Addicted 2 Using F1 Drivers &Followers As Lab Rats

Call me anything and use any pronouns. I am not real. Late 20s, and despite what my posting habits may suggest, I am very employed, too employed frankly, so sometimes my asks are way behind

For f1a, I am an Alisha Palmowski (but I hope everyone else does well too) fan and for f1, i am an Alex Albon (and I hope everyone else does incredibly poorly) fan

I will say I was completely thinking about how femininity is seen in the f1 circle, but even in society moc are (exaggeratedly) masculinized and infantalized and/or feminized by that same society despite it being seemingly contradicting. lewis, checo, arvid, yuki, etc. all aren't perceived the same as white drivers. whenever they express any dissatisfaction with their team/car/whatever, they all face racialized masculinization. alex does too. for asian men in red bull it's a bit more complicated, since in society most asian men r seen as nonthreatening, but they're still seen as being irrationally/overly angry with the team, either said by the team themselves or by f1 fans.

now femininity in f1 is also messy because by the media, and even other drivers, it's seen as a negative trait. george, nico r., charles are all called feminine as an insult, but for fans of the drivers, it isn't necessarily something negative. george is generally seen as feminine for his personality (likes shaking things up) and his looks, but like you've said, alex's personality is similar. but one is seen as feminine while he other isn't. which leads me to my next point.

white drivers who aren't necessarily feminine (think oscar, max, lando) are called girls, girlfriends, wives, etc. all the time!! but alex, who isn't doesn't all out reject femininity, isn't. I also don't think he's particularly feminine, but why isn't he afforded the same treatment? which imo just comes off as ppl ignoring his, slightly, feminine qualities simply because he's brown. of course, this could simply do with what circles I'm in, or just that they have different fans, but I thought/think (I'm open to changing my mind) that it is due to his ethnicity. I'll also add that my perspective is different since I'm not asian, I'm hispanic but I'm sick of people thinking one can't be cute or feminine or whatever else simply because of skin color. and also perception of asian men is something that's insanely colorist—the stereotypes against east asian men, south asian men, east asian men, etc. are completely different and biggest difference between these groups is skin color.

I’m afraid you found the wrong person to ask. My knowledge of George is much lower than that of Carlos, Alex, and Lando so I really don’t know off the top of my head in terms of truth. Im also a usamerican and know very little about British politics (tho i have been keeping an eye on the makerfield mp stuff). My tiny thoughts on this as that I understand treating trump as a zoo animal, even though even doing this is harmful. My other tiny thought is that the way certain Western European countries look down on the US often comes from a place of classism and punching down. If usamericans make fun of the way British people say schedule or their “cuisine” and they return with the fact that we are hopeless to watch our children be slaughtered in schools, this is not a sick burn. (To be entirely clear, this stance only holds for highly powerful colonial nations. Literally any other country can and should say whatever the fuck they want about the US, but I’m getting really tired of people in ivory towers mocking things that are terrorizing the lives of minorities in the US). For the main point here though, I don’t have the answers you seek. Others feel free to take this thread and provide answers if you know.

Carbono do fascinate me because sometimes they acts like they've never interacted pre-carlos coming to Williams but they obviously did especially since he and lando and lando and Alex are pretty close. But then they would also be like "do U remember what I called U as a kid? Albondiggas" and it's like it's weird because they don't really act like two guys who've known each other since they were kids. Like with George and Alex and even the 2019 rookies U can tell they are genuinely 1) friends 2) like each other and are close. They have a familiarity with each other that u can't fake. Whereas carbono seem like they've just met each other 5 minutes ago. Like they're such a push and pull pairing. They are Def the most interesting pairing on the grid to me because I genuinely do think they are VERY diff ppl. I feel like the only think they have in common is that they feel they have sometimes to prove and maybe their humour. Also I do really love how Carlos at every chance he gets has managed to somehow make it seem like Alex is hiding this big dark secret (it's bisexuality btw)

Ive been giggling about “it’s bisexuality btw” since the day you sent this in (now so long ago tbh)

The reasons it’s been literal months is because I wanted to see how much they actually were in each other’s orbits in their pre f1 careers and it seems like they actually didn’t have much overlap in terms of being in the same paddock (Carlos progressed much faster and Alex was only in the Red Bull academy for a very short time) so it makes SOME sense that they don’t know each other well but there are def pics of them interacting with other members of the diabolicule or whatever it’s called. I think it becomes weirder the whole “I don’t know that guy” because when Carlos was taking the offer at Williams he kept noting how he didn’t know much about Alex’s driving. This feels like it has to be patently false obviously sometimes they were in different parts of the pack but not all of the times.

Anyway, yeah the carbono dynamic oscillating wildly between “we have never spoken in our lives” to “Carlos and I are in a honeymoon phase and yes we have consummated btw” is so weird to me

I can't speak for Charles because I literally know nothing about nor am I fan so I feel like I can't speak on him and his habits/friends tho I would say his closet friend is by far Pierre and while he gets along w/2019 rookies I think there is a distance between them from just observing the interactions he's has with ppl. But why do ppl think George doesn't like lando??? Like George is most definitely envious of lando winning wdc and jealous of him as he did it before him but also who fucking wouldn't be!!! I bet U Alex and Oscar are also jealous??? But that doesn't mean George and Alex don't like him??? Like I say this as someone who isn't the biggest fan of lando (nothing against him he just isn't really interesting to me) but this idea some George and Alex fans have that they don't like lando anymore just because galex are closer is sooo dumbbbb. Like its so obvious that galex delight in making fun and poking at lando and vice versa. I would say lando is George's favourite fucking victim and George is Alex's. Now I can't speak for lando because I don't know anything about him and for me its harder to tell when he is being sarcastic/joking but he's Def still friend with galex as per his most recent interview speaking fondly of meeting them when younger. But I do think they have kinda drifted/made their friendship more private. I think when George was moved up to Merc, there was a lando quote that pretty much in the lines said that George wasn't as "fun" as he used to be and more serious. Which ik alot of George fans took as an insult and that lando shouldn't have said anything? And ya I think lando has a bit of a foot in mouth problem going on but also was he wrong?? We know once George got to Merc his public image and branding changed. I personally think he chose to make his friendships that he cared about most e.g. Alex more private. Like Im going to give lando the benefit of the doubt cuz he and George and Alex have been friends for a long time and think lando said that from a place of genuine concern and sadness because he's missed how his friend was.

Yeah as someone who generally doesn’t care for lando (but engages in a lot of Lando media bc my partner is lando-pilled) I think it’s weird when people do that thing where they’re like obviously Galex doesnt like Lando… like my impression is Galex is closer than either or both are to Lando, but that in no vague way indicates that they don’t like each other or they aren’t friends. Alex pretty firmly defended lando a few times during the title fight and George loves terrorizing Lando so bad. I think someone else said this and this wasn’t a thought I had on my own (but I genuinely don’t remember), but do you really think George would put his fingers in landos mouth if they weren’t at least somewhat friendly? Bffr

This is one of those times where im probably reading too much into things, but these two (George and Alex) will sometimes start to reveal that they mean something to each other and that they care about and respect each other (I say this in a platonic sense, but interpret however you will) and often when they start down that road, they retreat into making fun of each other. Whether it’s because they don’t like showing their actual friendship to the cameras, or theyre genuinely just authenticity averse, or theyre trying to avoid the narrative that theyre bad competitors for being friends, or maybe they don’t actually mean whatever they’re saying, it seems to occur quite a bit