i just wanna get off this train

i'm rewatching it again so spoilers if you haven't seen the movie :)

lemon named his gun Lucille

during the tang fight, after ladybug and tangerine climb back onto the train, tangerine literally grapples onto ladybug and flips him onto his ass ,, fic writers please mention this in ur fics i beg !!

tangerine is a kleptomaniac and he impulsively takes a momonga plushie + the goldfish biscuits

ladybug only has one outfit on the entire movie though it changes almost every other scene because of how many layers he's got on

lemon has a smidge of red eyeliner on his waterline (very small but you can see it and im obsessed,, it also matches his red suspenders)

tangerine has got a west ham sticker on his phone and west ham socks on

the prince has a string tied around her wrist tattoo, ladybug has got a tank, a human body with the anatomy labelled, and a wasp tattoo along with some other silly ones, tangerine has got two swallows on his wrists, a bull dog and two wrestling gloves with a cursive "Dad" written, and a W.H. 51 tattoo on his forearm

when the prince shoots lemon, you can see the diesel sticker he puts on her back

while almost every single character has got some form of jewelry on, kimura and his father are the only one who don't

speaking of jewelry; tangerine has a single gold hoop earring on his left ear (gay man symbol)

every character has their own personalized phone ex; the wolf has a black and gold embellished flip phone + the prince has a pink and white sakura flip phone

after lemon has his grieving scene with tangerine, you can see a gold ring added onto the pendant tangerine gives him

the twins literally took out the entirety of the white death's crew in bolivia

the white death wouldve died if ladybug didn't pull the brakes (though if he didnt pull the brakes they'd all be dead anyway)

ladybug instinctually covers his head and main arteries, he uses the case and shifts his head to the side from the knife the wolf throws and he tucks his body into the momonga mascot suit

ladybug is actually so fucking proficient

he says it's bad luck, because of his newfound desire to not kill people or try not to (and I truly think it all, therapy, choosing to try not to kill people, just snatch and grab jobs, all came to a head when Lemon shot him, for several reason that were briefly touched on in the movie but, whatever, that's another post) but he is SCARILY proficient.

Here's my headcanon and explanation why he ends up killing people EVEN WHEN trying not to, EVEN WHEN he pauses to talk them out of it, which is really just asking them if they REALLY wanna fight cause he KNOWS how it'll end, and if he doesn't win....he's sorta resigned to it. Anyway.

My entire family consists of skilled fighters that have been fighting their entire life.

So I KNOW after years - and ladybug has been in this business for a LONG time - a fight, and navigating a fight, just becomes another one of your senses, it is so natural your body and mind just DO

Every instance he gets the high ground because he's so practiced, even being out for a little while for normal jobs, even while being clumsy, even with his so called bad luck.

If he hadnt been trying to ACTIVELY not kill them, based just on intuition from years of practice, he would have killed them before they even had a chance to kill him.

If he hadnt disliked guns, they wouldn't have even gotten close to him.

He's vigilant, and quick, and innovative--when he closed the door on tangerines arm, when he baited hornet, talking her into grabbing the antidote, then QUICKLY grabbed it from her and used it on himself, even before when he injected her with the poison.

When Lemon shot him in the flashback, he just reacted with exasperation because he had been shot before, probably multiple times from his reaction to it.

He's made out to be a lot less formidable than he actually is, and the reason he comes across that way is because of his nonchalance and resignation to the situation at hand and the resignation leads to him being goofy and clumsy and careless in the moment.

And he has so much resignation because of his years of experience, and the shit he's been through, much like The Elder.

He couldve killed Hornet when he had the briefcase above her, and chose to give her a chance by talking to her, he couldve killed lemon in the beginning when he was sitting in front of him, and gave another chance by talking to him.

He killed the Wolf, accident and instinct, he killedtangerine mortally wounded tangerine.

And all of these are highly skilled killers.

The skill it took to throw a knife that clean, that precisely, from over 6 feet away on a fast moving train, while crouching, and hit the target in the heart with enough depth he sunk immediately, and not hurt lemon at all in the process? Even lemon was surprised.

Bad luck, or is it just a resignation to kill, instinct, and extreme proficiency.

Bad luck or just not caring because he's been in this business for so long, left it, just to return and realize, fuck, he really didn't miss this chaos.

Bad luck or muscle memory?

No, Ladybug is one of the most proficient hitmen on that train and I wonder how ruthless he used to be before he decided to become a new man.

tangerine is a fucking brat. he's a brat, no way around it. he's an angry, anxious mess that is anxious cause he's angry and angry cause he's anxious. he's determined and sassy and strong-willed and stubborn and mouthy. man, does he talk back. he's such a brat. and it's obvious Lemon is one of the only people he trusts.

which is why it is so shocking, to me, how quick he was to let Ladybug free from the threat of the chopsticks (his will that could only be from the strength and determination of a bottom) and get close to him and befriend him. he trusted ladybugs input and plan SO fast. he protected him, tried to warn him about the Diesel, and still, STILL, even AFTER Ladybug accidentally shot him, he was trying to warn him, to protect him, to not let whatever happened to Lemon, happen to the one person he had left on this train. he was so worried, and yeah, annoyed, but not angry like he would have been if it were someone else that he hadn't come to trust. not one threat against Ladybug's life, just a warning of protection.

why? is it to honor his, what he thought was dead, brother's judgement? or is it because of what he himself saw in Ladybug?

I think Tangerine would be annoyed once he woke up in the hospital, and even put up a front of anger, but he'd definitely be relieved. Relieved that the Diesel hadn't killed his brother and relieved that the diesel hadn't killed his...well, hadn't killed,

It might even be said the way he was talking to the hornet was sorta mocking (i don't believe so). but still, very detached, and in both, the wolf and the hornet, he was sorta like, 'oh well,' and moved on.

He had more distractions with Tangerines death (the crying Prince, his desperate need to get off the train, etc) so him even slightly hesitating, which he did, and looking back briefly, which he did, is a BIG sign.

The brief moments of anxiety, and then cutting out of it, to get back in game? Dissociation, DP-DR, distancing yourself to survive.

I have DP-DR and so I can recognize the signs of it and he matches quite a few. The shield of DP-DR does occasionally come down and that's when you can see his anxiety. That's why his reactions are so bizarre and strange.