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Canada's retired ice dancing sweethearts Tessa Virtue and Scott Moir will be adding one more medal to their storied career after being inves

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Tessa Virtueâs leap from Figure Skating Olympic Champion to Executive MBA | Kneading Dough Canada
https://youtu.be/JAAkEDRFJ1A
Host: Vinay Virmani
T: If youâre going to build something, you need options in your life. Iâll say this especially as females, itâs important to be independent. To feel like you can be self-reliant and to take care of yourself.
[Intro presented by Tangerine]
V: Tessa, welcome to Kneading Dough Canada.
T: Thank you so much for having me.
V: Itâs a pleasure. Kneading Dough Canada is a financial empowerment platform as you know, where we talk money, we talk mindset, we talk about financial lessons that youâve learned along the way to hopefully inspire the next generation.
T: Well Iâm so grateful to be on, I really appreciate it. I think itâs always refreshing to hopefully lend that female lens but also maybe that perspective from the amateur sport world too.
V: Yeah, you know Tessa youâve accomplished so much, both in your personal and in your professional life. As an athlete you have achieved so many incredible honours, youâve represented us, this country of Canada at the highest of international levels, but what Iâm really excited about is youâre about to add another accomplishment in the form of three very special letters, MBA behind your name. Talk to me about that decision.
T: Itâs been you know lingering in my mind for a long time. Education was always a priority in my household growing up in my family, and I thought about law school for quite some time and then I retired at 28 or 29 and thought maybe thatâs too long (giggle) and realized also I wanted to flex a bit of a creative muscle. So this MBA program has been a dream of mine for quite some time. I want to be a student again in every sense of the word and Iâm eager to learn the ins and outs of the business realm and that corporate sphere that Iâve had a unique perspective of, you know for 10 15 years, but if Iâm going to take on a new role whatever that may be then I really want to feel like Iâve adopted that rookie mindset once again, and earned my stripes, Iâve gotten the credibility to to deserve a place there.
V: I want to take it to the world of figure skating though, because the world of figure skating is so glamorous as a sport. You know
T: I wasnât sure where that sentence was going to land. It could have gone so many directions.
WE Well-being podcast - May 2
Overcoming the Negative and Achieving Self-LoveÂ
S (Intro): Before we get started, let's reflect on how much our lives have changed in recent weeks. I'm Sophie Gregoire-Trudeau, host of the WE Well-being Podcast, and I like all of you, am practicing physical distancing and doing my part to help flatten the curve. I know it's not easy to be apart, we're all social beings, myself included and being physically distant doesn't mean we need to be disconnected. Whether it's phone calls, FaceTime, emails, are all excellent ways that we can remain connected through this challenging time. And taking care of our well being, of our mental health is important now more than ever. Although we recorded these episodes before COVID-19, all the lessons and advice remain applicable and incredibly useful during these difficult times.
OK, where should we begin. Well maybe with the fact that in all of our lives thereâs always room for greater self-awareness and self love. And we all know that doesnât come easy. I'm Sophie Gregoire-Trudeau and as an ally of WE Well-being and WE Well-beingâs reason for being to empower everyone to support their own mental health. And through this podcast my mission is to expand the way we think, the way we talk and feel about our own health and our own mental well being. Iâve spoken openly and candidly about my own struggles with eating disorders and when we share our stories we can break down stigma and we can help heal ourselves along the way. So, be prepared to be moved and inspired by some big hearted and soul lifting people in conversations. None other than Olympic Champion Tessa Virtue, helps to start things off by letting us into her world.
T: The sooner we can wake up in the morning and say this is what Iâm working with today, this is worthy of love and affection and youâre enough, exactly how you are, every curve, every hair, every freckly, itâs perfect because itâs you.
S: Tessa opens up about how she stays committed to her ideals of health and strength on her path to becoming the best in the world. And in upcoming episodes we will hear from some incredible men and women who have taken all that life can throw at them, and who found ways to not only survive but to thrive. People like Silken Laumann, Esera Tuaolo, and my incredible mother-in-law Margaret Trudeau. And with each conversation we will and grow and marvel, because we know that things can make a huge difference. So weâve recruited leading experts to share easy to understand and hands on advise that will give us the tools and strategies to foster well being in all corners of our lives. Today, getting comfortable with the uncomfortable life coach and mom Meg Popovic, is here to talk about the upside of having awkward conversations with our kids.
WE Well-being is not about standing on your head meditating for hours or adding anything more to your to-do list. Itâs about finding your feet, celebrating your strength and taking care of yourself and others, as you step up and into the world.

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Tessaâs Speech WoF London Aug 7, 2019.
Thank-you so much for being here. I truly appreciate you taking the time.
I had the privilege of attending Col. Chris Hadfieldâs ceremony yesterday in Sarnia. And not only is he brilliant and articulate, the man can also sing. He sand a great rendition of Space Oditty and I thought, I mean I donât know if we have to do an interpretive dance (Scott does a hoe-down) but I donât know where we go and at Scottâs ceremony today he spoke so eloquently about the influence and the impact that Ilderton has had on his career and on his life. And it was an honour to witness that and Iâm absolutely thrilled to be here with each and every one of you to celebrate this hometown star that has such meaning and significance. Thank-you Jeffrey and to the Walk of Fame for hosting us here.
If Iâm honest, when we started planning this event, a huge part of me wanted to hire some actors to pretend to be my friends and family and community members because I felt so guilty asking anyone to spend their cherished time or energy celebrating us. I mean you guys have spent 22 years doing just that. The guilt was so real that I have to say that now as I look around this room and I see so many familiar faces. Iâm glad. Iâm glad youâre real. Iâm glad youâre my friends. Iâm glad that you are community members who are contributing in such relevant ways to London.
Chris mentioned yesterday that, he quoted the Wizard of Oz and Dorothy saying âthereâs no place like homeâ. And itâs true, London is home. This is where my dreams began. Every part of my aspirations and my career, well thatâs imbedded in the fabric that is London. And itâs everything that London stands for. Itâs inclusivity and acceptance and unconditional love, itâs fairness. Itâs everything that makes me so proud to hear, representing Ilderton, representing London, representing Canada. Tessa Virtue and Scott Moir and thatâs never been lost on us.
Iâd like to take a moment and thank Scott personally, I mean we can do this on our own time but (he does a body laugh), also would be a very very long speech. But, thank-you for making it so easy to be your skating partner, your friend, and your number one fan. I was inspired by you every single day. As an athlete, and Marie France and Patch can attest to this, Iâve never met someone so dedicated, so driven, so committed to the process, so passionate, and as a human, Iâve never come across anyone so thoughtful, so compassionate, so generous. And itâs easy to see how you captivate audiences, and itâs so easy to understand how everyone in this room, everyone in these communities has grown to love and adore you.
Giving back to the London Womenâs Abuse Centre here is London is so necessary, yet so needed. You are on the front lines of making a difference in the lives of so many people. Thank-you for your contributions to this community. Thank-you for being the safe place for so many women and children in need. We all applaud you.
I still get congratulatory cards from some of my public school teachers from here in London. I get emails and phone calls and text messages from people who have made their mark on my career over the years. And thatâs everyone from my first dance teacher, my neighbour on the street growing up, itâs my brotherâs friend who helped me as a baby and gave me his beer after we finished competing in Pyeongchang. This room is full of so many people who have really made it easy to be thankful. Made it easy to take centre ice and not feel alone.
(Tearing up and voice breaking) Thank-you to my family, you guys are the best and I canât wait to celebrate with you and like we always do with a dance party probably. But itâs your sacrifice, your love and your patience and understanding and generosity and Iâll continue on later at home.
Thank-you everyone for being here. I hope this symbolizes the journey of hard work and something weâve been talking about a lot lately, just the fulfillment in that, in the process, not just the medals and the success but what it takes to get there. And I hope this sets an example.
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Scott Moir Ilderton WoF Speech Aug 7, 2019
(Jeffrey giving a speech about Scott and Tessa at the beginning of the video.)
You inspire hope in a in a world that seems hopeless. You shine a light where there is so much dark. And you continue to give so much of yourself to the communities and the people around this great country. And you always do it with a smile and such kindness. And now you will continue to do this with your new fiancĂŠe Jackie, who is here with us today.
(About 10 minutes later.)
"Come on Scott, now let's do this unveiling and bring that lady with you that hangs out with you all the time."
Tessa" Which one", Scott does a little gesture pointing back and forth between her and Jackie.
Scott:
"OK Perfect. Well good afternoon ladies and gentlemen. Thank-you so much for coming to the Ilderton arena.
We seem to have a history of coming to the arena in August for some reason, but it works out well for us. First person I have to thank of course is my business partner, my skating partner, uh, kiddo can you believe this? Can you believe that we're, that was our career and we got to share it together it's more special now more than ever has been, to reflect on just how in sync we were through our career and  how we, how proud I am of us that we battled through adversity and obstacles and injuries, um to realize our ultimate goal of winning the Olympic champions a couple of times. So thank-you Tessa.
 I'm so happy, I was worried that it was just going to be my name on the plaque and then people in Ilderton would have been there at night etching in Tessa's name as well because everything that we did, we did together. That's the way it's supposed to be.
 In such a special group of people in the room today it's almost impossible to go through everybody individually, so I'll speak a bit more generally and then I'll individually thank you all over a glass of champagne.
Um, fame is an interesting word for me. I don't uh, I never cared about being famous. I still don't really think I am famous and it took me a long time to wrap my head around why it's me. I always know why Tessa deserves to have a star on the Walk of Fame, I don't truly understand or realize why I should. I look at my friends, you know dairy farmers, electricians, very hard working people who work just as hard as I do doing what they do and contribute just as much to this community
It really bothered me until recently when I that this star isn't for me, it's not for me at all. It's about the accomplishments that Tessa and I had together, but what it's about is the people that supported us to get where we needed to be. Where we wanted to be. Where no one, if you ask Alma and Joe, could convince us otherwise. Where we were going to go. And it takes a village to raise a champion. But for Tessa and I, Ilderton was that village. Shh don't tell the people in London this afternoon. (I didn't catch the next sentence, something about this is special?)
The people in this village and in this township are second to none in my opinion of around the world. It's unbelievable the amount of support and I can't ever imagine a community being more supportive of a little boy with a crazy dream. And I am so fortunate for that. When you walk, when you drive into this town from all four corners, ya you see our names. But the thing that I am most proud of is that it's both of our names 'cause Ilderton always understood that. How it was important to my heart and I never forgot that.
It's a big reason why Lion's Club is the recipient of today of the $10,000 dollars. It had to stay in Ilderton, I'm very proud of what the Lion's Club does. A group of people that get together and enjoy being a community together and also make the money go to a great cause. That's amazing for me.
Hum. When we grew up, Tessa and I wanting to be figure skaters, there was so many big parts of our lives. But it all started here, the Ilderton Skating Club. With the same coach both Tessa and I had, my Aunt Carol.
She's pretty good at picking partners. I will say that. This one seemed to last a little bit longer and the first one that she gave me is now my fiancĂŠe. So that works alright. Um so, and I'm always inspired by the passion that my aunt, and my mother, and my family members, cousins, brothers, father and uncle still have for the Ilderton Skating Club. And what you do for young people in this community to be able to put on skates for the first time and enjoy their experience on the ice, which is uniquely Canadian in my opinion and it just makes me so proud to be in the family and, mom and dad I just, it should be you up there with what you guys have given me. Always so supportive, never stepping in, we always felt we were the luckiest kids to have those parents who would remortgage their house a couple times so we could go skate in Detroit, or whatever it was. But never ask why. And to me that was so huge in our career.
I wasnât expecting to see Patrice and Marie France here today, letâs go there for a couple minutes because theyâre truly the most inspirational story in Canadian figure skating in my opinion. They were Canadian champions, honestly everyone in this community knows they were the Canadian champions before us. They were always looking out for us. Even as competitors. Even when I was the annoying 16 year old coming into the change room and all my buddies know what my attitude was like when I was 16. The whole community knows I was a little bit cocky.
But Patrice always looked out for me, Marie France also was there for Tessa. They taught us how to be adults, they taught us how to be professionals. On the competition ice and the show ice. Many lessons that we still take with us today. And then when we walked into their skating school and the way that they accepted us, this is a Canadian story that I donât think gets told as much as it should be. Patrice and Marie France have the best figure skating school in the world hands down, in Montreal, where they are making, I wonât speak for you but, they have opportunities elsewhere in the world and they choose to bring it here to Canada. Bring the world to Canada in order to have the most successful ice dance school, and I am so proud of you guys for that. No one deserves it more.
(Applause and camera pans to MF and Patch).
Why do we do this apart from each other? This is awful. (Tessa says something unintelligible). Thank-you. Patch um, something about you brother. I donât know what it is, youâve been able to control that fire in me and still let it burn bright and make me into the person that I am today. And I canât think of any other person who has had quite the impact that youâve had on me. And any time that you call me, my phone will always be on for you. I love you so much man, thank-you so much for everything youâve done for me.
(Scott emotional).
Everybody else, how do I do that, yeah now everybody else. I could go on all day. And I might still so sit tight but this community is so special, I know that Iâve touched on that already, but every time in our life that weâve accomplished something, weâve always come home to banners on the door, to signs on the arena, to celebrations here at the arena that I donât know were going to happen. Like today. And that support urged us on more that you can ever imagine. Being an athlete, especially being figure skaters, we found it quite lonely and dark at times. And I think we had one of the best journeys that you could possibly have. We relied on this community and you were there for us and you were there for me. I will never forget that so the reason why I am the most excited about this star, because even though it says our names, it stands for what we accomplished as a community. And the support that everybody gave me, Paul MacIntosh, Suzanne Killingwood, our coaches, Western Ontario (he named a couple more people) lovely people in this community, step up and make a difference in young peopleâs lives. Like us. And many of the stories that you donât hear, that donât get stars on the Walk of Fame. Theyâre doing the same, and thatâs what this star stands for. It stands for the next generation. I look down at my beautiful niece and nephews down here and I just canât wait for them to go and chase their dreams. Any kid in this country should have limitless opportunities. Thatâs what Canadaâs all about. And I can say that Iâm very proud of this community because I think that theyâre doing a great job of living out their Canadian promise. Thank-you so much everybody. I love you very much. Hope you have a fantastic day.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z1DhHJfTF8A
Tessa Virtue's ever-changing career
Playerâs Own Voice â Anastasia Bucsis & Tessa Virtue â Released June 12, 2019 32:42 https://www.cbc.ca/player/play/1535583299556
Intro:
A: Sheâs half of Canadaâs greatest Ice Dancing Duo. The most decorated figure skaters in Olympic history. And now, Tessa Virtue has sashayed from amateur glory to a dazzling professional career. When she and Scotty Moir in the cream of figure skating arenât performing to packed houses, Tessa has advocacy work and endorsements and campaign partnerships, almost too many to name. She is simply everywhere. Put on the earbuds, itâs time for a cozy chat with the one and only Tessa Virtue.
(Music Break)
A: Itâs Playerâs Own Voice, Iâm Anastasia Bucsis.
Are you more athletic or artistic? Because it seems like incredible success in figure skating but you also have this other side, fashion, media, everything like where does your passion lie now?
T: Hm, I think itâs still in the balance between the two and thatâs what I always loved about skating. You know it was so technically demanding uh and yet the artistry and the art that accompanied that allowing people and hopefully connecting with people so that they feel something was always a driving force for both Scott and me. And now I think the balance is more about you know business and art, which is not so different really but Iâm learning so much, itâs been a steep learning curve and in fact Iâve been studying a bit and I hope to pursue that a little more even next year but you know sort of learning on the fly. I get so much joy out of negotiating a contract as I do designing a new pair of eyewear for Bon Look. You know I think itâs all of that sort of the marriage between the two, and I feel so lucky that I get to do both.
A: I love the artistry and the athleticism of figure skating. I said that to Jo Rochette, she was on the podcast and she was like âWhat, like I didnât know that you were such a figure skating fanâ and I that is what I love about figure skating, is that itâs so physically demanding but so artistic. I remember watching Oxana Bayul win in â94 and I was like I want to be a figure skater. My parents didnât allow me to do it. I was going to be too tall.
T: Well and in your world you had to do the same motion (garbled as Anastasia is talking over Tessa) repeatedly
A: Itâs not very artistic.
T: So did you have to find an outlet to sort of feed that creative part of your soul?
A: Yes and talking about the balance and getting pleasure out of having a business deal or creative glasses. I had a little astigmatism that I might need some of those glasses. How do you find that now going from preparing for the Olympics to seemingly a million projects.
T: Itâs strange and no matter how prepared you are I donât think you can fully anticipate the feelings and emotions that come with a post Olympic sort of crash or transition if you will. I mean I ticked all the boxes, I had school, I had a great support network, I had success that we you know stepped away from competition whether temporarily or permanently on our own terms, I mean I was so so fortunate and privileged to be in that position. And also I had opportunities and yet still thereâs that inherent just void. I think when youâve, you know, worked for something with such singular focus and you invest everything, every moment of your day is filled with moments of will this help me win the Olympics and then youâre sort of thrust into this world where you are trying to do a hundred different things and maybe not all that will and thereâs no chance to sort of insulate yourself into that protected bubble in order to pursue a dream. There were a lot of shifts and challenges in the last year but also really surprising highlights because itâs also refreshing and liberating to sort of feel that pressure come off and slowly. I can almost feel it tangibly as the days go by that Iâm feeling less of that stress and I didnât realize what a heavy weight that was to carry. That Olympic you know pressure.
A: Olympic pressure, fame, how lonely is that?
T: It can be isolating, it can be. I feel so lucky because you know people always ask what changes when you win the Olympics, are you a different, what changes in your life. Do you feel different and the reality is that nothing really does so um we/I have a great group of friends, my family has always been supportive and I mean Iâm so sort of caught up in work that there arenât many opportunities to even face that in fact I think that when I am on my own then Iâm very comfortable so I kind of embrace it. It can be isolating only because sometimes I just feel caught in this balancing act of wanting to be vulnerable and honest and then also not wanting to sound ungrateful or complain right and as a private person also just managing you know how much of yourself do you give to others and how much do you keep for yourself? And in wanting to share my story and have some kind of impact on others, specifically young girls and athletes, you know you have to put yourself out there a little bit and that sort of just comes with the territory.
A: And thatâs exhausting though too, I mean when I was struggling with my mental health that was really what you just summarized, that itâs like Iâm skating around in a circle for a living I mean making good money, I get to see the world, all my college is paid for you know, what do I have to complain about. So I completely identify when you say you know I donât want to come across as being ungrateful because you have had a lot of opportunities.
T: What was the impetus for you to come out and speak openly about your mental health?
A: I never want anyone to feel like theyâre alone and I donât want anyone to feel that way because I have felt so incredibly alone. I felt that when I was in the closet too. Really struggling and I think vulnerability in human connection is really one of the only things that never will go out of style.
T: Right, and weâre all craving that now. You know the ability to really connect on a deeper level and you I think thatâs something thatâs so empowering and youâve impacted so many people just by using your voice. I think thatâs admirable.
A: Thank-you.
T: Course.
A: What do you not do in public now that. Like what can you now do in public?
T: Ooh, Â Â Â thatâs a good question. Itâs Iâve never been really much of a partier so that was always something I was cognizant of and not being photographed with an alcoholic beverage or something.
A: Iâve tried to get you drunk so many times.
T: (Giggling) Iâm sure itâs worked on occasion but you know thatâs not really been a sacrifice for me, I think what donât I do in public. Thatâs a good question?
A: This is like one question I donât even know where it fits in but Iâm like what kind of toothpaste does Tessa Virtue use? Do you use, I mean do you
T: Colgate.
A: Ya, big wink. Like what are you cheap about? When you go to a supermarket and youâre like oh toilet paper is on sale, are you getting that sale?
T: I donât find myself in a grocery store that often because Iâm not at home a ton. I donât even know IâŚok well Iâm going to flip that because one thing that I will indulge in Iâll always have fresh flowers at home. That would be something that I treat myself to.
A: I like fresh flowers too.
T: Yeah, and certain things when I am on the road whether itâs candles, soap, lotion just things that make me feel like Iâm in my comfort of home environment, right.
A: I steal all the lotion from hotels.
T: Do you?
A: I got so many little hotel things and Iâm like making money.
T: Do you have a favourite?
A: Ah no, you know I probably just a good old Ramada, whatever they use. Thatâs my go to.
T: Classic. (laughs)
A: Um so Scotty was of course on the podcast and I pulled a quote he said âat times I didnât know how to handle my relationship with Tessa.â What do you think he meant by that?
T: (Long pause, then a sigh). Iâm not sure I think in any case when youâve had a partnership that spans over 2 decades across the early childhood years, teenage you know into our twenties now thirties, of course itâs there are complexities that are just hard to comprehend and itâs all weâve known so itâs also really hard to have any sort of objective perspective on it and until maybe thereâs an outsider you trust to weigh in like a sports psychologist or a mental prep coach that we worked with but, I think probably in the pressure to identify what that partnership meant to us and in how it could be labeled or how it could be relatable for others to really understand, maybe thatâs where that confusion comes in because itâs something that weâve valued and cherished and nurtured. Weâve really worked hard at that partnership and that relationship and but when you are so in it I think perhaps weâre the people that understand it the least.
(If you wanted characters youâve got characters â sounds like Sharon Orbourne â if you wanted feelings well you drowned in it)
A: Very interesting because you guys are quite a bit different too.
T: Oh weâre so different.
A: Like your thereâs
T: Yeah talk about balance right that was the beginning. I think thatâs what really works for us.
(They are the greatest ice dancers of their generation maybe of all time â announcer â the incomparable Virtue and Moir â different announcer)
T: I mean you know weâre such different people but you put us on the ice together and thatâs our safe place, thatâs where no matter what is happening we come together and we work towards a common goal, and we really feed off of each other. I mean Scottâs all heart, heâs such a feeler and Iâm in my head and you know we can bring out the best in one another and I think with that nurtured level of support that weâve given each other, we really are our best when weâre on the ice together. And itâs fun, even now to sort of step back into that world and feel that comfort and ease and we had sort of a break of seeing each other and skating together. Recently we got back on the ice and started stroking around together and Scott said ah itâs like a security blanket you know and thereâs such comfort with that.
A: Youâre differences obviously you just said you can feed off of it, at times did that breed chaos? Like were you too different? How do you keep that manageable.
T: I think the pursuit of something like an Olympic gold breeds chaos because there are so many moving parts and so much expectation on ourselves and from others. But when we really fundamentally started to understand that we process things differently and approach things very differently we were able to sort of separate that and you know always come together and say this is how Iâm interpreting your actions right now. True or false (little giggle) oh and give the other person a chance to explain or you know, I think if anything weâre maybe a little too protective of one another because weâre the team that you know if something happens and it doesnât go very well Iâll say Iâm so sorry that was my fault and heâll say no it was me, and you know so I think we go to great lengths to ensure that we both feel confident and comfortable on the ice.
A: You guys will forever be linked together. Um itâs given you a million opportunities but how difficult and Iâm sure youâve been asked this one millions times, and I apologize hereâs one million and one. First date how often are you asked are you dating? I mean when you go on a date is that what everyone asks you?
T: Well I hope Iâm not saying yes to any dates then they think that Iâm somehow still in a relationship with Scott. I think anyone coming into my life in that capacity knows the situation with Scott because I mean thereâs no hiding it and itâs been since I was seven so it would come as no surprise to anyone that I have a meaningful relationship with Scott.
(LONG musical break)
A: Letâs go back. 2010, 2014, 2018 whatâs your favourite Olympic moment?
T: As an athlete? Nothing tops being on the ice in Pyoncheang. We were so laser focused and dialed in and so incredibly prepared. And just different athletes we were mature, we had a different approach, a different team with B2 Ten and we were, we really were unstoppable. And that feeling was palpable. That electricity and it almost felt like a home games because there were so many Canadian flags and supporters. I would say as an entire experience, a month long experience, Sochi. Which always surprises people because often people sort of avoid the Sochi subject with us, they think maybe itâs a point of contention but really it was such a beautiful moment in our career, we came together and we were proud of our performances and there was something about the team, it was so tightly knit. The Olympic bubble was easily accessible I mean you could get to so many different events, I donât know there was just, it was so much fun. I often say it was the best month of my life.
A: Sochi was the best time in my life. Iâm the happiest I think Iâve ever been right now but for an actual experience, Sochi like 52 billion dollars, oh my god we can never do that again, like talk about Olympic excess Iâm ashamed about that but for just fun and womenâs hockey team winning, like the team was a family I donât even know how to
T: Is that what it was?
A: It was the team.
T: It was special.
A: In Vancouver we were treated like rock stars and it was unbelievable but like there was, the one thing about Vancouver was that we were downtown essentially so you could go on one of those electric bikes and be surrounded by hundreds of thousands of drunk Canadians all being super pumped up but you kind of got lost. The team aspect kind of got lost in that. Because everyone was visiting their families, and in Sochi there was nothing to do.
T: There was only two places. Swiss house really.
A: So when everyone was done like finished competingâŚRussians like their vodka. Yes thatâs ya. Um Sochi being the highlight for party culture, Pyeonchang being the
T: You said party culture
A: Pyeonchang being highlight for the sport, what was your weakest aspect of being a figure skater do you think?
T: Like my weakness as a skater? Oh geez I mean how long do we have here? I feel I could go on and on about all the things I would still like to improve upon in my own skating. Whether thatâs posture, power, ability to express specific styles of movement, just so much that I wish that I did better, so much I wish I could do better but thatâs what keeps us going. Even in preparing for our upcoming tour this fall itâs the idea that we still have more potential to explore and more in us to give. And I realize that in the Pyeonchang preparation that for my whole career I was striving for that performance where I would feel I had really perfected it and nailed it, and great as Moulin Rouge felt on the ice in Korea, I knew even at the time that I would look back and wish that I had done some things differently because itâs just the nature of the beast in a subjective sport like that. You know Iâll always watch that video and wish that my hands were different or I wish that I you know moved my upper body you know in a better way or something but Iâve just sort of had to come to terms with that and I think that in of itself is kind of beautiful because you just sort of have to accept the moment given all of the factors surrounding a four minute performance, itâs the moment that you could create and thatâs sport. Thatâs what I love about it.
A: How has growing up as a figure skater obviously being judged affected how you live your life?
T: As I approach thirty I think have such a better understanding of who I am and what I stand for and what I think my purpose is and can be and how I see myself and thatâs what I place most value now are those closest to me you know itâs affected I think it forced me to do a lot of self reflection and forced me to analyze really whatâs important. And so often itâs not what we look like or how we present. Itâs about how we make people feel and how we empower others. I feel so much more confident and comfortable in my own skin now and Iâm grateful for that. I think probably a part of that was because I was in a judged sport for such a long time and had other people deciding my fate and success, and that was you know sort of the benchmark you aim for but itâs in the hands of others and at some point you just have to think ok itâs not the colour that will dictate the kind of person I am.
A: Do you ever feel pressure to answer questions the way you know people want them answered.
T: Not really. Not really because Iâm not sure I know how people want them answered. I was always sort of conscious and careful to not become that robotic sort of you know I gave 110% and we always wanted to give people insight into what was happening but at the same time I mean you can only share what youâve come to terms with in your own head, and no matter what I it was important for me to be genuine so Iâm not sure that I even still know how I should be answering things. But if Iâm honest and if it comes from a place of authenticity then I think that that intention, I hope that comes through at least.
A: I sometimes feel pressure when people ask about the Olympics because I feel as though I need to tell then a little nugget about playing ping pong and beer pong with Sydney Crosby, you know what I mean how is it when NHL boys, oh Marc-Andre Fleuryâs really nice.
T: You want to give, share your experience but thatâs nice and I think thatâs something Canadians crave, but also do you feel a bit of pressure when people talk about your success and the accolades or think does that come along with
A: People donât talk about my success.
T: Well they should, youâre career was formidable but sometimes I think thereâs a pressure if anything just to throw in those reminders of just how much work it takes right because if you are going to be a role model people need to understand that itâs not just about the podiums and the sponsorships, itâs about all of the work and the resilience and the sacrifice and the deprivation and everything that goes into it, so if anything sort of shining some light on that end then to ensure that thereâs a greater awareness of the holistic approach to their career maybe.
A: I think you must be one of the most hard working athletes I have ever met and Iâm celebrating of course every sponsorship and opportunity that you have ever gotten post Olympics. I hope youâre making at least fifteen bucks and hour because you work so hard.
T: Thank-you.
A: Again you have not taken one breath you havenât taken a breather. Going from competition to shows, amateur to professional, how does it change your goals, does it change your goals? Does it change your relationship with Scott?
T: It changes everything and nothing at the same time. It ah, weâve had to redefine what it means to entertain and youâre sort of entertaining the masses instead of nine judges. And yet sort of satisfy some creative need in you as an artist. So itâs sort of finding that the precipice of challenging yourself enough so that itâs satisfying and rewarding but also playing to your strengths and playing the hits, so that the audience is getting what they want and what theyâve expected. And Iâm not sure weâve found that yet but weâre playing with it and itâs changed in that and Iâm trying to do some self analysis you know even just as I am back on the ice these days, you know how do I feel in this realm and I miss the benchmark of being THE best and I certainly miss being at OUR best. But I think thatâs ok if weâre not because the goal has shifted. We never will be at that Olympic peak again and weâre so lucky that we get to do our sport and craft for an extended period of time. Iâm sure that every single other sport and athlete wishes they had that chance. I donât want to waste it but thatâs part of why we wanted to do product our own show and tour so that it wasnât just four minutes that we had to tell a story, it was two hours that we could bring people along with us and control the lights, and the ambiance, and the music, and the flow of things and I think when we can dive in to a project like that thatâs and invest ourselves and commit that that is more fulfilling that you know just throwing on a costume doing a one-off.
(Music break).
A: You and Scott have ushered in that renaissance golden age of figure skating, I mean I donât think itâs been this popular since Tonya Harding.
T: There was something certainly to the Pyeonchang games and Iâm not sure maybe it was because the NHL guys werenât there, the social media had an impact but thereâs also been a different focus on dance in general in our culture, itâs become more mainstream with shows like So You Think You Can Dance and Dancing with the Stars and I think that accessibility to the arts in that realm has certainly been more present and magnified so Iâm not sure that we can take all that credit but itâs very nice of you to say.
A: The one skater that I do miss is Joanie Rochette. Sorry to bring up her name again but we/I had one of the best nights of my life with you at her house.
T: That was a great
A: The white wine and oyster night
T: That was so fun. Sheâs a special well I mean sheâs just an incredible woman and sheâs such a force but sheâs someone who got better and more consistent in her show skating life. Almost after the pressure of competition she really found her rhythm and her style and was constantly pushing herself and was so nonchalant about it. You would see her afterward and say oh the number was ok but then every night I would go out and watch her on tour and she just delivered and was so constant and I saw that and was so inspired and impressed and really awed by her tenacity.
A: You have accomplished everything that there is to accomplish. Iâm very proud of you. How do you define success now?
T: Iâm working on that. Iâm working on that. The new definition and I think itâs, Iâm starting to learn what it feels like when Iâm doing something that has meaning and relevance and purpose and something that gets beneath the surface and feels substantial and significant and whether that is work with FitSpirit and creating access for young girls and in schools to activities to resources so that they can stay physically fit or partnering with someone who is equally motivated to foster this new narrative of self esteem in young girls, because it does need to change, it needs to shift. I guess itâs really about the fulfillment of a certain process instead of the end result and the end goal and it was Adam van Hoeverden when he retired who said heâll never be the best at anything again, and you know so that benchmark has to change and thatâs ok thatâs healthy and itâs also really exciting. So I think itâs just about finding things that spark something or ignite a new passion and fire within me. Iâm not sure Iâve totally found it yet but Iâm ok with that too.
(Music break)
A: Where do you see yourself in ten years?
T: In ten years, I think running some business I mean Iâm hoping to study more seriously next year and I know that thatâs where my passion lies, and as an athlete Iâve had to be my own boss for most of my career, all of my career and so maybe something entrepreneurial, not sure what shape that will take exactly but Iâm learning so much and Iâm surrounded by so many incredible mentors who are helping to guide that and show me what is possible. Iâm also really excited you know maybe in that sphere itâs not really about me, it can be about a company but itâs not my face and my likeness and image and personality out at the forefront. I think Iâll be happy to take a back seat.
A: I was just going to say because you are so public facing but you are a very private person.
T: Right.
A: And that has to be exhausting in some capacity.
T: I think Iâve come to terms with really just making the most of the opportunities presented to me and this is where I am right now, this is the work that is available to me, and I love work and the byproduct of that you know there are some sacrifices but thatâs the case with any kind of job. So Iâm happy to work for that now itâs just I also need to know where itâs leading and there has to be sort of an end goal to it.
A: Do you want kids?
T: I donât know.
A: Me too! Like Iâm almost turning thirty and I donât know what I want for my own life. Like and it doesnât freak me out though, I thought I wanted to get married, I wanted to have four kids.
T: Hm, and thatâs changing a little bit?
A: Yeah.
T: Yeah, Iâm the youngest of four Iâve always been surrounded by adults. When I was nine my best friend was twenty-five and now some of my best friends are in their sixties and seventies and so Iâve never really had that maternal instinct? But itâs also sort of abstract to me and perhaps if I found that partner where I thought Iâm going to do this as a team, you know letâs do this together and create a little family unit. But itâs not top of mind.
A: Weâre all just trying to figure it out. Thank-you baby girl for taking the time. I really appreciate it.
T: Thank-you. What a pleasure.
A: Tessa Virtue itâs always a pleasure. Come visit more!
T: I will.
A: Come to my birthday.
T: I would love to although it doesnât sound like itâs going to be a rager, not that thatâs why I would be signing up.
A: No. Weâre gonna (then they start talking over each other).
T: No PJs and
A: Seriously, Iâll probably watch Netflix and go to bed. I wonât even have a glass of wine. Iâm tired.
T: Yeah. Weâll have to celebrate thatâs for sure.
A: Thank-you.
âTessa and I recorded that chat in studio three nineteen here in the broadcast centre in downtown Torontoâ.
Her Mark Podcast
Kate Beirness @ TSNÂ
K: We are now joined by the most decorated figure skater in Olympic history. How does that sound by the way?
T: It sounds strange, but I think also thereâs an asterisk because weâre/we cheated. I mean there
K: What?
T: was the team event just came in in 2014.
K: OK.
T: So, I feel we have to you know sort of indicate that when we (mumbling) well thank-you.
K: Welcome Tessa Virtue to the Her Mark Podcast and thank-you so much for coming on. Cheryl Pounder would have loved to have been here but sheâs so busy.
T: Weâre missing Cheryl ya
K: she couldnât fit it in her schedule. I did ask before she left, I said is there anything youâd want me to ask Tessa and she said âMay I have one of her sponsorship dealsâ. So which one are you going to give up? Are you going to give up The Brick, you going to give up Nivea, what are you giving Poundy?
T: Iâm not sure, how about just some product?
K: Some product? See Cheryl, there you go, youâre going to have great skin and youâre going to sleep on a delightful mattress.
T: Youâre going to be well rested.
K: I love it.
T: Youâll see well with the BonLook glasses, look stylish.
K: So, Cheryl and I met at the Pyeongchang Olympics and thatâs where I think you and I met in person for the very first time as well.
T: Which I was such a fan of yours as well I felt like we had known each other, was it at the airport?
K: It was at the airport.
T: In the lounge yeah
K: And you came up to me and Iâm just like oh my youâd just won all this stuff and we had the most delightful conversation and that it⌠you are exactly I think what people see on TV is what you get in real life.
T: Oh thatâs nice, what a compliment thank-you.
Transcript of Inside Sports with Reid Wilkins, special guest Kaetlyn Osmond Dec 19 Podcast with Scott Moir
RW: but we have a very special guest, checking in, he is the Moir part of Virtue & Moir, 5 time Olympic medalist, Scott Moir. Scott youâre on with Reid and Kaetlyn, how are you doing sir?
SM: Iâm doing great, what an honour to be on here, way to go K.O.
KO: Thanks Scott, itâs good to talk to you
SM: ha ha ha, itâs great to be on, those Lightning has a good hockey team, Iâm down in Tampa right now, so Iâve watched those guys a couple of nights, so no joke, good luck
KO: haha, that was actually going to be one of my questions, what hockey team are you cheering for?
SM: itâs tough to figure that out but, uh yeah Iâm a huge Leafs fan, I think a lot of people know that but, Iâm just waiting for Connor McDavid and company to get things going out there
KO: I was going to say better cheer for some Oilers
SM: hahaha
RW: Scott youâve had the honour to travel and compete across Canada for for most of your adult life, so Iâm sure you know we in Edmonton how much listeners love hearing about the Toronto Maple Leafs and how good theyâre doing
[everyone laughs]
SM: thatâs OK, itâs a long way from the season being over
KO: haha, speaking of seasons being over, what are you up to now?
Virtue Moir Lindt Master Class Talk 1 (uploaded youtube August 2015) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H8dX2xEjAlQ
Tessa and Scottâs Journey (Crank up volume or use headphones. They started skating together when she was 7 and he was 9)
 Tessa and Scott are in the front of a room sitting on a table
 S â that we were 7 and 9 and skating at a little skating club called the Ilderton Skating Club, and my aunt coached both of us and decided that, I think it was just so we would skate together, they thought it was cute. We werenât very good, we didnât like to hold hands, we didnât talk.
T â no we didnât
S â So, we had no idea that we were going to be Olympic ice dancers when we were 7 and 9
T â we always say that the sport chose us because we never consciously made that decision, but, we started skating together sort of just doing a few dances together and we had fun, we really liked it, and maybe after about 10 months or so we actually started talking too so that (muffled canât understand), but every year our parents would sit us down and (she sees someone and says) do you need a chair? (gets up and says) we have extra ones here
S â (Scott also gets up and says) thereâs chairs (they give out chairs), do you want a chair chair so you donât have to roll around? (motioning to someone off camera, they say no) Oh you like rolling around. How about you guys back there? (motions to someone in the back of the room), you sure? OK, Iâll use it for my feet then (sits back on the table and puts his feet on the chair)
T â (sits back down on the table) save your legs (unintelligible), um, so our parents would sit us down every year and ask if we wanted to commit to skating one more season together and we were never allowed to quit in the middle of a season but every year we said yes, we were enjoying it, and we had success pretty early, we won the juvenile nationals when we were I donât know about this tall (indicating with her hand how small they were), we were the smallest and youngest team, not sure we could even see over the boards
S â donât think so
T â but uh that was a first kind of taste of standing on the podium and receiving a medal and we realized OK we want to just continue to get better and better so set our sights on pre-Novice, Novice, and just sort of continue that way
S â once we got up to Novice we started competing at a pretty serious level then um our parents would drive from, we live in London Ontario, and we were training in Waterloo so our parents would have to wake up at 4:30 in the morning and drive us to Kitchener/Waterloo so we could train for 3 hours and then drive us all the way back for school. We werenât able to get the hours that we wanted to um so when we were 13 and 15, Tessa skipped 8th grade and we went to Waterloo to live there permanently, away from our parents
T â yes so we were quite young to move away from home at just 13 and 15, but uh we lived with families there and we were training every day and training with teams that were pushing us to be better and we would skate 3 hours in the morning, we would go to school, and then come back to the rink or return to the rink and do ballet and workout and um dancing, things like that and often then we would go home and do some homework, have dinner, and really be in bed before 8 or around 8 PM. So that wasnât normal for high students I donât think, we didnât really do any semi-formals, no parties or movies, no sleepovers, we kind of missed out because we were so focused on training
S â and we were away from our families so it was really odd but we had a great coaching staff there, we billeted with some fantastic families and uh one coach in particular, ah Suzanne Killing [Sp.], our choreographer, um she would sit us down every week and weâd talk about goals, talk about what our goal was for us every day, what our goal was for the week, what our goal was for the month, and the season and so on. And what we also talked about is how each other are feeling, and more specifically how our actions made each other feel, and um started to really communicate. We would challenge each other, she challenged us to watch other teams on the ice (pause) fighting, yelling at each other, sheâd ask âwhat are they getting accomplished, like how are they going to do when it comes time to compete?â, and that was a big start to our relationship where we had to communicate and we also had to have this level of respect that we kept through our whole career. We never told each other to shut up, we donât raise our voices at each other, our biggest fight goes something like this (he looks down and stops talking), weâre very very sensitive people and what we found is that just not talking to each other is hurtful, we had to make sure that we didnât hurt each other because we needed each other to be at our best, so I think ever since that those meetings, we are each otherâs biggest fans
T â hm, we sorta cultivated our code of respect and set boundaries for um, you know we never name called, we donât blame one another, and those are things that were just never crossed those lines, so even still 18 years later we have that understanding and that trust, that took a long time to work on, but ah
S â we were successful
T â ya we did well in Waterloo but when we were 15 and 17 we needed to make another change, um Waterloo we were sort of the top team in the rink, and we were still just in Junior, we needed to be around, we needed to skate with more senior teams, people who were better than us, world champions, and people who we were aspiring to skate with, so we moved to Michigan. Um and that was another big shift, because I still couldnât drive and Scott had to drive me everywhere to get groceries, or to the rink, or to the gym, or everything, we were each otherâs family, we relied on one another, but was also a big shift in our coaching staff because in Waterloo they were like our family members, and they were warm and they were encouraging, supportive and in Michigan we switched to some Russian coaches and the dynamic was entirely different, it was quite intimidating, and quite an aggressive style of coaching that we werenât used to, and a lot of new things, we couldnât go to regular high school, we couldnât live with families, um we had to grow up pretty quickly
S â and um I can remember when we were driving across the border (garbled speech) and 15 and was something we would do together which was dangerous in itself (garbled speech), um weâd get to the border and they would think that we were eloping, and I was stealing Tessa from her parents, so we used to have to have a letter from her parents, a letter from my parents, a letter from Skate Canada, to cross the border every day, um but we grew really close in this time, because like Tessa said, we live with older skaters and we needed to be there for each other, and so here we are with these really intimidating Russian coaches, weâre both so scared out of mind, but our skating starts to get better, the (something) stuff that they taught us just kinda passed on to you today, ah you know their coaching style was magnificent (something garbled) teams and we love the product that theyâre giving us. So we started to kind of get better and better and better. And um it was around 2005 that we moved there and 2006 when had our first shot at the Olympic Games. So we went to the National Championships knowing that we needed to be the top 2, and then we had a very we thought, we had trained all year, we were ready to go to the Olympics, so we ended up 3rd in the a compulsory dance segment, and then we were 2nd in the original dance and 2nd in the free dance, but ended up 3rd overall by .02 (Tessa gives a wry smile), so we thought that Skate Canada was going to send us to the games because we were young, and we wanted to win Vancouver, so they thought that they would see the future and that we needed to go to a Games, but, we were wrong. They didnât send us to the Olympics and we were crushed.
T â I remember just feeling like everything was crumbling down, and everything we had worked for was, was um absolutely devastating Iâve never cried harder probably and still to this day I just thought, you know, we missed our chance and that was just devastating. They had even sent us we have all of the sort of destination Torino gear, so we had t-shirts, baseball hats (unintelligible)
S â our Olympic accreditation
T â yes, we had everything, we were at home watching the Olympics from our couches, and it was then that we made a decision, you know, 4 years from now, weâre not going to leave anything to chance, we have to be there and we have to be the best position as possible to win. Um, so we sort of retrained it and decided, OK, we canât go to the Olympics, but we have Junior Worlds this year, we ended up going and winning, um we were motivated, we wanted to prove a point to everyone and to make a statement, and uh, so that was really successful but it was then that we sort of started on this 4 year plan to the Vancouver Games. And things were going along nicely. Our first year Senior we were 6th at Worlds, and our second year we won the free dance at our 2nd Worlds. That was a big leap and we thought OK, in 2008 this is great, weâll be 2nd, we planned to win in 2009 Worlds and then we just go and win the Olympics. And that just seemed easy
S â easy (they say it at the same time)
T â we just had it figured out. So, in order to do that, um, in 2008, we decided we needed to work as hard as humanly possible, so we started skating or training 13/14 hour days, at the rink, um because we thought that working longer meant working smarter or working harder, and little did we know at the time that that was probably the worst thing that we could have done because surprise surprise I ended up with an overuse injury. So I had pain in my shins, uh basically my muscles were being strangulated âcause I could skate for 20 or 30 seconds at a time âtil I had to stop when there was numbness and cramping and
S â and stop working
T â ya it was a really hard thing to explain and no one could diagnose it âcause itâs not a common injury so, eventually I mean we were sitting in our team doctorâs office and she said well âyou have compartment syndrome and itâs a chronic thing, there is a surgery so we could try the surgery which may or may not work, or you know the alternative is just to stop skating, and to stop competingâ. Weâre a year and a half out of the Olympics so that wasnât a choice a question for me, um I ended up getting the surgery and I spent my time rehabbing and doing physio in London Ontario when after the surgery, and Scott was trainingâŚ
 Virtue Moir Lindt Master Class Talk 2 (uploaded youtube August 2015)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FWY_PgHbK8g&t=610s
T â I think I was reluctant to tell him about the pain I was experiencing and I felt like I was disappointing him or somehow letting the team down, and I just couldnât bear to get myself to deliver that disappointing news every day
S â and I felt like uh I was training really well and hard, I was skating with a sand bag and a hockey stick, just like trying to do anything so when Tessa came back I was ready, um and I didnât want to remind her that I was just waiting there ready to go every single day, and I was training hard and I was in great shape, I kinda felt guilty about that too, so our relationship really struggled really suffered (garbled), now coming back with this injury not only does Tessa have to get over the fact that she just learned kind of how to re-walk again with her legs âcause remember her injury was on both legs, um thatâs quite a process, so, also the one of the hardest parts was the we just didnât communicate with each other during this time, and we had this weird, didnât know how to look at each other, we didnât know how to talk to each other, and that was probably one of the weirdest times in our partnership
T â it was really strange, we sort of pushed through we had Nationals, Four Continents, and Worlds in that winter championship series, and we would, guys you can appreciate this, we would step on the ice, and because I was still in pain we couldnât train the way we were used to, so we would get on the ice for a competition without ever having done a full run through of our program, or maybe having done one at home
S â this is like World Championship stuff
T â so we would start, and we would just sort of cross our fingers and hope to make it to the end and hope that adrenaline carried us through, um, thatâs the worst feeling, unprepared, and not ready, that was a big struggle, and on top of that to not have that trust and loyalty in the safety net that you know we came to rely on in our partnership, so that was challenging and we thought that once that season was done we ended up 3rd at Worlds which was it was respectable, no team had ever won the Olympics without first having won Worlds, so it seemed an impossible task to prepare for the Vancouver Olympics and think that we would win, and yet, we still decided that that was our goal
S â so weâre one year out of the Olympics, and remember we talked about the little relationship problem between the two of us so we decided to make it, we both knew that we needed to find a way to come together and stronger so did start taking a bit of counseling which was kinda like marriage counseling, uh the guy that we went to was a marriage counselor and a sports psychologist, so we used him for both but then again we started talking about our feelings, and how each other were feeling, um that was huge for us, we still actually worked on it up to the Games and it wasnât easy, itâs not like we sat down once and we just itâs like OK everything is perfect, water under the bridge, we had to work on the whole season and uh what a lot of people donât know as well with the Vancouver Games, Tessa was still very hurt, the pain in her shins had gone away uh a little bit but not not for very long and we adapted kind of the (metro?) (a little aside to Tessa, speaking low canât understand), but since we couldnât train like everyone else we needed to make sure that we were trained but we needed to train in our own way. And uh going into the Vancouver Olympics, Tessa was even more hurt, she was doing about 6 or 7 hours of physio a day, but we were very trained, we were very ready for the Olympic Games.
T â and thereâs something about the energy in the building at the Pacific Coliseum in Vancouver that I just felt right, just felt like it was it was our building and we took the ice and I just remember sort of the magnitude of the situation, it was larger than life because judges, and the media watched our every move and and criticized um we were sort of in a horrible position with this we were in the hunt for a medal, and yet, with all of that attention I think our focus narrowed and it was really just the two of us, our little world was all that we saw and that was all that mattered. We took the ice in this little bubble and started forgetting that there were 30 million people watching or you know caring and invested in this, and we skated really well, we had 3 strong performances, um
S â couldnât hear our music for some of them
T â laughs
S â the crowd was so loud
T â it was amazing and itâs really an athleteâs dream come true to represent your country at a home Olympic Games, so standing on the podium and singing Oh Canada with 12,000 people in that building was absolutely incredible and a bit of a whirlwind, it was amazing
S â highlights?
T â absolutely and shortly after that actually we had the World Championships, we won our first world title 3 weeks after that, and I think we were just exhausted
S â in Torino Italy, so destination Torino, we had those shirts, we might not have gone to the Olympics, but we got to win a World Championship
T â (at the same time) we redeemed ourselves
S â I remember being in the final position and watching the tape afterwards and just seeing our faces, we just look exhausted
T â ya we just relieved to have that season done, um, but it didnât take long for us to decide that we wanted to continue, we felt we still had more to give and more potential to explore, we wanted to sort of push ourselves and push the envelope in skating and in ice dance, and um see what else we could do, so we worked with different Cirque du Soleil acrobats on our lifts, we brought in various choreographers, and off-ice dancers, we sort of made that our mission to change up the sport a little bit, um or at least change our dynamic on the ice, uh but I needed another surgery âcause the pain moved not only in just my shins but I got it in my calves as well, um a few months after the Vancouver Games I got a 2nd more aggressive surgery on my legs, but the recovery process went smoother because we kept in touch and we were supportive and learned our lesson (Scott nods approval), so, sort of battled that for a couple of years, actually I considered a 3rd surgery believe it or not, the exact same surgery, um before Sochi Olympics âcause I still had that pain, um and I remember my surgeon just joking that he liked to see new patients every now and then (laughter in the room), but it was then that I was put in touch with a sport scientist physiotherapist and they call him movement whisperer, and he looked at my mechanics and how I moved and how I skated and said well no wonder your calves are so sore, youâre expecting them to do all the work for you. So I wasnât using my glutes and my bigger muscles, you know what we talked about on the ice today, that squat position and I wasnât doing any of that
S â and evidently we were watching tapes, either was I really, um we would watch heâd be pointing out things like saying Tessa look at your hip position here, she used to skate with her hips really forward and not coming back at all, and then Iâd look over to me and I was doing the exact well not quite the exact same thing because obviously I didnât have any pain but there was a lot of room for me to improve as well so it took this advantage that we found through this injury and then made it our style
T â ya
S â a lot of our exercises and stuff that you guys saw today
T â ya we took a lot of video work and it was a way more intellectual and sophisticated way to train because we realized why we were doing what we were doing so we understood why our warmup was important, exactly what muscles we needed to work through for certain things, it was tedious, like learning to write with the other hand, and he would even, this guy would film us doing our cooldown walk, we do this walk when we get off the ice or our session, heâd video that and heâd correct every single step that I made, so that was kind of interesting and just extended it to every exercise that we were doing
S â a couple of you werenât very happy with me when I was (bending in today?) imagine walking to the end of the hallway and back and me being like nope that was wrong, try it again (laughter from the room), just you walking
T â so that was a challenge that I actually was able to skate without pain and that was incredible, we changed a lot of our on-ice training and preparation for competition became more integral work and it was harder that we had ever done before but I was not in pain, so it was amazing leading into the Sochi Olympics, um because I was present and I wasnât getting 7 hours of physio every day as I was in Vancouver, and we were 4 years older and think we were approaching it as if it was our last Games, so it was a totally different experience. We just embraced every part of it, we embraced the (?), we loved chatting with the athletes in the cafeteria, in our workouts, and standing on the podium, theyâve got an outdoor ceremony and we just wanted to be present and to take it all in, and um we knew that 17 years of work sort of led us to that point. So we had our best performances at Sochi Olympics. We couldnât have skated any better and in fact we sort of lucked out. (Scott says something and laughs, but itâs too low to hear). Um in fact I think we felt better about our skates when we got off the ice in Sochi than we did in Vancouver, and we got Silver medals in Sochi, so a lot of people saw that as a failure or as a disappointment, um and (typically?) it wasnât what we wanted
S â we wanted to win
T â we wanted to win, but we were so genuinely satisfied with our skates, our performances that we realized that the colour of the medal didnât define us, didnât identify us, you know it didnât matter what those 9 or 11 people thought about us on the panel, it was really, how do we feel about ourselves, how do we feel about what weâve accomplished, and that was put to the test
S â we got our moment, it was really neat because in 2010 we said to each other weâve done the work so no matter what happens weâre so proud of each other, letâs go out there and have our skate, weâre focused (the video cuts to him saying) the colour of the medal that made the moment special after all was more so what we had together, the 18 years that go into it, mastering our craft, mastering every step of every program, we felt that we did the best that we could
T â so, after that we decided that we needed a bit of a
S â ya we needed a break
T â break (laughs), um we took a year to sort of step away from competing but we challenged ourselves in new ways on the ice, we were performing come around the world, doing tours, we worked with different choreographers, and it was a clean slate because we could create programs without rules, (something about appeasing judges), technical requirements, things like that, so itâs been a really thrilling year for us, we tried to say yes to everything, things that scared us, tried new things
S â work with different choreographers, (something) opportunities outside of the sport, now we have to decide if we want to try for 1 more Olympics, figure out if we, we have to make sure if itâs right, we would love to go to another Olympics, but I think with our 2 experiences, um with Sochi and Vancouver, we are always going to want to be at the Olympics, weâre 75 where we want to be representing Canada in ice dance, itâs just not the reality, so we hope that we have 1 more run in this, but we never know.

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