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ok lemme fix this b/c once again, it’s clear that these people have never come into contact w/anyone gender-critical and actually listened

gender-critical feminist: we are here to abolish gender

anti-’terf’ individual: oh, so we won’t use gendered pronouns anymore?

gender-critical feminist: changing your pronouns doesn’t change the way you’re treated if you’re female (afab). this is missing the point, also, many of us will respect pronouns. many radical and lesbian feminists are detransitioned or in the process of re-identifying and are using/have used he or they pronouns.

anti-’terf’ individual: gendered clothing?

gender-critical feminist: regardless of sex, people should be able to wear whatever they want, especially comfortable and practical clothing. many of us are gnc or butch. we are highly critical of the makeup/beauty industry and femininity being forced on girls. we don’t believe in ‘lipstick strong enough to kill a man.’ we think clothes are clothes and a boy who wants to wear dresses is not a girl.

anti-’terf’ individual: segregated bathrooms?

gender-critical feminist: segregated bathrooms were created to give afab women protection from the sexual harassment and violence of amab men. trans women are amab and are still male-socialized and many even have male anatomy still. 

female bathrooms are not a refuge for everyone who suffers from male harassment and violence. they are for females. should we let gnc gay men into our bathrooms, too? fat men? how do we distinguish between a man and a male-passing trans woman who identifies as a woman on the inside? females have the right to safe spaces in their restrooms. 

many of us consider single-stall gender-neutral bathrooms a good addition to male and female bathrooms (not a replacement).

anti-’terf’ individual: So, we’re going to do something about the gender binary, yes? We’re going to attack the idea that gender is intrinsically linked to one’s anatomy, and we’re going to boost the visibility of trans and intersex people, who face the most violence consequences of the sex and gender binaries–yes?

gender-critical feminist: oh, you’re so close to the point! the gender binary is not the source of violence, though. gender itself is. 

gender is a set of expectations and rules forced on people due to their sex. afab people suffer far worse consequences from this than men, although we also have sympathy for gnc and transitioned males who suffer under patriarchy. we want to end the idea that one’s personality, interests, sense of style, etc all come as a package with one’s anatomy. 

we want to end the idea that females are made for male consumption and males should chase females. we oppose and critique male and female socialization and we want children to be raised in a gender-neutral manner. 

as for intersex individuals, there are many intersex radical and lesbian feminists and many of us are striving to become more aware of intersex issues. the abuse intersex people suffer at the hands of the medical industry often stems from violent reinforcement of heterosexuality (e.g surgery to allow penetration) or ableism (fixing ‘abnormal’ bodies even when it’s not medically necessary). 

there are actually only two sexes and intersex conditions are just naturally-occurring (though often non-functional, as they lead to infertility) variations on male and female.

anti-’terf’ individual: Then what are you going to do, exactly? What is your plan? How are you going to accomplish this?

gender-critical feminist: if you acquaint yourself with our actual theory and practice and not just straw-women, maybe you’d understand that. anti-’terf’ individual: how?

They don’t have a clue what radfems do or say, so they just make it up to make them even more hated. 

“People say, “Oh, well, pornography—that’s for masturbation, nobody can get hurt that way.” But orgasm is a very serious reward, isn’t it? Think of Pavlov’s little dogs, right? They don’t just think about salivating; they salivate. They do it because they learned it. Period. Now think about pornography. The dehumanization is a basic part of the content of all pornography without exception. Pornography in this country in the last ten years has become increasingly violent by every measure, including Playboy, including all the stuff you take for granted; and every single orgasm is a reward for believing that material, absorbing that material, responding to that value system: having a sexual response to stuff that makes women inferior, subhuman.”

liberal media: this might sound like an innocent statement, but it’s actually supporting the violent transphobe maya forstater

maya forstater: i will use preferred pronouns but i don’t believe that people can literally switch their biological sex

liberal media: this might sound like an innocent statement, but it’s actually supporting violently transphobic radical feminist ideology

radical feminist ideology: gender roles should be abolished because they oppress women, so claiming that conforming to women’s gender roles makes you a woman is counterproductive. while being gender non-conforming is great, it doesn’t change your sex

most people who criticise radfems have not once engaged with radfem material at its source, but rather just regurgitate each other and say radfems are puritan conservatives

hence why you end up with shitshow statements being said like radfems are becoming tradwives

when OSA radfems are literally the least likely OSA demographic of women to partner with males let alone support traditional gender roles in relationships. like