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I keep seeing versions of this with movie Glinda so here's some with musical Glinda
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I've been curious about this for a while so idk why it took me this long to think to ask:
If your first exposure to Wicked was the films, were there any moments that you could immediately tell were new/different to the stage version without being told? Imo there were some changes that definitely fit in a lot better than others, and there were a few which felt really tacked-on, but given how familiar I already was with the stage version I can't give an unbiased answer here.
If you haven't seen the stage version but there's a moment you think was new, I'd also be interested in knowing that.
"Can you imagine a world where Animals are kept in cages and they never speak?!" is a fascinating line, I think, because it has so many layers to it. This is said by Elphaba in the classroom, in response to Nikidik's cage demonstration. The first and most obvious layer is that Elphaba is expressing her horror towards the oppression of the Animals that is happening in-universe. The imprisonment and silencing of the Animals, especially children, is clearly an abhorrent thing. This line draws attention to that and highlights the fact that nobody except Elphaba really seems to care (or at least is too scared to say anything). But there's another layer that comes in when you consider the real-world audience. This especially applies to the line when spoken on stage, since a big part of live theatre as a medium is the fact that you have an in-person audience. As she is saying this line, Elphaba gets up from her seat and - although she is speaking to Fiyero - she's also kind of speaking to the audience, and looks out towards you as she speaks. There's an element of 4th wall breaking here, since a world where "Animals are kept in cages and never speak" is the one we live in. And taking this into consideration, it's partially a joke. There's irony in Elphaba asking us if we can imagine this horrific hypothetical, when to us it's a mundane part of reality. However, with the seriousness in which the line is delivered, you may argue that there's an anti animal cruelty point in there. Elphaba is horrified by this, and the first half of the line may be asking the audience to consider how we treat animals, and if it really ought to be as normal as we think it is. The second half when taken in this way, though, is more straightforwardly comedic and may be intended to bring a little bit of levity to what is otherwise a very dark scene. With the best will in the world you cannot teach an animal to speak (except parrots but even then it's only sort of possible). And then there's the allegorical layer with the oppression of the Animals acting as a stand-in for real-world marginalisation. The treatment of the lion cub mirrors real oppressive practices, in which children are separated from their families and denied the opportunity to experience their culture and community. (The example that jumps to mind is Native American children being forced into residential schools, but there are others it could also relate to.) When you consider the real-world implications without understanding the Animals to be literal animals, it circles back around to being entirely horrifying.
There's an awful lot contained within this one line, and I think that's really interesting to think about.

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There are a number of lines and scenes in Wicked that are clearly framed as lighthearted and comedic, and that certain people love to take 100% seriously in service of winning an argument and it frustrates me to no end. I refuse to believe you are actually this dense. Every single time I have seen the scenes in question play out in a theatre or a cinema, the audience laughs. Not just a few people laughing awkwardly because they're uncomfortable or a handful of people who get the joke because it's very advanced comedy™. Everyone. Because it's obvious. And if you do this and you know which lines and which scenes I'm talking about without my pointing them out, then you've proven my point. You do know that they're meant to be comedic. Stop treating media analysis like a fight you have to win by any means necessary because it makes you do really intellectually dishonest shit like this.
I'm sure this has been brought up and probably discussed extensively, but seriously what the fuck was up with the "Fiyero. Even you." scene??? She says his name specifically and then we cut to a montage of them...technically being in the same place at the same time, but not interacting with each other at all.
This is what happens. In order. There's one more shot of them walking across the field which I didn't bother screenshotting because it's not much different to the first. Fiyero is maybe talking to Elphaba in the first shot? It's hard to say since we can only see the back of her head, but we do see Glinda's mouth move a bit so he could just as well be talking to her? It's incredibly odd for the flashback that's supposed to show Elphaba mourning the loss of her relationship WITH FIYERO feature Glinda much more prominently, and to position the person she's supposedly thinking about so far away from her. It genuinely feels like a mistake. And I'm not saying this in a "my ship is better than your ship we get more screentime so nyeh" kind of way, I seriously don't know why it's like this. Did they mean to film Elphaba and Fiyero doing something together and forget??? Was the line added too late in production for them to film something more fitting to insert after it??? Why didn't they just re-use the lion cub scene??? Did a studio exec tell them to make the film less gay and so they did this on purpose to spite them??? Why didn't they make the line something about Elphaba mourning the loss of her social circle as a whole or her more carefree younger days so the following montage would make more sense??? It raises so many questions.
Maybe someone somewhere has given an official explanation for this, but if I'm perfectly honest I can't be bothered to look it up. Write in if you know.
If I see another person say Glinda deserves to be alone at the end because she set the system up I'm going to loose it.
Anyone remembers that picture of the glinda stage actress (don't remember which one sorry) with green on her face after kissing elphaba captioned "happy pride" or was that fully fabricated by my brain?
I know the photo you're referring to but unfortunately I can't find the exact one. I do however have the photo of the kiss itself and I can tell you that it was between Mary Kate Morrissey (Elphaba) and Alexandra Socha (Glinda)
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On further investigation I actually do have the green paint picture as well, I just didn't look hard enough last night
Anyone remembers that picture of the glinda stage actress (don't remember which one sorry) with green on her face after kissing elphaba captioned "happy pride" or was that fully fabricated by my brain?
I know the photo you're referring to but unfortunately I can't find the exact one. I do however have the photo of the kiss itself and I can tell you that it was between Mary Kate Morrissey (Elphaba) and Alexandra Socha (Glinda)

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Glinda Upland you will always be blue to me.
one of the best musical moments is during nessa's last scene when the no one mourns the wicked motif starts playing and it transitions into glinda's engagement ball music very sickening things happening there stephen schwartz was diabolical for that one
Come to think of it, "You look positively emerald" might be the only* line in Wicked which specifically highlights Elphaba's greenness as a good thing. There are other times that people say something positive about her appearance, of course, but in this case Elphaba is being seen as desirable because of her skin tone and not despite it or without drawing attention to it. It's really a very sweet moment that shows how much her and Glinda's relationship has grown, and that Glinda has learned not only to accept Elphaba's greenness but to love it.
And this makes what happens afterwards all the more tragic. Not that long after this exchange is perhaps the most negative line about Elphaba's skin in the show, in which it's called "an outward manefestorium of her twisted nature." You can even make the argument that the reason she wasn't stared at, mocked and rejected by the people of the Emerald City originally was because they were all wearing green glasses and couldn't tell that she was green, rather than a genuine acceptance. If this is the case then Glinda is the only person who truly loved her for her differences, and then they're immediately forced apart. But even if the people of the EC really did love and accept her for who she was, it's crushing how quickly Morrible is able to twist that into a reason to hate her.
*"Pink goes good with green" is perhaps another contender, but I don't think it's quite as explicitly complimentary of Elphaba herself -- there's an element of Glinda patting herself on the back for her own styling abilities with that one.
see glinda's mistake was forgiving elphaba in the bridge of for good. because in the book when elphaba asked sarima for forgiveness and sarima refused her elphaba was like okay well i guess i have no choice but to hang around and thoroughly befriend you. whereas glinda forgave elphaba and elphaba fucked off into the desert immediately
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very funny elphaba saw this girl who was sitting alone muttering some bullshit to herself like a psychopath and was like "yep... bright golden presence"
I know that songs in musicals generally aren't meant to be diegetic. Like that's the general gist of what they said but they didn't sing it and probably didn't directly say the lyrics either, since most people don't speak in rhymes or say shit like "personality dialysis" in casual conversation. I do, however, like to think that at least some of the songs in Wicked are diegtic. Specifically popular and thank goodness (maybe parts of NOMTW as well), because I think Glinda is gay and extra enough for that. In the case of thank goodness her singing it adds to the fakeness and performance of it all, and in the case of popular it implies that she has a makeover musical number locked, loaded and rehearsed just in case. The idea of her writing her speeches as songs also has the potential for the Wizard or Morrible or whatever to be like "Ok now include a bit about the Wicked Witch and how she's going to kill us all" and for Glinda to reply "But it doesn't fit my rhyme scheme and it'll ruin the structure" and they'd be so baffled by that response that they wouldn't even bother arguing. Or perhaps Morrible would tell her that that's ridiculous only for the Wizard to take Glinda's side and be like "No, she's right. It'll totally ruin the rhythm."