Untitled

I was correct.

Essentially i forgot how to calculate it manually, so i ran a simulation in my head, based on pure instinct, and measured what happened.

And the answer was correct.

It's how NASA does it

Correct

Your usage of smaller hardware to accomplish a the same task in a different context does indicate exceptional capabilities.

I was correct.

Essentially i forgot how to calculate it manually, so i ran a simulation in my head, based on pure instinct, and measured what happened.

And the answer was correct.

It's how NASA does it

In most parts of the US, a residential electrician works only on houses and apartments. They use romex wire, that yellow cable stuff. You run it from the panel to wherever it's going, staple it to the studs, then make up both ends. You need to know basic electrical code but mostly it's pretty simple. A fast learner could be a decent residential electrician inside a month.

I, on the other hand, am a union industrial electrician. I work primarily in hospitals, factories, and research labs. Most of our wire is run in steel conduit that has to be hand bent on the job, which is an art form in and of itself. We work with much higher voltages, much heavier wire, much more complicated equipment, and we need to know much more of the code. Our apprenticeship is 4-5 years and that's only enough to scratch the surface of everything an industrial electrician might do.

And yes - I absolutely get a little defensive when unknowing people compare me to a residential electrician. There's absolutely a knee-jerk impulse to declare that they're not *real* electricians, that they're merely a pale imitation of what I do. But I fight that impulse because it's a *bad impulse*. Resi still takes skill and work, it's just different than mine. We're both electricians. And it's better for us to work together to improve working conditions for all workers than to get into pissing contests about whose job is more "real". And both our jobs are in increasing danger due to the proliferation of low voltage systems that the average homeowner can install and repair without hiring a professional.

So yeah, I do get it. But it has been very, VERY insulting over the last year to hear people repeatedly say "AI was supposed to replace blue collar jobs, not *my* job! My job is ~special~ because it has ~humanity~!"

Your job is not special. It's not more important than my job and it's not more fulfilling to you than my job is to me. And I don't get to insist that everyone start building homes with steel conduit just so less skilled people can't be electricians, and I don't get to yell at people for hiring a handyman to replace an outlet for $50 when my time would be worth $200.

I'm bored

I fell bad for her. I really do. She was a dumb kid who made a life altering decision without understanding the true meaning or the consequences of that decision based off idk self loathing or peer pressure or whatever.

"KILL YOURSELF KILL YOURSELF KILL YOURSELF KILL YOURSELF KILL YOURSELF KILL YOURSELF"

signals out every second of every day.

Body dysmorphia/dysphoria is a thing that kills trans folks and cis folks alike

And before you say "just go to therapy lol" that's as much use as telling a cis guy who lost his dick in a car crash to "just go to therapy lol"

All trans guy gender care was originally invented for CIS guys with medical conditions. Testosterone gel, binders and top surgery for CIS guys with klinefelter's syndrome. Phalloplasty was for CIS guys who lost their dicks.

Saying that trans guys shouldn't get care is the same as saying that cis guys with Klinefelter's should just learn to love their breasts and their cute girly voices <3

"The medical condition is that the brain is hard-wired in a way that is incompatible with the body"

You don't claim the body is unhealthy, you do claim the brain is malfunctioning. "Again, you're advocating to attack the healthy organs while admitting that the problem is in the brain."

Strike 1.

"Body dysmorphia/dysphoria is a thing that kills trans folks and cis folks alike"

You don't argue that we should treat people with "this arm isn't mine dysphoria" by cutting off their arm, or "my arm should be a bird wing" with "we should stitch a severed bird wing to their body". Glossing that over makes the factoid pointless or disingenuous, so I gave you grace by ignoring it.

Strike 2.

"All trans guy gender care was originally invented for CIS guys with medical conditions. Testosterone gel, binders and top surgery for CIS guys with klinefelter's syndrome. Phalloplasty was for CIS guys who lost their dicks."

So you admit that malfunctions of male organs can be treated with giving it MORE masculine hormones. That the organs which were malfunctioning had to be specifically targeted, rather than the organs which were healthy.

Also, phalloplasty was designed to recreate something that was already there. It wasn't trying to destroy perfectly healthy organs which were already there in order to replace them with crude facsimiles that cannot generate life or even achieve orgasm.

Strike 3.

"The medical condition is that the brain is hard-wired in a way that is incompatible with the body" You don't claim the body is unhealthy, you do claim the brain is malfunctioning. "Again, you're advocating to attack the healthy organs while admitting that the problem is in the brain." Strike 1.

Hard-wired. As in: Something baked into the computer you can't change without it breaking in the process. It doesn't matter how many estrogen pills a guy may take, their brain is already wired to say 'I am a guy' so all you're doing is causing mental issues. Hormones treat the SYMPTOMS of gender dysphoria, they do not solve the CAUSE. And they're less effective than just transitioning. And like many medications- They can stop working.

"Body dysmorphia/dysphoria is a thing that kills trans folks and cis folks alike" You don't argue that we should treat people with "this arm isn't mine dysphoria" by cutting off their arm, or "my arm should be a bird wing" with "we should stitch a severed bird wing to their body". Glossing that over makes the factoid pointless or disingenuous, so I gave you grace by ignoring it. Strike 2.

Yeah because those concepts are so foreign and unusual that they clearly cannot be caused by any sane mind. But having the brain wired the wrong way? There's actually precedent for this: Autism. Autism is also a recognized medical condition that affects how the brain is wired to the point that it hampers social interaction...in a social species.

Sure, you can have therapy for the condition. But you can never CURE it. Because the brain is not malfunctioning, anymore than a computer wired wrong is malfunctioning when it runs certain programs better/worse than other standard computers. The brain is working exactly as it is built.

I would also like to point out that when you pointed to lobotomies, you never actually debunked the idea of this surgery being a lobotomy. You just tried connecting it to gender transitioning...ignoring that lobotomies were usually INVOLUNTARY.

"All trans guy gender care was originally invented for CIS guys with medical conditions. Testosterone gel, binders and top surgery for CIS guys with klinefelter's syndrome. Phalloplasty was for CIS guys who lost their dicks." So you admit that malfunctions of male organs can be treated with giving it MORE masculine hormones. That the organs which were malfunctioning had to be specifically targeted, rather than the organs which were healthy. Also, phalloplasty was designed to recreate something that was already there. It wasn't trying to destroy perfectly healthy organs which were already there in order to replace them with crude facsimiles that cannot generate life or even achieve orgasm.

If a human is born without a penis but his brain is wired like a man's, he should not be allowed to have a phalloplasty. You agree with this statement, yes or no?

You should. It completely fulfills your conditions here. The person was never born with a penis so it was never there in the first place. So you should have no problem with saying this person should just live with like, hormone blockers and be done with it.

But I get the feeling you won't say that. Because you know that wouldn't be right.

Then again, you focus on Testosterone gel as proof that your position is correct. Ignoring top surgery. You know, the beginning of the very post you're arguing on. Why not argue against that? Especially since hormones CANNOT change how the brain of an adult works. It can cause different reactions but the wiring, the structure remains the same. The dysphoria is still there and it will STILL cause mental issues. Issues that can be solved by gender transitioning. And the problems with such a process can be solved without throwing it out.

This is why Laddit said you weren't reading what he said. This shit is a huge part of his point. A point you choose to engage with and failed to actually counter because you didn't pay attention to SPECIFIC wording.

Strike 3. You weren't worth the time.

Sunder. You looked at someone who agreed that what happened was terrible but wanted nuance and then proceed to act as if you knew them any better than they knew themselves. You, some rando who has never talked with Laddit before. Isn't this the EXACT thing your whole 'they love control and hate truth' tag is supposed to be railing against? Against people who act like they know better than the people living their lives? Or are all those leftists who called you a dumb hick actually right to say they should take over your country without your input?

You were the one who didn't engage with what was actually said. You didn't even question the foundation of what was said either. You made an assumption (that hormones can treat gender dysphoria alone), ignored the part that directly countered you (that the brain is hard-wired, you can't change that part) and charged ahead.

Could hormone treatment cure some cases of gender dysphoria? Maybe.

Should we try horomone therapy before surgery? From my perspective, sure.

Is society causing an incentive through social factors like the rising acceptance of trans people, treating the identity with reverence and trying to break down the category to include god damn fashion? Almost certainly.

But should we ban the act altogether, even though the data says that at worst, the surgeries have a 97% success rate? Meaning that for the VAST majority of cases, this was the right call? Should the government really decide what is best for its citizens?