#rosie

“Yes, grandma over in small town who-gives-a-shit threatened to chew me up. Not like I have much fat on my figure, and she wouldn’t get a kick out of munchin on someone like me anyway.”

“Also, I’ve heard the cannibal diet is high in cholesterol. I hope her doctor knows~”

A.k.a I just now realized I've had this theory in my head for AWHILE and never actually posted it on here, just shared tidbits with others and in replies r.i.p.

Doing these in sections because, like always, it's one of my more longer theories.

• To start off with the biggest thing: I don't think Rosie (technically speaking) gave Alastor his powers. Specifically, she never gave him powers from herself. Now you might be thinking, "Ok, then...How did the deal function???" Well! Wordplay and Rosie being the OG master of loopholes when it comes to deals (Alastor being in second place and everyone else seemingly not realizing the inherent sneakiness of Soul Deals, Like the fact that it seems the Vees don't realize how flawed their deals are if you look at the details because they just see it as just another type of severe business contract). My idea is Rosie is doing what many guiding/mentor characters do when they say they're giving a character a new way to do something, they're not literally giving them something in most cases but rather a key or path to get that new thing. The only difference is Rosie never told Alastor that (Personal comparison: When a character in a game said they gave you a new path to go to or a weapon, but in reality they just unlocked a path for you, you still have to get the weapon yourself OR they unlocked the info for you to now be able to know it exists). So...What if Rosie never literally gave Alastor his powers but rather, just used the potential power that already resided in him being a special soul.

• So, wtf makes Alastor's soul special?: There is a LIST of things hinting that Alastor is connected to something that isn't human AND not normal demon/angel stuff either (Nearly all previous versions of him have him connected to some other powerful being from Eris, a being that represents chaos to Malvada, evil...thing basically that he's the son of, to ROO. The many pre-show things that connect him, specifically to the dark side of the moon/a thing on the moon/sentient moon. And I. Can keep. GOING). With his human form being the only one we've seen so far with sharp canine teeth, him being able to summon Rosie in the first place and seeming extremely nonchalant by it, possibly having control of fire (Doing it once is for dramatic effect but he has multiple scenes with him being connected to controlling fire when he's a demon so I can see it possibly being a thing he also had when alive), and the fact that in multiple things (scenes and merch) there is a extreme focus on his eyes either have a red glow in the center of his pupils or there's just a unique focus on them (we didn't get this with Vox or Pendleton who LITERALLY HAVE EYE POWERS). In conclusion, I think he's not a 100% human. I think it would be more interesting if it wasn't his direct parents but rather one or two generations before (makes it more believable that he wouldn't know everything about it but still would have access to info about it), but the theory works even if it was directly his parents.

• His shadow was never in Rosie's control but Alastor didn't know that: Many people say Rosie gave him the shadow but...I honestly don't think that's the case. We see it animated/"alive" before Rosie makes a deal with him, and I honestly think Rosie (As well as most demons stuck in a ring) is limited in the mortal realm until they make a deal with a mortal. And his shadow never seems to obey Rosie in the slightest. It shows more loyalty, always, to Alastor. And a detail many don't consider, Rosie thought Alastor's death was funny not only because how he died but how soon afterwards he died after their deal. Sure, she might've somehow caused his death but...why? Rosie is shown to be incredibly patient and Alastor would have died eventually anyways. And something is usually more funny when you didn't see it coming. But Alastor's shadow did. He transformed into Alastor's Radio Demon form while Al was still alive. And it's not the first time. He's shown to react to things separate from Alastor and in the finale he might've predicted something again to help Alastor. When Al is bluffing about not doing anything and letting everyone die, the shadows in the fire include Emily, someone Alastor barely met minutes before. For all he knows Rosie didn't even see her or know she was there, why include her as a possible victim and not, say, Lucifer or just the Hazbin crew? (The threat/bluff would still work either way) Because maybe his shadow picked up on the fact that Rosie either might know Emily or would feel worse about a young compassionate angel dying over the king. His shadow is something else. Something that might've been created by either Alastor's own efforts or the real mysterious connection Al has to the origins of his powers.

• And FINALLY, Rosie's planning and possible motive for making the deal in the first place: Rosie, from the moment she was first designed, was mostly inspired by Mary Poppins and Dolly Levi, to characters who's main characteristics is trying to guide (In Dolly and Rosie's case literally control and puppeteer) people and situations to teach lessons and for people to reach their full potential. So, when she found a "Special soul" like Alastor's and realized that she could use him for her plan and, in her own way, "help" him also reach his ultimate potential (something both her AND Alastor are planning to do with Charlie for prob their own separate goals). Win-win in theory, so what could wrong?

• What went “wrong”/Rosie miscalculated: I don’t actually think Rosie underestimated Alastor like so many Overlords did, but I do think she underestimated/misunderstood an aspect of Alastor. Alastor, first and foremost, is a person who takes great pride and comfort in doing his own actions and freedom. And he was well-known to kill those (brutally it seems) who disrespected him or who started something against him. Rosie never underestimated his strength (and I kinda think she might’ve overestimated his emotional intelligence/keeping his ego in check), but she did underestimate the lengths he would go to complete HIS goals and how much he values his independence/freedom. Which is why things finally stopped being in her control. Tl:Dr: Fix the mic or the dude who went through insane lengths just to have “fun” and a respectful spot after he died and went to HELL, will use that same amount of determination and energy to destroy your deal and probably so much more in the future because he’s completely free to do whatever he wants and is very spiteful and petty.

And done! Tbh I could prob call this the “Alastor = Pandora Box” theory with Rosie being the one who opened it for Alastor and also the one, one of many tbh, who will end up on the receiving end of it like everyone else. I have never watched Star Wars but this feels like what I heard about with Anakin and Obi-Wan or something. Teacher accidentally helped his student become a future problem.

Stuff not connected to the theory but should be covered:

Im going to being our attention to the cannibals in cannibal town, including Rosie. What if I were to tell you that maybe, the cannibals are hellborne? Created by Lucifer himself?

As we know, there cant be children in Hell, and even if so, there is NO ageing in Hell for sinners. So why was the cannibal with the orange/red hair seen as a child in Vaggie's flashback? Only if him and his kind were hellborne.

My theory brings us to the statue seen in season 2 episode 4.

All of hell, excluding the hellborne, hate Lucifer, and most of all, probably Charlie due to her annoying and happy nature. But Cannibal Town sedm to have a statue of all three of them, looking out proudly. Additionally, the statue is clean and pristine. It shows that they care for them.

This brings us to my hypothesis. I think that when Lucifer and Lillith fell Lucifer couldve created them or done something in order to gain their respect. Perhaps the cannibals owe him (or the family) in some way, which can explain why Rosie treats Charlie with such respect and expects Alastor to make sure nothing goes wrong at her Hotel.

Additionally! Rosie's powers seem different from the other sinner overlords. They seem almost angelic. Lucifer was an angel. And its seen when alastor contacts her to the real world through the radio and 'Dont You Forget'. This leads onto another theory that could suggest she could be Roo, disguising herself as another 'sinner overlord' and the beginning of their names seem too similiar. Ro- sie. Ro- o.