I think it's really pathetic when women's criticism of the 4B movement is "it excludes mothers, and no type of feminism should exclude mothers." What the fuck have mothers overall done in favour of feminism? They birth the literal rapist gender feminists are supposedly fighting against, right? And, if not, then they force you, as a woman, to be born in a world where you're inferior and even make your life more miserable by pushing gender norms into you. Actually, even if they aren't boymoms, they probably would have been okay with the baby being a boy, which leads us back to them being okay with birthing the rapist gender.
They consciously choose to procreate with shit men because of "their wish to be a mother" and force their daughters to live with abusive and rapist men. They develop incestuous relationships with their sons and pretend they're their actual husbands after being yelled, beaten or coerced by the real husband. Yeah if you're a woman she may tell you surface-level stuff like "never quit your job for a man!1!1!" which is common sense if you're not retarded like most of them are, but at the same time she will pressure for grandkids, wanting to see you as enslaved to a man as she is.
God forbid she has children of both genders, because she will coddle the male and have an obsession with him growing big and strong, in order to replace her real husband, while keeping her daughter small and frail and demand her to stay obedient to her father at all times, since she wants her to be as miserable and dick-worshipping as she is. I swear the majority of our problems could be fixed if they could at least be convinced to stop birthing moids, but of course not because "I'll raise him right not like those other mothers who must obviously have done everything wrong!!". Then they do the opposite and coddle him.
When he starts acting out, they will say "he lacks a male role model 😢" and blame everything on the absent or abusive father. Like it would have turned out an empathetic human being if it had had another father. But it is just moid nature: he was doomed to be like that from the start and, most of the time, these mothers didn't even try to avoid this outcome. They try the easy shit which is bringing him over to the International Woman's Day protests and when he obviously doesn't want to go, it seems they entirely give up on everything they promised when they found out his gender via the ultrasound and shrug, and after that point say nothing to all his misogynistic comments at the dinner table, because "he's a man and he's just repeating what his father says". They know standing up to him would be like standing up to their husband's views so they stay quiet.
I don't even consider myself a feminist anyway so this discourse doesn't concern me, but it really bugs me that a feminist movement is not allowed to exclude mothers when they're the literal creators of evil. I really don't get it, is it because they're planning to birth a moid later or what?
