alastor shady facts

With Alastor, you see the same mechanic on how the fandom treats him:

His canon aversion to intimacy is dismissed as “fixable” or a kind of obstacles to work around

His autonomy is overwritten so a ship can function

His trauma is romanticized instead of respected

His violence and control issues are aestheticized rather than interrogated

He stops being a character and becomes a thing to be used for emotional payoff.

He’s objectified like how many women in fiction are because of his demeanor (I believe that’s way), it's actually really interesting to watch. Alastor’s gentleman-like behavior mirrors a set of expectations that have historically been imposed on women in fiction: perfection in every way

Women in fiction are often expected to be:

Polite

Composed

Emotionally contained

Aesthetically pleasing even in distress

Alastor performs that exact thing:

Constant smile

Controlled speech

Impeccable manners

Emotional restraint even under pressure

Alastor can not have any real uglyness to him that isn't visually pleasing to the audience I’ve seem this with how people constantly compare “pilot” Alastor to “show” Alastor (they're the same person to me) where people often expression how they don't like how “show” Alastor shows more of himself and “pilot” was far more contained and it was harder to truly see his emotions. “Pilot Alastor is praised by some people for being more energetic and enthusiastic even thought in the show they make it known that Alastor is getting more and more tired of working at the hotel, he isn't allowed to actually express that in anyway “We can know that he's annoyed but they shouldn't show that too much, it's unpleasant”.

Because he performs flawless composure, audiences subconsciously assume:

> “He exists to be looked at, not listened to.”

That’s the same expectations female characters fall into.

Moral containment

Women are often expected to be “good victims”:

Suffer quietly

Remain likable

Be redeemable and nurturing despite trauma

Alastor gets shoved into a warped version of this:

His darkness is acceptable only if it’s “cool”

His boundaries are ignored because he’s “charming”

His refusal of romance is framed as denial, not choice

Alastor is not allow to verbally express any real discomfort he feels

His gentlemanliness makes people feel entitled to him.

Emotional labor projection

Another parallel:

Women are often expected to regulate others’ emotions.

With Alastor:

People sometimes project emotional softness onto him

They expect him to “eventually open up”

People expect Alastor to open up without any real justification, as if his comfort and vulnerability are things others are entitled to. He’s expected to feel safe and emotionally available on command, even when he’s given no reason to trust or soften.

*Mind you this is the scene right after Vox forced Alastor to watch him and Val have sex

They want him to be the stable, controlled one in relationships

And humbling him and expecting him to effortlessly take care of himself and others all at the same time

But canon Alastor does not exist to soothe others.

That expectation is imposed on him just like it is on women, but why does this happens specifically to Alastor?

Alastor sits at a crossroads of traits that trigger objectification:

Power without any vulnerability

Elegance without emotional access

Restraint mistaken for consent

Trauma hidden behind competence

When a character refuses to emote on demand, fandom often responds by rewriting them to make them consumable.

That rewriting is gendered even when the character is male.

The irony here is that:

Alastor is one of the few characters whose entire arc is about:

Control

Autonomy

Refusal to be owned

Weaponized politeness

And fandom responds by trying to own him anyway.

When a character:

Is composed

Is desirable

Withholds emotional access

Refuses normative intimacy

They are punished by being objectified.

Now with all this mind

One of the things that makes Alastor such a compelling character is that he withholds from us people wanna know him more. He is polite but not warm, charming but not open, helpful but not selfless. He performs control so well that people forget it is a performance. His smile is constant, his manners are impeccable, his voice never cracks and because of that, audiences often assume he is simple. He looks and acts as if he has everything emotionally together when it far more possible he doesn’t.

Alastor is emotionally blunted, not empty. He feels selectively, inconsistently, and often without clarity. He forms attachments slowly on his own terms, and usually through routine, usefulness, or shared structure rather than intimacy. He values autonomy above almost everything. He does not like being owned, commanded, or morally reframed by others. Even his “kindness” is conditional and deliberate. Nothing about him is accidental.

And yet, despite all of this, fandom consistently treats Alastor as if his interiority is optional.

My comparison to him and how women are treated in fiction becomes unavoidable.

In fiction, women especially composed, polite, emotionally restrained women are often treated less as subjects and more as functions . Their trauma is aesthetic. Their boundaries are negotiable. Their refusal is interpreted as tension rather than a choice. Their restraint is read as availability. They are expected to be perfect, palatable, and ultimately consumable.

Alastor fits that same mold almost too well.

He is gentlemanly. He is controlled. He is aesthetically pleasing. He does not emote “correctly.” He rarely explains himself. And because of that, fandom feels entitled to rewrite him into something more accessible. His lack of interest in romance becomes a challenge. His autonomy becomes something to be overcome. His refusal becomes “he just hasn’t met the right person yet.”

Instead of asking who Alastor is, fandom often asks what he can be used for.

That pattern becomes especially obvious when you look at how he’s handled in ships.

Take Lucifer, for example.

In a lot of radioapple content, Alastor is made subservient emotionally, morally, or literally. He is framed as someone who needs to be put in his place, corrected, commanded, or owned. For a recent example of this the “executioner theory” where Lucifer makes a deal with Alastor that allows him to order Alastor to kill on command, as if Alastor’s entire character arc hasn’t been about resisting ownership and refusing chains. This theory alone full proves my point about how a lot people use and place Alastor in different pairs as a mere accessory. What benefit does Alastor have at all in this scenario and even if there was one can't he just optain it himself especially without being under ownership again.

This dynamic is bizarre on a narrative level, but it’s worse on a thematic one.

Alastor is black, mixed-raced Creole man from the early 1900s. Lucifer is depicted as a white, aristocratic embodiment of old power. When fandom imagines Lucifer commanding Alastor, controlling his violence, or “taming” him, it recreates a racialized power dynamic whether people intend it or not. A powerful Black man’s autonomy is stripped so a white authority figure can be centered as dominant, tragic, or morally superior.

What’s especially telling is that these interpretations often ignore Charlie entirely. A deal where Lucifer controls Alastor’s actions by killing any sinner he commands directly contradicts Charlie’s ideology, her dream, and goes against the overall narrative of Hazbin. But those themes are inconvenient when the goal is a ship, so they’re discarded.

Alastor’s autonomy is sacrificed first.

Instead of Lucifer fans trying to question why Lucifer sees not causing harm as a form of punishment to begin with, they instead jump to trying to fix Lucifers problem cuz “poor him” and instead of taking a moment and wondering why Lucifer has that specific punishment to begin with they come to the conclusion of “Lets use Alastor to fix Lucifers personal “problem””.

With Vox, the treatment shifts but the objectification doesn’t disappear.

In Radiosilence (the one-sided dynamic), Alastor often becomes the unattainable prize. His lack of interest isn’t respected as a boundary; it’s framed as an obstacle. Vox’s obsession is explored, centered, indulged while Alastor’s subjectivity fades into the background. He exists to be wanted. Even tho Alastor presents and how he feels about Vox is the prime reason for the existence of this specific kind of ship Ive only seen few people actually dive into how Alastor would feel or behave in this scenario (even tho its canon now) it is almost always focused on how Vox feels.

In Radiostatic, the problem becomes even clearer. Alastor is frequently aestheticized to the point of abstraction. His femininity stays in this one which for some reason is quite rare as people often remove this trait from Alastor within some ships of him, but they sometimes strip his agency. He’s depicted as something Vox has a status symbol, a beautiful possession, emotional jewelry. In many cases, some radiostatic fans have even admitted to not even liking Alastor at all even tho they full ship this ship. He’s there to make Vox happy, to complete Vox’s narrative, to serve Vox’s emotional arc.

Alastor is no longer a person. He is an accessory.

This mirrors exactly how women in fiction are often treated in shipping spaces: valued for what they provide to another characters rather than who they are themselves.

Alastor’s entire character is built around resisting this exact thing. He does not give emotional access freely because he knows what happens when he does.

In some cases people will excuse Vox’s behaviour even if it's not for a ship by saying “Alastor actually enjoys being stalked he enjoys the harrassment, the assault” this very similar how people would blame and try to excuse similar behave made towards woman not even just in fiction.

And fandom responds to this by forcing access anyways, by rewriting his resistance as desire, reframing his boundaries as a kind of denial, and turning his control into compliance.

It’s honestly a shame, because there are so many thoughtful and interesting ways to explore a character like Alastor, yet so many people default to shallow or outright harmful depictions instead. I’ve seen people dismiss the exploration of (queer)platonic dynamics as boring and even when they don’t say it outright, it often feels like they simply don’t know how to engage with a character like Alastor unless romance or sex is involved.

His identity his refusal of intimacy, his control, his emotional distance could be incredibly fun and challenging to work with, but instead fandom keeps forcing him into amatonormative frameworks that flatten him. Rather than asking what kind of connections Alastor would choose, people focus on reshaping him into something easier to consume. And that, more than anything, feels like such a waste.

I also can’t help but notice that some people pride themselves in their understanding of complex issues like representation, ethics, or specific dynamics making analysis after analysis but when the opportunity arises and if they’re not faced with anything that they personally can not relate to or can not view as surface level, they shut down. They skim the surface, dismiss concerns, or talk over people actually trying to engage, because confronting the topic might force them to confront their own perception. It’s easier to stay comfortable, keep everything flat, and avoid thinking too deeply but doing that only guarantees the same problems keep repeating. The reaction people gave when the conversation of Alastor experiencing racism while alive and how people in this fandom would much rather fight hard to dismiss this idea rather look at how that would effect him and his relationships with others characters was telling, on how they are either ignorant and/or uncomfortable with digging deep into such topic

The fact that this is happening to a male character was actually very confusing to me at first I constantly wondered “what is it about character that makes people treat him like this”. There is more I wish to expand on but Alastor is non-normatively masculine, he's feminine in how he carries himself but he visually masculine enough where his popularity isn't diminished, his racially identity, emotionally restrained, and uninterested in traditional romance. Those are the same traits that have historically made women easier to objectify in fiction.

So, Why is Alastor’s autonomy always the first thing to go?

There something about Alastor that doesn't give him the same amount of privilege that other male character get and i do believe it has to do with even more things than just him having a lot of womanly attributes and once I notice it, I started to notice it everywhere and its very obvious that people are completely unaware of these implications when addressing Alastor but then that would have to bring up another conversation as to why these kinds of interpretation of him is the “default” and and why people don't immediately notice the implications of these depictions.

I could make a second part of this and going into more as to why this happens more maybe

I think she already kinda answered the question lmao

But clearly there’s some complicated family drama that’s gonna happen in season 3 and I assume this will be brought up or revealed cuz during Vel streams during Charlie second interview on tv some sinners point out the lack of Lilith features on Charlie

Now with Alastor this part gets detailed so lock in!!!

In Zoophobia Alastor was the child of one single parent called Malvada which literally means evil, they were the embodiment of evil itself

Malvada was then merged into Alastor character along with another character called Jex who looks similar to Roo’s design

Unfortunately Zoophobia lore and any media relating to it is lost media but there are some scraps that can be found if you search hard enough

Alastor is also said by Viv to be her most consistent character and not much about him has changed

the Structure of Hell, and Why Alastor Could Be Roo’s Child

This theory is built on the idea that Roo is not just another demon or antagonist waiting to be revealed, but something far more foundational to the Hazbin universe. Rather than treating Roo as a character who rules Hell, this framework views her as the underlying force that allows Hell to exist in the form we see it. From that perspective, Alastor’s unusual power, Charlie’s suppressed darkness, and Hell’s recurring imagery all begin to connect in a way that feels intentional rather than coincidental.

Roo is the foundation of Hell itself

Roo’s title, “The Root of All Evil,” A root is not something that commands or gives orders. It exists underneath everything else, feeding and sustaining what grows above it. This framing suggests that Roo is not a demon who chooses evil, but a conceptual source that makes corruption, suffering, and sin possible in the first place.

For anyone confused I don't think Roo has a gender same as how Malvada in Zoohpobia didn't either, despite looking more feminine and referred to that way and I think Roo is the closest being to a God-like being in Hazbin same as their counterpart we see in Season 1

The Seven Deadly Sins represent emotional expressions of evil. Lucifer represents pride. Overlords represent accumulated power. Roo, however, represents the condition that allows all of those things to develop. Evil does not begin with wrath, pride, or lust it begins when harm, obsession, and imbalance are able to take root.

That is why I think Roo is rarely, if ever, depicted as acting directly. Instead, her influence appears embedded into Hell itself: watching eyes in walls and shadows, environments that feel alive, and a sense that Hell is not merely a place but something that observes and responds. Roo does not need to rule Hell because Hell is build on them.

Hell’s Hierarchy Exists Above Roo

One of the strongest pieces of evidence for this theory is how Hazbin portrays Hell’s hierarchy. Lucifer is clearly meant to be the king, the Sins rule their respective rings, and Overlords dominate the social and political landscape of the pride ring. Yet none of these positions explain why Hell is structured around endless cycles of suffering and escalation rather than stability.

Hell feeds on emotional extremity. Violence creates more violence. Trauma creates obsession. Obsession creates power imbalances. These are not traits enforced by a ruler they are traits of an environment designed to already nurture corruption. That environment makes much more sense if Hell itself is rooted in something that passively encourages those conditions rather than actively commanding them.

Roo’s role is not political it's more ecological. They are the soil in which Hell grows from.

Satan, Wrath, and the cult on earth

Martha’s cult chant “Satan!, we return your filthy creatures back to the pits of hell, may The Root of All Evil remained honoured as we continue thy work” is one of the clearest indicators that Roo and Satan are not the same entity. They are invoked together, but separately, implying they work beside each other. And I have to make an assumption that Roo was on earth and started a cult or a cult started around them rather than them doing it themselves.

HELLUVA BOSS - Murder Family // S1: Episode 1 (10:03)

I do believe Satan has some kind of connection and relationship with Roo but I don’t really know how much influence he has but my theory is that most evil actions can be fueled by wrath which is something Roo feeds on thus working with Satan is beneficial

Satan’s canonical role as the King of Wrath: Wrath is the sin most likely to create immediate, tangible harm. It is reactive, explosive, and self-perpetuating. In a system built on Roo’s influence, wrath would be the most efficient way for corruption to spread.

This suggests a functional relationship: Roo provides the underlying influence, wrath acts as the fastest-growing expression of that influence, and Satan governs how that expression manifests. Tho pride(Lucifer) could also work her I doubt Lucifer would work with Roo but someone like Satan who seems to want Lucifer position is more likely to work with a person like Roo at least with what we have both Roo and Satan have been mention together making me believe they work together.

This connection also explains why cult behavior tied to Roo often involves violence, sacrifice, and more. Those actions are not random; they are wrath-driven attempting to feed something that thrives on suffering.

Roo’s Influence Does Not Eliminate Choice

This theory is rejecting the idea that Roo controls individuals. Instead, Roo’s influence operates through amplification. They do not create emotions from nothing; they strengthens the emotions that already exist, particularly those tied to fixation and resentment.

This is why Roo-associated imagery tends to appear at moments of emotional intensity or moral collapse. Their presence is strongest where people cling to their anger, justify their cruelty, or refuse to let go of pain. Roo does not force anyone to act they create conditions where acting on darker impulses feels natural, even rewarding.

Okay with that analysis of Roo

I don't think Roo’s influence was only limited to Hell alone. Earth is where souls are formed in the first place. It’s not hard to imagine Roo spending time on Earth, not as a ruler or obvious god, but quietly, blending in with humanity and creating a cult possible (Helluva Boss)

Taking the form of a man would be the easiest way to do this. It allows them to move through human society unnoticed if this is taking place and have children across different places and times. Especially during the 1800-1900s if Roo took the form of a woman during that they'd be watch more closely than a man would, “lock that woman up now!! she looked at me weird!?!?” I just feel that Roo benefits a lot on Earth if they took the form of a man due to y’know the obvious, and if they were a man and was trying to spread their influence by having children permanently marking themselves into humanity, a man would be the most efficient, man have tons of kids with different people effortlessly all the time.

Most of those children probably didn’t survive very long tho. A godlike entity having children with humans would almost definitely result in instability, physically, mentally, or socially. Early deaths wouldn’t be surprising. But Roo wouldn’t need most of them to succeed just one good one would probably be enough.

Also the idea of Roo have a ton of baby mamas is really funny to me

But I believe that Alastor would be one of these kids. with how Alastor is designed and how his powers works I swear he atleast has some connection to Roo and not only that this video of Viv talking about what Alastor is exactly

Source: HAZBIN HOTEL Animation Cleanup pt. 6 ft Edward Bosco, Micheal Kovach and Vivziepop (1:30:09)

Now.. If Alastor was just some plain old sinner deer overlord I think she'd just say that but for some reason there's something about Alastor genetically that she can't give out at the moment. >:)

So if Alastor is Roo’s child it also kinda of explain how when he broke free of Rosie he didn't lose any power that was supposedly given to him, Hell simply gives him an environment where what’s already inside him can fully express itself. (I feel like I could of worded that differently but you get the idea). Alastor already naturally works in hell seamlessly.

Charlie and Alastor are two character that Viv for some reason can explicitly reveal too much about who they are exactly these question feel simply and the only other reason I believe she isn't answering is cuz they very important and is gonna contribute to a big reveal.

Alastor is a very wrathful person he's vengeful and hold grudges fuel primarily by the unfortunately time period he was born in he's a pretty angry guy despite how he carries himself, Charlie when she become enraged she shows more of her demon form, that has a lot similarities to Roo so wrath has some part to play when it comes to Roo

So with all of thisbeing said I think it's possible that Charlie and Alastor are half-sibling by Roo

Additionally note:

But to continue I keep seeing ppl use Charlie next to Vox and that Vox is gonna be the one to warn her about being used by Alastor or He’s gonna like save her from being betrayed/abandoned by Alastor…..

First of all

IN WHAT WORLD DOES ONE TRULY BELIEVE VOX GIVES TWO NICKELS AND DIME ABT CHARLIE THAT MUCH

Are we serious like genuinely and again it’s mostly Vox fans saying this and victimizing Vox to a certain degree and for some reason Alastor is always included like clockwork

And how in the beginning (I’ma say the end of Season 1) ppl kept making Vox out to be a victim in their fallout by saying theres a possibility of Alastor rejecting him in anyway cuz saying “no” to someone is the greatest crime a person can commit for some reason

That’s a whole different conversation to get into that bugs me and if I dwell on it too much it won’t be something I can laugh off anymore

And Second of all

I’ma say this if you can not accept that Vox is just evil if you can’t accept he has very very horrible qualities as a person you are not a Vox fan, there's only so much of a character you can remove to be liked in your image to a point it’s not even the same character anymore, ppl need to accept Vox as he is if you can't especially as a fan of his you need to let that man go

Idk who that guy you keep talking abt but it ain’t Vox, I think he has the same name from this one guy from Hazbin Hotel a show I watched but that ain't the same guy

And in all honesty I genuinely struggle to even think of a good character quality Vox has, the only thing I can come up with is “he cares about the Vees” And we can even debate that tbh LMAO

in the playbill he doesn’t even sound like he cares for them from Valentinos pov and with the ““““new”””” info abt how he uses ppl it’s very likely he’s only using them for his own benefit right now, Alastor even brings this up in Season 1 so nobody should be surprised

No amount of confirmation from Viv saying The Vees are all evil no amount of questions being answered by ppl actually working on the show helps

Ppl in the fandom constantly talking abt it

WHERE IS MY BEAUTIFUL BOY HELIA

BRO WHO ARE THESE PEOPLE I DON’T LIKE THE WAY THEY LOOK AT ALL

It actually crazy that the one guy that I hated the most as a kid looks the best in this reboot even tho there’s only a bit of him showing

Trix looks really good honestly imo

With Vaggie, the situation is entirely different. They’re in a deep, committed relationship built on trust, and Charlie sees Vaggie as her moral anchor. So learning that Vaggie used to be part of something Charlie deeply opposes shatters that image. It’s not just the lie it’s the feeling that someone she loves most may have stood for everything she’s fighting against. That’s a deeper, more personal betrayal to Charlie not because of what Vaggie did, but because of what it challenges inside Charlie herself.

Charlie (not intentional) puts Vaggie on a higher pedestal than she does for people she hardly knows like I've mentioned before it pretty common for people to except more and hold one’s closed to them to higher standards that the ones they don't know

So Charlie’s reaction isn’t “fair” in a logical sense but it’s more emotionally honest. Forgiving a stranger is easy when your identity depends on hope. Forgiving the person closest to you, when their past makes you question your whole worldview is much harder. And that’s where her flaw shows Charlie’s empathy sometimes stretches further for strangers than it does for the people she loves. Hopefully, that’s something she’ll grow through as the show goes on.

it’s really hard for me to draw animals but also men if im struggling too hard to draw Husk he ain’t gonna be in the final piece of this 💔💔💔💔

the sad part is that Vaggie is trying. She’s reaching out. And even though Vaggie isn’t perfect herself, Her reaching out like that can be seen as her begging to be understood and comfort Charlie when she sees her becomes frustrated with heaven. Charlie pulling away from Vaggie not only shows her refusing to acknowledge Vaggie isn't the same person as she was in heaven in Hello Rosie and it also shows that Charlie doesn't just have an idealistic views when it comes to her dream but also to the people she holds close.

Those moments show something that’s very real in relationships like stated before people often hold higher standards for the people they love than others. It hurts to watch because we know how much they love each other.

The fact that Charlie pulls away doesn’t mean she doesn’t love Vaggie. It means she’s in a narrative sense hasn’t yet learned how to look at her as she is fully sorta putting Vaggie on this pedestal. And that’s a very relatable and tragic flaws a person can have.

This was something I was already gonna get into (I’ll talk more about)

Charlie’s Bias & Moral Conflict Charlie’s ideals are firmly built on peace, forgiveness, and nonviolence even though she could not hold some of these ideals to Vaggie. To learn that Vaggie her partner was once part of Heaven’s extermination squad, the very system Charlie resents, is a shock.

Her anger isn’t just about what Vaggie did it’s about:

Feeling betrayed that Vaggie kept this from her,

Feeling like Vaggie may be part of the cruelty Charlie’s fighting against,

Questioning whether their entire relationship is built on a lie.

Of course, these are emotional reactions, not the full truth. Vaggie has clearly changed. She’s chosen Charlie’s path. But in that moment, Charlie’s fear and disillusionment overwhelm her ability to process the nuance. So she looks down at Vaggie not because she truly believes Vaggie is “bad” but because she’s hurt, shocked, and deeply afraid that her vision of what’s right is falling apart.

When Charlie is emotionally spiraling, The moment of her pulling away is her internal pain turning outward. She’s angry at the situation, and the world she can’t fix.

A Mirror of Charlie’s Deeper Flaw That moment reflects one of Charlie’s deeper flaws: she doesn’t always know how to handle moral complexity in people she loves. When her ideals are challenged, especially by those close to her, she retreats often emotionally shutting down, or looking for a clean moral answer where none exists. But relationships, especially in Hazbin Hotel, aren’t clean. Vaggie’s past doesn’t undo her love or loyalty but Charlie has to grow into understanding that.

In S2

I do think these issue Charlie has will bleed onto other character not just Vaggie

Charlie will need to reckon more with the fact that: People she loves have made violent choices,

Good people can come from “bad” systems

And true compassion means accepting people with their full history not just the parts that feel safe.

Big assumptions below

For Season 2 Unfortunately, we don't have a lot of time which is something I think a show like Hazbin Hotel needs I did hear we are getting more run time tho so 

These issues may be subtle in Season 2, as I do know we are getting a lot of the Vees it looks like, but their interference with the hotel can open up some things with Charlie and Vaggie's relationship. The show has a lot going on but I do remember somewhat that Viv said that Season 3 would be about family this could also be a season focusing on Vaggie and Charlie as well.

So for season 2 and maybe going forward into season 3: Vaggie’s frustration builds (especially Charlie's deal with Alastor if that causes any problems, Charlie being too idealistic and Vaggie not being able to get a word in), Charlie looks momentarily overwhelmed but still pushes forward dismissing her needs and others, and tension lingers unspoken between them.

In Season 2, I can suspect we’ll see these cracks widen a bit. If Charlie’s plans start to fall apart or put herself and more people in danger, Since at the end of season 1 Vaggie is become more trusting of everyone in the hotel after seeing everyone defend it and putting their lives in danger for the hotel. She even warns them and tell them they are free to leave in ep 7 as they did not sign up to be fighting against heaven, Vaggie might finally push back, leading to a conflict that forces Charlie to step outside her idealism and listen more deeply. That could be a defining emotional arc for both of them:

Charlie learns that she can’t carry the entire moral weight of the world on her own, and Vaggie learns that she doesn’t have to sacrifice her emotional needs just to support someone else’s dream.

I would love to see a scene where Charlie sincerely apologizes for overlooking Vaggie’s feelings, and Vaggie admits how scared she’s been of losing Charlie to her mission. It would give their relationship even more depth and realism.

Final:

Charlie has flaws, and I think that’s what makes her work so well but also frustrates people because we are so use to putting all of our trust and comfort in the protagonist. She’s hopeful, yes, but she’s not infallible. And the fact that her imperfections hurt the person she loves most makes her feel real and “human”. I think if the show leans into that, Season 2 (or 3) could give us some of the most emotionally resonant moments in their dynamic.

for your second question: maybe, a very soft maybe

The thing about Vaggie when it comes to her relationship with Charlie is that she often doesn't speak up or really puts her foot down with Charlie we hear her in the background questioning Charlie on how Charlie reacts to things and how to promote the hotel but its immediately dismissed or not even acknowledge by Charlie, Vaggie is a lot less critical of Charlie than she is to the other main cast for even random people this would mostly likely come from her deep insincerity and said by the VA Stephanie Beatriz here 21:18, Vaggie herself that Vaggie struggles with the idea of feeling like she deserves love simply disagreeing with your partner might bring her deep fear if that disagreement escalates so she keep quiet

i kind of hate assuming things or making analysis that sounds too bias so take this as my best assessment of what I've gotten out of the character so far

For Vaggie to be upset with Charlie about something i believe it would have to happen from a chain of events and/or bottled up emotions Vaggie is known to always wanting to be in control of situations said on - VIVZIE STREEM- MONDAYS AMIRITE -#3 (2:43:09)

Vaggie is a lot more familiar with heaven and has a lot to say about it I can see her getting angry with Charlie if Charlie somehow behaves like she know more about how Vaggie feels than she does, I can see Vaggie getting angry with Charlie if Charlie interferes with her past and try's to either rewrite or control it for example her relationship with Adam or Lute or any of heaven

theses assumption are all a very harsh maybe tho