hello friend !!! out of curiosity, thoughts on the chapter 5 egg room :D ?
I'm a big fan of the interpretation of the forgotten man/eggs as an allegory for Kris's repressed memories reaching out to them in a digestible way, in a way that is abstract enough for them to not immediately reject, and distinct enough from the actual memory to form as something in the dark world at all despite being a repressed memory
Not the actual trauma alla "Kris was traumatized by something they saw behind a tree" but more like... The memories are too hidden in their psyche to become anything in the dark world, so they become something else, physical, that is completely detached from the trauma but still reaches out to its person as if it openly was that deeply personal feeling.
Also the eggs are physical objects that manifest in the light world but with very odd properties... It's not just a feeling. There's a person there that cares
"Kris felt a strange melancholy. It was a feeling that they should not look for the man anymore. Even though they had never done such a thing in the first place." of his own volition he's here for them. They might not have a say. The feeling approaches fast and they're on the path towards truly healing, but the effort isn't truly theirs just yet.
"A weight remained on their shoulder... A weight that stretched out into the distance..." A huge weight that cares for this small being so much that it waits to them to find it through dumb luck. A cosmic weight, way too much responsibility placed on a child, way too many memories to hold onto without wanting to forget them all.
"Ask for more". Please. Please. Anything. I wanna know you. Who are you. Why are you helping me. Can I help you?
"Your head began to spin" "the man saw this and looked concerned, he seemed like he wanted to speak, but..." "... Well, the man smiled."
He wants to speak. He wants to tell them. But even if he could, what good would that be? A doctor grabbing the wrist of his patient and dragging them toward what he believes is true, the child wouldn't heal.
And this time I FOUND THE ROOM ON MY OWNNNN I CAN FINALLY SAY THAT. THE FIRST EGG ROOM I FIND ON MY OWN WITHOUT LOOKING UP A VIDEO IS the last one. Oh.....
My sister entered my room and kinda ruined it for me but. I'm trying not to think about that I'm thinking about how cool this is. I'm thinking about the universe loving Kris and caring for them. I'm thinking about gaster calling Kris a wonderful person. I'm thinking about the valentine's letter saying "I WANT TO HELP!"
... I'm thinking about anyone else who's repressing his anguish and is in desperate need of help... I'm thinking about a part of him that gained autonomy separated from him who's going around helping everyone and wanting to help him too. I'm thinking about that part being his self compassion searching for him. Now autonomous and impossible to silence like he always did before he shattered.
Also a little bit about my personal experience with it.............
Realizing that I might need to continuously "harvest the wheat" that keeps appearing had me feeling so stupid for going between so many rooms over and over hoping to wrong warp into his arms.
Chasing after the balloon made me feel like a child joyfully following a mystery in wonder
The annoying dog taking away my watering can every time I tried to use it made me laugh so hard. I just kept giggling and stealing it and watering the pathway that I didn't even notice when I made it to the room.
Seeing it was identical to the first egg room in chapter 1 gave me chills. It brought me right back to middle school. Youtube videos from 2018 showing all the secrets in this weird Undertale 2 demo. Trying it out in my game and being so awestruck that it worked and is actually real
The dialogue was the same as well. I panicked. Please don't be it. Please something more. Isn't this the last time I see the forgotten man?
"Ask for more" I felt guilty for clicking it, I felt like I already took so much from him without giving anything back. But I couldn't just let this be it. Please. Who are you.
He didn't have anything more to give Kris. He softly put a hand on their shoulder, and showed them his empty palm. He placed a finger over his mouth, smiled and shook his head. He didn't have anything more to give. We already have everything.
He waved goodbye and walked away, before looking back just one more time. Like a parent leaving their child alone for the first time, making sure they're still alright without the option to hold his hand.
... Or maybe it was to sooth the parent, that the child is still okay and will be okay even after he leaves. After all, they already have everything.
