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It wouldn't work for a number of reasons but there is potentially a really funny Zutara fanfic in the idea of Katara-as-the-Painted-Lady asking her mysterious new ally and vigilante partner the Blue Spirit for help finding the enterence to the Library. Zuko agrees because he thinks it'll give him a good chance to snatch Aang (or so he tells himself) he ends up going into the Library too for... reasons. There he talks to Roku, learns about his bloodline, Sozin's Comet, and that his father really is THAT CRAZY. And that (plus other things) is enough to convince Zuko to disavow his father completely and join the Team Avatar. Unfortunately, his mask gets knocked off while they're all trying to escape but at that point they have a giant owl trying to eat them so they agree to table the discussion of Zuko's new moral alignment.
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Katara: It's nice to see you again! Did you enjoy the show?
Looks like Admirable "Lee" is thinking of a career change hehe. He's shocked she remembers him.
This is from this circus au where Ty Lee is a ringmaster, Katara is a mermaid and shocks the crowd with her swimming act. Another runaway joins the ranks (Zuko).
The anti-Zutara argument of "they shouldn't be together because they literally hated each for almost three seasons" is something I find a bit ridiculous for several reasons.
First of all, even if they were enemies, they are undoubtedly friends by the end of the series. Second of all, most interpretations of how a canon Zutara would work don't end with them getting together in the end, but with an open-ended ending and their relationship being confirmed in sequel material (not to mention how many fanfictions take this route). So any arguments about how they shouldn't have gotten together at the end of the series don't necessarily oppose the ship being canonical. Third of all, do you not know what an enemies-to-lovers couple is?
However, I kind of wanted to look at this argument from a slightly different angle.
I would like to argue that Zuko and Katara didn't actually hate each other at any point during the series. Now, I think the ship would still be valid even if they had hated each other. But I think reducing their relationship pre-Southern Raiders as "hatred" is an incredibly shallow read that borders on outright mischaracterization.
I will fully plant my flag on the claim that there was never any point in the series where Zuko hated Katara, and I would even argue that I don't think Katara ever truly hated Zuko.
I have written here about what I think about their relationship in season 1, and what I think they both thought about each other (TL;DR, I think Katara disliked/resented/held a grudge against Zuko but didn't actually hate him, and I think Zuko had a kind of twisted respect/almost-admiration for her).
I will admit that Katara's feelings specifically can be up to interpretation at times, and there are certain, specific points in which I think she would have been justified in hating Zuko, but I also entirely believe it was at least a little bit more complicated than that.
Like, sure, maybe you can argue early season 1 she hated him, particularly immediately after the events of episode 2. But, as I've written about in my previous meta, I think her feelings on him do go through subtle changes this season. So just making the blanket statement "she hated him" in season 1 just feels so unnuanced and surface level. Also, I think, if she really had hated him, she would have sided with Sokka to let him die.
Which brings us to season 2. In which I find, once again, little evidence for the fact that either of them hated each other. I'm not going to go through all of their interactions here, because I think that would take too long, and is probably better suited to a separate meta.
However, I don't think Katara would have reached out here if she hated him.
And then, there's obviously the Crystal Catacombs.
Why would Zuko reach out here if he hated her? Why would Katara apologize to him if she hated him? Why would she offer to give up one of her most precious possessions in order to help him if she hated him? Why would Zuko accept?
There is . . . nothing here to indicate that they had previously hated each other. One conversation would not have been enough to undo any true hatred between them.
Now, that actually brings us to an incredibly interesting point in the story of their relationship.
Okay, I lied a little earlier. There is one moment in the series where I think Katara hated Zuko.
Here.
When he turns on her in the Catacombs. When he helps Azula conquer Ba Sing Se, when he helps her kill the Avatar, when he helps her kill Aang.
When Katara is holding the dead body of her friend, wondering why should could have ever made the mistake of trusting the word of the prince of the nation that is destroying the world. Coming the horrified realization that had she healed Zuko, she wouldn't have anything to bring Aang back.
This is the only moment in which I will concede that either of these characters hated each other.
I will argue that Katara didn't hate Zuko at any point in season 3, but I won't argue here. I think she did hate him here, however briefly, and I think he deserved it.
But let's move onto the next season. Again, I won't be going through every interaction here, especially since there is a lot more to go through here than in the previous two seasons.
However, I would be remiss not to talk about this moment.
"You might have everyone else here buying your . . . transformation, but you and I both know you've struggled with doing the right thing in the past. So let me tell you something, right now. You make one step backward, one slip-up, give me one reason to think you might hurt Aang, and you won't have to worry about your destiny anymore. Because I'll make sure your destiny ends . . . right then and there. Permanently."
Now, I said I didn't believe Katara hated Zuko in season 3, and I do stand by that. Again, I do see the argument, particularly that in this moment, that she hated him, but I'm still going to play the devil's advocate here. (Is this a hot take, outside of the anti-zutara circles? I'm genuinely not sure.)
Like, yes, she threatens his life here. That is definitely, unambiguously what is going on. She's hurt and angry and resentful, and everything she has felt regarding the Crystal Catacombs (that has gone quite unresolved) is violently bubbling back up to the surface. So she is channeling all of that towards Zuko here.
But I think her behavior between here and "The Southern Raiders" kind of . . . contradicts the idea that she actually believes he means harm, or that she particularly wants to kill him.
Yes, she's catty and snarky and doesn't pass up a chance to dish out a barb to him (entirely justified). But . . . she also doesn't really have an objection (as far we know) to him going on trips with either Aang or Sokka. She also doesn't do anything worse to him than mild verbal antagonism.
And I think this line from "The Southern Raiders" is pretty telling: "But I am ready to forgive you".
Ready. Which, to me, implies that she already knew she meant no harm, already knew he was truly repentant, and already, on some level, was prepared to make amends with him. It just took that journey together for her to fully come to terms with these feelings conflicting against her lingering hurt and resentment.
Heck, even in her "slip up, and I'll kill you" speech, a couple of these lines feel almost similar. "You've struggled with doing the right thing in the past" implies that she believes he has been trying to do the right thing, and least in regards to some of his decisions. "You take one step backwards . . ." implies that he already has taken a step forwards.
Even as far back as this, she believes, at least on some level, he's trying to change. And that's why I don't think she actually hates him when he first joins the group. Because she knows him well enough to understand that he can change. Almost did, once.
I don't think that undermines any of her anger towards him, but I do think both of these things are true at once.
Oh, and obviously Zuko didn't hate Katara this season. None of his anger is in any way implied to be directed at her early in the season, and in the latter half he pretty blatantly wants her acceptance in the group, more so than he wants it from anyone else.
And post-Southern Raiders?
So much hatred, I'm telling you. They act just like co-workers with no chemistry. If those co-workers secretly despised each other. Like, damn, get these kids to HR.
Ah, the petty spite and mutual antagonism. It sickens me.
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k@ has so many incel fans lol & yet it’s something #they never want to talk about
liiiiike … bryke literally talks about ka’s siblings dynamic (which i also never hear from them, surprisingly enough!) and how they’ve always envisioned katara as the mommy-babysitter-older girl archetype (very trendy around incels!)… so much of their ilk talk so weirdly about the characters…….eg the spirit water being a metaphor for katara’s “virginity” - or that they’d rather watch horse p0rn than see zuko and katara end up together….. their arguments against zutara, more or less, come down to: “But Who Will Aang End Up With? After Everything He’s Done? He Literally Gave Up COSMIC POWER And Kissed Her TWO TIMES And She Definitely Liked It Duh! And Who Else Will Give Birth To His Magical Airbending Babies :(”……….kas are fine with these animelite incels because they further purport the sanctity of canon and they raise the stocks/clout for ka! anything problematic associated with ka or its development goes over their head because canon trumps all! who cares if ka is canon in the end anyway? who cares! like………..that’s the crux of their mindset! they don’t mind the incels because - for the most part - they agree with them! they love to intellectualize and/or moralize their anti-zk pretentious, nothingburger thinkpieces - while pulling out every slur they can think of - but can’t take Actual, Concrete Criticism of canon material!
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Think about what you can do at your job or in your daily life to resist fascism when the opportunity presents itself!
A few months back, you might have read about two Logan City, UT court c… William Joma needs your support for Support Legal Fees for Logan Ci
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