I have never forgotten this scene in 2x13. Lucas has the motives, the skills, the $$$.

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I have never forgotten this scene in 2x13. Lucas has the motives, the skills, the $$$.

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Itâs crazy how Alison made fun of Hannaâs weight in middle school and now Alisonâs character is the curvier one.
This is in no way meant to shame Sasha for her weight gain, just an observation.
Hanna Marin is the New -A
Hanna Marin has already been pretty sneaky on 6B. She's also seems to be struggling the most with being back in Rosewood. So here is my theory. I think Hanna is the new -A. I have several reasons why. 1. Someone seems pretty sure that one of the liars killed CeCe or knows who did. Detective Tanner seems to think so too. 2. The flashback scene with Hanna and Melissa - One of the points of that scene was to show that Hanna was still angry about what CeCe had done to them. Hanna has definitely been known to act rashly and not think things through. I think it's completely possible that she could have gone back out that night to kill CeCe. Detective Tanner is definitely on to something when she says that no one was murdered in the 5 years the liars have been gone. 3. The leak about Veronica Hastings' opponent (that just so happened to come from Spencer's laptop) could have very well been Hanna's doing. It's obvious she's not ok with Caleb and Spencer. This got Caleb out of Spencer's house. 4. I've thought for many seasons of this show that Hanna Marin had a big role in the -A game. Hanna was the outcast in middle school. She struggled to fit in. She finally became part of a group, but she was labeled hefty Hanna by Alison and still probably felt like somewhat of an outcast. This -A game brings them all together, forces them to protect each other. I think Hanna likes this feeling and she may be willing to start it all over again just to be together like old times. Clearly Hanna is going through a life crisis at the moment. 5. Hanna has been acting a bit strange in my opinion. One moment she seems unsure of whether she wants to marry Jordan. The next, she is all smiles and calling Jordan to set a wedding date. I'm sure I could add more, but this is all I got for now. Opinions?
PLL questions I want answers for but will probably never get.
Just thinking outloud. Online. Whatever.
â˘Miss Aria Youâre A Killer Not Ezraâs Wife / M-A-Y-A-K-N-E-W ok I donât know why they pointed that out but I want Maya to be relevant again so badly idk â˘what does Noel Kahn have to do with all this? Why did Maya stay with him? And Ali? Didnât she have something over him? â˘What was up with Jenna and Sydney matching at the doctor that time? And why was Melissa with them? â˘Also where did they all go? Noel and Jenna and even Sydney⌠Like they brought back Lucas but everyone else just disappeared. â˘Who is Dr. Sullivanâs son? â˘I donât understand why Andrew was so sketch and listening in on their phone call and stuff. And why he disappeared?? â˘Where did Eddie Lamb go? Why did he know Aria? â˘who or what was in the barrel?? â˘Did we find out who Varjack is? And why he was important? â˘and finally WHERE THE FRICK DID WREN GO WHY WAS HE SO SHADY basically give me answers for everything about Wren. Cause Iâm holding on to Wren is Uber A unless you can prove me wrong.
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If the footage was of Aria leaving the hotel that night, why would the police suspect Hanna of erasing it? Wouldn't they suspect Aria? So why would Ashley go so far to protect Aria?
Dear PLL Fandom;
We need to do better.
There is no reason in this world for anybody to send Troian Bellisario or Tyler Blackburn volatile comments on any social media platform for something their characters are doing or have done. None. Not a single reason.
They are actors and they are doing their job and even if you dislike their storyline â which is allowed, Iâm not saying itâs not â they deserve your kindness. No one who is a part of this show should have to even think about compromising their creative integrity based on the fact that theyâre scared of what the backlash from the audience will be. They are doing their job and when theyâre faced with bitterness and hatred, it compromises their job.Â
I find this fandom has a problem with separating characters from the people who portray them. You can go onto Troianâs instagram right now and see people who arenât differentiating between Troian Bellisario and Spencer Hastings. I briefly went to her profile and on one photo there were comments like âyou a lil hoe for kissing calebâ, âi cant believe u and caleb kiss!!!!â, âhow could u do that to hanna?!â, âyouâre a slut!!!â.Â
SHE IS NOT HER CHARACTER.
Troian â Spencer. Â Â Tyler â Caleb.
Troian didnât kiss Caleb. Tyler didnât hook up with Spencer. Spencer kissed Caleb. Caleb hooked up with Spencer. They are very different things. And chances are, if you follow them on instagram, you know their real names. Troian has been very open about people who see her on the street or somewhere and call her Spencer because THAT IS NOT HER NAME. SHE IS NOT SPENCER HASTINGS.Â
Itâs okay to comment things such as, âwow thatâs so weird, spencer and caleb made out!!â, âwhat do you think of spencer kissing caleb?â, âit must be fun to get to work with tyler more!â, âi love you, but i definitely canât get behind spaleb, i hope thatâs okay! i still love you as an actress though <3â
Things that are not okay include comments like, âi hate you i canât believe you did thisâ, âyouâre trash for hooking up with your friends exâ, âi canât believe you donât respect us fansâ Â â anything you wouldnât say to her in person is probably not okay.
Why should Troian â or anybody â respect you if you donât respect them? Respect isnât something you automatically have. Respect is earned by being a decent person.Â
Weâre lucky to have social media. Â We now have an open invitation to most celebrities lives. So donât fucking blow it. Donât take it for granted.
**Please note that Iâm not trying to tell you that you have to like Spaleb, that you canât be upset or annoyed by it. You absolutely can but donât attack the actors. If youâre upset and you feel like you need to talk about how awful it is, fine, but do it on the page specifically meant for PLL. Donât target actual human beings.**
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Worst finale ever!!!!
I can't believe that there are people who actually thought the -A reveal was good! Its freaking ridiculous. Nothing about it was believable, from the plot holes to the motive. This was such a good show and they've ruined it! I think the acting on the show was amazing, but the story and where it ended up was poor. I've never felt so empty and disappointed after watching a "finale"
My reaction to CeCe being âAâ and âGame Over, Charlesâ:
1.      Timeline inconsistencies. Timeline inconsistencies. Timeline inconsistencies.
2.      We left the PLL moms in the basement for the five years? Poor moms!
3.      Mona, Spencer, Emily, Hanna and Aria and their respective families, after CeCe stole the game from Mona and became âBig Aâ, are actually irrelevant and faced pointless torment and trauma for the past years over something they had no control over whatsoever. Â
4.      Marlene, how do you explain that Alison and Toby had a scene with Marion, but CeCe was a child when we saw Bethany push Marion off the roof? When Marion was killed, according to the logic in âGame Over, Charlesâ, Toby and Alison would have had to have been children as well. However, we have a flashback of an alive Marion with Toby and Alison in their mid-teens? So, is Marion a supernatural being? Is Marion a time traveler? What a joke.
5.      In the 6A finale, CeCe claims that she needed to know that Alison was alive and the only way to do that is to lure her out of hiding. However, CeCe already knew that Alison was alive. CeCe was one of Alisonâs helpers when she was hiding. Hmm, okayâŚ
6.      CeCe was Rosewood High School Prom Queen, in Drama and in the Debate Club, but she never attended the school? How does that work? Yes, you tried to explain that in the finale, but it was weakâat best.
7.      Incest. CeCe knowingly dated her brother? Wonderful. According to the finale, she didnât do âanything wrongâ, but the idea of someone knowingly dating her brother is just appalling.
8.      Also, congratulations to Jason on dating not one, but two of his four sisters. Big âkudosâ there, buddy.
9.      CeCe was able to complete gender reassignment with no problem at a mental institution â apparently.
10.  The idea that a mental institution would allow one of its patients âin-and-outâ access is ridiculous. So, youâre going to tell me that a mental institution knowingly let one of its patients spend a whole summer on vacation. Wonderful!
11.  Radley Sanatorium gives out day passes so its patients can go and come as they please to attend funerals and the university? Awesome. Â
12.  The idea that a mental institution would allow three of its patients access to a rooftop unsupervised. Another wonderful idea.
13.  Charles or Charlotte/CeCe should be five years older than Bethany, but in the rooftop scene between CeCe, Bethany and later Marion, Bethany looks older or even the exact same age as CeCe.
14.  The escalation of the argument between Marion and Bethany was unbelievably fast. Also, the lack of explanation for why Bethany killed Marion.
15.  Wren gave CeCe a visitorâs pass to visit Mona at Radley. However, CeCe was already a patient when Mona became a patient. CeCe would have had no need for a visitorâs pass if she was a patient. Even then, someone visiting an unstable patient at a mental institution seems unlikely.
16.  Also, Wren was almost suspended for letting CeCe into Radley when CeCe was already a patient at Radley? Great work there.
17.  We were told that CeCe got kicked out of UPenn because of Alison. That was a lie. She got herself kicked out when she hit Alison in the head.
18.  CeCe supposedly snuck into Radley and pretended to be Alison, but CeCe already lived there? Wouldnât the staff recognize one of their own patients? No? Okay, that makes total sense.
19.  Also, why would Jessica be angry that she got a call from Radley because her daughter was âsitting in Radleyâ and it turned out to be CeCe Drake? CeCe is her daughter. Her daughter was already in Radley. Shouldnât she have known that? Why would have Jessica been angry that her daughter was where she was supposed to be? Â
20.  The poor excuse how CeCe had the income to be âAâ in the first place.
21.  Wilden changed the report for Marionâs death to protect CeCe. However, how does that logic work? If Wilden was only a couple years older than or roughly the same age as CeCe, then he would have had to have been a kid when the crime took place. Unless Wilden is a vampire or has been the same age his whole life, he couldnât have been a police officer when the crime took place.
22.  Sara as both Red Coat #3 and Black Veil. Are you serious? What motive did Sara have to join CeCeâs revenge? Youâre telling me that a stranger ran away to join another strangerâs revenge against five other strangers. Makes sense.
23.  Ian killed himself, according to a recent interview with Marlene. Why would Ian have killed himself? Wasnât Melissa on her way to help Ian? Doesnât add up.
24.  In episode 19 of season 3, Jason claims he saw CeCe speaking with Melissa âthat nightâ. Okay, yes, Jason was drugged that night, but⌠In the season 6A finale, CeCe claims that Bethany stole her clothes and snuck out of Radley. Alison calls her out and says that Emily was told by Jason he thought he saw CeCe wearing the infamous yellow top that night. CeCe claims that he must have seen Bethany or Alison that night because âhe didnât see meâ. Yet, also in season three, CeCe says to Emily that she WAS there that night because Alison called her. Alison was freaking out because everyone wanted the N.A.T. videos, specifically Melissa. CeCe said she was talking to Melissa that night and Melissa begged her to talk to Alison. So, what is it? Were you there or not, CeCe? If what CeCe says is true and Melissa was actually talking to Bethany, that makes zero sense. What would Melissa have had to discuss with Bethany? Bethany and Melissa never even met. YEP. This makes so much sense Marlene.
25.  When Spencer was recalling the night she met Charles/Charlotte/CeCe, she said that there was something âreally familiarâ about Charles. Can someone explain to me how CeCe would be familiar to Spencer if they werenât even close or even friends? They were acquaintances at best. Â
26.  The âstand-inâ that they used in place of CeCe at the dollhouse was bigger and taller than Spencer. Spencer is clearly taller than CeCe.
27.  Alison became a teacher at Rosewood High within five years. Letâs remember that Alison missed most of high school because she was âmissingâ or âdeadâ. Seems legit.
28.  At the fake prom in the dollhouse, CeCe yearned to be Prom king with âAliâ a.k.a Mona as her queen. Thatâs strange for someone who identifies as a female.
29.  If CeCe wanted to be a woman so badly, why did she dress-up as a man in the dollhouse?
30.  We were promised a âgender revealâ in the season 5 finale. âAâ was presented as a man in the episode, and not a transgender woman.
31.  Marlene said I would feel âheartbrokenâ and âsurprisedâ when I found out who Big A was. Nope. I was disappointed. Why would I feel âheartbrokenâ about a woman who tortured other women for entertainment and because it was âlike a drugâ to her? Thatâs not heartbreaking. Thatâs disturbing.
#24 though (agrees with all, though great point on 24)
Yes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WTH PLL?!?!!?!

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They had to have been high when then wrote the summer finale. That's all I can come up with. This was worse than the "How I met your mother" finale.
Some good points! I know that PLL is pretty unrealistic to begin with, but this was absurd. I feel like they didn't even try! The whole story was poorly put together and we were left with a plot that was ridiculously full of holes. đđđđ
My Brief Thoughts
I could post a long message about my thoughts on the finale, and I may still do that, but itâs late so Iâm keeping this short.Â
My opinion on Cece being A:
Doesnât make perfect sense, but we all suspected it at one point or another (come on, her initials are the same as Charles) and tons of us theorized about the transgender theory. Itâs not totally surprising. But I donât get why she chose to date Jason to get close to the family. She couldâve just befriended Ali, who was the one that she really wanted to be close to. That way she wouldnât have had to make out with her brother.
Ceceâs motive also was pretty shaky. She hated the liars because they were happy that Ali was gone?? All of Rosewood was happy to see her gone, not just the liars. Cece knew Paige. Iâm sure Paige was glad to see Ali gone. Why wasnât Paige targeted too? Jenna and Toby hated Ali too.
How did she have access to all of the medical supplies and cadavers that she used? Was she working with Wren, and if so, why wasnât it mentioned?
Why was there a visitorâs badge at Radley found by Spencer saying that Cece Drake was authorized by Wren to visit Mona? Did he lie when he said that Melissa suggested that Cece visit Mona?
When did she stop being a patient at Radley? How did she get out of there to parade around town and have a job at a boutique after killing Ali?
My opinion on red coat/black widow:
Iâm furious about this. Sara Harvey?? When they introduced those characters, we had no clue who Sara Harvey was. They couldâve done so many amazing things with it and instead they did this. They said weâd have no questions after the finale, but I have no clue how the Sara thing happened. Was she ever kidnapped? Why did she work for Cece? SO CONFUSING!
A few more loose thoughts:
Overall props to Vanessa Ray on the acting, particularly the scene when she realizes that she killed Ali and not Bethany.Â
Iâm upset that they didnât integrate the other characters like Melissa, Wren, Jenna, Noel (what was his secret that made him help Ali?) etc. What about Maya?Â
Marlene just said in an interview that Jenna knew that Ali was alive which is why Cece targeted her. Why didnât they talk about this? How did she know?
They said that someone who we thought was dead wouldnât be dead. That was a lie. But then again they also said that they wouldnât do the transgender storyline and then they did.Â
Anyways, I realize that this post is no longer brief but I couldnât stop myself. Iâll post more thoughts whenever I next think of them. Please keep messaging me your opinions and questions, Iâd love to discuss! xo
Sign a petition to have the -A reveal re-filmed, because this was truly disappointing. It was sloppy writing and full of errors. The loyal fans deserved better than this.
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Iâm having a really hard time getting past the time line error with the finale. Iâve thought and thought about it and its a mistake. Toby was shown with his mother still alive when he was a teenager. Toby is definitely younger than Charles by 4-5 years. Tonightâs finale showed Bethany Young killing Tobyâs mother when Charles was a kid (12 years old?). This does not make sense in any way, shape or form. Also I thought Bethany was near the age of the girls. Yet she was shown looking about the same age as Charles... What a train wreck..... âââââââââ

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PLL error (?)
OKAY so my friend Holly and I noticed that the timeline doesnât even add up. Toby was a teenager when his mom died, as was Alison, as seen in 4x01 âA is for A-l-i-v-eâ when she was getting sick. However, in the Charles flashback, Charles/Cece was still a young child when he saw Bethany push Marion off the roof⌠but Charles/Cece is 7 years older (ish) than Ali? Meaning Toby and Ali would have had to have been infant children, not teenagers? So the timeline is wrong by a good 10/15 years. Well done PLL writers.Â
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Wow ummm... First of all, Cece being Charles wasn't really a shocker. I think we all saw that coming... "-A's brain" and the whole matrix crap was completely ridiculous. Where did Cece get all the money for this again? Then red coat and black veil are Sara? Sarah freaking Harvey???? And she was only introduced this season? Total bullshit. I thought I was disappointed in how HIMYM ended. This was way worse!! I can't believe I waited this long to find out that Cece Drake was behind all this! And Sara Harvey!! W T F đđĄ