where most readers wouldnāt even necessarily pick up on them overtly. and yet, snape is in the traditional position a nonconforming male character often falls into - the bully, the bad guy, the evil person.stereotypes are often cast as a villain and itās esp common for male villain characters to be androgynous. heās done nothing worse than many of the other evil characters and yet it is is snape who is so thoroughly villified by fandom, snape who is the fandom punching bag.
and i do wonder if this underlying tension of snapeās gender and sexuality, that we recognize these nuances in snapeās performance of gender without necessarily evaluating them at a conscious level, contributes to that. thatās not to say that everyone who dislikes snape does so because of that, but just in a general sense of how snape is turned to as the paragon of evil in a book where characters like umbridge, the malfoys, voldemort, pettigrewĀ etc all exist⦠it seems directed at him for a specific reason, somehow. not just that heās done bad things, but a particular kind of loathing that seems much higher than demanded for the actual level of his crimes.
anyway, sorry im rambling. but yes, this is an excellent list and a really interesting way to read snapeās character, i love it.Ā
Snapeās gender presentation is endlessly fascinating to me.
I donāt have anything major to add, just a few add-ons to points already raised.
- Ā To add to @prosnapebloggingās point about Freud/Jung and wands as a phallic symbol/cauldrons as vulvicā¦Snape dismissed āfoolish wand wavingā, and waxed lyrical about the cauldron instead.
- Ā To add to @severusdefenderās point about cauldrons and cooking, itās also that witches - as opposed to wizards - are traditionally depicted with a cauldron, and stirring pots.
- Ā To add to @lamentthebardās observation about the blouse, it isnāt just that Snape is wearing womenās clothing, but that a longstanding insult in the UK is calling a boyĀ āa big girlās blouseā - suggesting that the boy is behaving in anĀ āinappropriateā way, by not being manly enough.
-Ā Every time he tries to speak to defend himself, he is interrupted. He never gets to explain what he thinks or means before someone(Dumbledore and Lily for example) interrupts him with their own assumption of events, and then never let him finish. Women typically never get to have a voice and are talked over all the time.
-Ā Occlumency is a form of defense and because it isnāt attention-seeking or aggressive, it could be considered a more feminine role. Snape is so good at it that he fooled Voldemort, who is the most aggressive person in the entire series.
-Ā Snape is the one who is has to brew the Wolfsbane Potion for Lupin. Not Dumbledore, who is a supposedly genius in everything and has more free time on his hands. No, Snape has to take time away from his teaching schedule to make medicine for another person. And not just any person. One of his abusers. He is forced to maintain his abuserās good health all year long and whenever he expresses concern over his abuserās loyalties, heās told heās overreacting. That sounds so much like the female experience.
-Ā Snape wasnāt allowed to expose the Marauders for what Sirius and Remus did. He was sworn to secrecy while the people who almost murdered him got off without any sort of punishment. Silencing female victims of violence is a long-standing tradition of men in power.
That last addition though
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